Sunday, 8/13/17, Public Square

‘Unite The Right’ is what all those hundreds of white people bearing torches and chanting about the value of white lives called it when they moved beyond decency in Charlottesville yesterday.

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  1. David Duke, in Charlottesville yesterday —

    “This represents a turning point for the people of this country. We are determined to take our country back. We are going to fulfill the promises of Donald Trump. That’s what we believed in. That’s why we voted for Donald Trump, because he said he’s going to take our country back.”

  2. Here is what Trump said at his press conference — word for word. He is a childish, stupid, uncaring, egotistical maniac. People were murdered today by White Supremacist radicals full of hate. He took time to pimp the economy and unemployment figures. He couldn’t find time to be sympathetic to the families of those who died or the residents of Charlottsville…

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    3:33pm Eastern

    Small press conference but a very important one, and it was scheduled to talk about the great things that we’re doing with the Secretary on the Veterans Administration, and we will talk about that, very much so, in a while, but I thought I should put out a comment as to what’s going on in Charlottesville, so, again I want to thank everybody for being here. In paticular, I want to thank our incredible veterans, thank you fellas, let me shake your hand.

    (((leaves podium, shakes hands with seven veterans, six white men and one black woman)))

    Great people, they’re great people. But we’re closely following the terrible events unfolding in Charlottesville, Virginia. We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides, on many sides. It’s been going on for a long time in our country. Not Donald Trump, not Barack Obama, it’s been going on for a long, long time.

    It has no place in America. What is vital now is a swift restoration of law and order, and the protection of innocent lives. No citizen should ever fear for their safety and security in our society, and no child should ever be afraid to go outside and play, or be with their parents, and have a good time.

    I just got off the phone with the Governor of Virginia, Terry McCauliffe, and we agreed that the hate and the division must stop, and must stop right now. We have to come together as Americans with love for our nation, and true affection, and really, I say this so strongly, true affection … for each other.

    Our country is doing very well in so many ways, we have record, just absolute record employment. We have unemployment the lowest it’s been in 17 years. We have companies pouring into our country, Foxconn and car companies and so many others, they’re coming back to our country. We’re renegotiating trade deals to make them great for our country, great for the American worker.

    We have so many incredible things happening in our country, so when I watch Charlottesville, to me it’s very very … sad. I want to salute the great work of the state and local police in Virginia, incredible people, law enforcement, incredible people, and also the National Guard, they’ve really been working smart, working hard, they’ve been doing a terrific job.

    Federal authorities are also providing tremendous support to the governor, he thanked me for that, and we are here to provide whatever other assistance is needed, we are ready willing and able. Above all else, we must remember this truth: No matter our color, creed, religion or political party, we are all Americans first.

    We love our country, we love our God, we love our flag, we’re proud of our country, we’re proud of who we are. So we want to get this situation straightened out in Charlottesville, and we want to study it. And we want to see what we’re doing wrong as a country, where things like this can happen.

    My administration is restoring the sacred bonds of loyalty between this nation and its citizens, but our citizens must also restore the bonds of trust and loyalty between one another. We most love each other, respect each other and cherish our history, and our future, together.

    So important. We have to respect each other. Ideally, we have to love each other. And now, to the Veterans Administration …

    • Trump also told the Governor of Guam that he was going to be famous and tourism would go up ten fold – right after Trump’s rhetoric to North Korea got Guam named as the target for the North Korean nut job’s missile.

      Who the hell wants to go visit Guam if a missile is going to hit the damn place?

      Seriously – Trump the only thing Trump talks about is MONEY????

      There is a Bible Verse that applies to Trump and his fellow Trumpublican Kristians – what does it profit a man to gain the whole world but lose his own soul?

      JEEZUS Almighty…….FAKE Christians have Trump convinced that he is their Messiah….

    • Let’s not forget – the KKK – White Supremacists – aka Alt Right was created by White Christians after the South lost the Civil War.

      The KKK members used to be Democrats – then turned Republicans when Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act.

      No matter what political label the KKK has used – they have ALWAYS been White Christians.

      Why didn’t Trump use the words White Christian Terrorists?

      Take a deep look into Trump’s Evangelical Kristian base – what do you see? These are the preachers and televangelists that knowingly spread the Birtherism Lie about their President Obama. That is malicious and God cannot bless any professing Christian that knowingly spreads malicious lies – especially about a fellow Christian like their President Obama.

      I listened to Televangelist Pat Robertson one day on his t.v. show actually say that his President Obama was a Muslim and could NEVER change that fact because – now read very carefully – Obama’s father was a Muslim and in the Muslim culture – the father passes down their Muslim heritage to their sons.

      WTH……..

      So – bottom line to Pat Robertson – I guess the Bible is wrong when it says that any person can become a Christian if they believe in Jesus and accepts him as their personal savior?

      Maybe that part of the Bible is just for the ‘white people’ that look like Pat Robertson and his fellow Evangelicals?

      I know I sound like a broken record when I talk about Trump Evangelical Kristians – and some people apparently don’t like it – but I’ve been in that religion and got the hell out. When I got out was in late 1970’s – and they were nuts back then.

      That was before these same Evangelicals got into politics and power – they are now totally NUTS and dangerous – IMHO

      There is a reason why so many Evangelicals preach their Us vs Them crappola – it brings in a lot of tax free money. And preachers and televangelists love the MONEY.

  3. http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/white-house-trump%e2%80%99s-condemnation-includes-%e2%80%98white-supremacists-kkk-neo-nazi-and-all-extremist-groups%e2%80%99/ar-AApZ8Cp?li=BBnb7Kz

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    Take special note – Mike Pompeo thinks Trump’s statement was great. I’m glad to hear there are other Republicans who are speaking out and confronting Trump for not naming the White Supremacists.

    Hell – even Mooch Scarammuci came out against Trump’s statement – now if even the Mooch think Trump should call out the White Supremacists – then why is this so difficult for Trump to say?

    OH – maybe because if Trump calls White Supremacists domestic terrorists – that would certainly implode his voting base – do you think??

  4. https://go.berniesanders.com/page/s/bernie-sanders-mfa?source=em170809-full

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    This is link from Bernie Sanders FB page with a chance to sign on as a citizen co-sponsor for his Medicare For All proposal that he plans to bring to the Senate soon.

  5. “Squeezed out by Silicon Valley, the far right is creating its own corporate world” … The L.A. Times had a prescient story ahead of the rally, that’s now at the top of today’s front page, “Web haven for far right: Ostracized by Silicon Valley, neo-Nazis and others create their own corporate space,” by Matt Pearce:

    “For weeks, neo-Nazis, white nationalists and other far-right figures [organized for the] ‘Unite the Right’ demonstration in Charlottesville … expected to be one of the largest rallies of its kind in at least a decade.”

    “But days before the rally, … Airbnb started suspending the accounts of rally attendees who had rented houses in the area. … The … company requires customers to ‘accept people regardless of their race, religion, national origin, ethnicity,’ among other things — a deal breaker for white nationalists, who have been banned by other popular companies for similar reasons. It was a blow for the organizers.”

    “This wasn’t the first time the far-right had to find someone willing to provide services for its members. Increasingly, the group’s solution is to provide its own.Over the last two years, a crop of start-ups has begun offering social media platforms and financial services catering to right-wing Internet users.”

    http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-alt-right-money-20170811-story.html?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_axiosam&stream=top-stories

    • Is it irony or hypocrisy that the same White Supremacists screaming about free speech are the same folks who demonized and continue to demonize – that football player for kneeling during the national anthem?

      Even Ultra Conservative Supreme Court Judge Antonin Scalia ruled that an American had the constitutional right to burn the American Flag.

      BTW – I have found many Conservatives do not know this fact . Of course, then these same CONS accuse me of being Fake news.

  6. http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/charlottesville-rally-organizer-flees-news-conference/ar-AAq1Ytw

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    Read this article – this dude claims to not be a white nationalist but he organized the Charlotttesville VA pro white supremacy rally?

    What planet is this dude living on?

    • Take special note of this dude saying he is concerned about the immigration in our country causing a white ethnic cleansing.

      But yet this dude has not looked up and realized that immigration – legal and illegal – are both being exploited by CORPORATIONS – which are majority owned by Wealthy White Males?

  7. How long will it take Trump to say those words – White Supremacist Terrorists?

    Some people want Trump impeached. I don’t -just let the dude sit there in the White House and effectively ‘box him in’ with his hands tied – by use of the Congressional rules – and then point to Trump and just laugh for getting NOTHING done.

    Trump brags he has accomplished so much more than all the presidents combined – well, let’s just let Trump sit there and show us what he can do – just like his infamous passing his Obamacare Repeal and Replace efforts.

    That went nowhere…

  8. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/08/will-the-church-reckon-with-charlottesville/536718/

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    Interesting reading – how will the Christian Churches respond to the violence in CharlottesvilleVA?

    I found this article when I Googled Franklin Graham’s response to Charlottesville – and in this article, it mentions Franklin’s vague response (much like Trump’s – whereas he did not mention white supremacists) .

    Where are these Trump White Evangelical Christian Preachers and televangelists – is their silence speaking volumes?

  9. It’s been said Trump watches t.v. incessantly – well, certain ‘right’ channels – but if the live videos I’ve seen on different channels are a window into the minds of Americans trying to understand what happened at Charlottesville VA this weekend – perhaps all those red Trump MAGA hats and David Duke – infamous KKK leader – invoking Trump’s name and bragging that his group is fulfilling Trump’s promises of taking the country back.

    Well – today – finally Trump said White Supremacists, KKK and Neo Nazis were repugnant hate groups.

    But ..did you notice he did NOT say Alt Right or White Nationalists?

    As I understand it – Bannon prefers the name Alt Right or White Nationalist – he would never be caught dead in a pointed hat – and an old costume.

    Their new and improved costume must be black shirts and khaki pants?

    Oh – and that college-prep boy hair cut – I guess that is to blend in with their Corporate Cousins – who are the real reason behind all this ‘coloring of Americans’ that has gone on for years.

    I wonder if the White Nationalists can figure that out – Corporations are the real ‘globalization of America’ – not just rag tag towel-headed Muslims in the deserts halfway across the world.

    What’s rather humorous is the fact that this Charlottesville White Supremacist Rally was due to some Confederate monument of Robert E. Lee that was scheduled to be moved to another park within the city.

    If TRUMP and his supporters only value ‘winners’ – then why are these folks going to war over monuments of the LOSERS of the Civil War?

    Why isn’t Trump demonizing all Confederate Soldiers as LOSERS – like Trump has called so many people ‘losers’ ??

    Just a thought…

  10. http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-retweets-cartoon-appearing-to-show-train-hitting-cnn-reporter/ar-AAq8OBE?li=BBnb7Kz

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    There are no words to describe how I feel about Trump and his complete lack of understanding (?) or even the comprehension of his lack of awareness when he retweets crappola like this.

    For the love of GOD – retweets a cartoon showing a train running over a person – when that White Nationalist (KKK) guy allegedly (hell, it was all caught on video) rammed his car into the crowds of anti-racist protesters?

    If Trump is such a damn fine God-fearing Christian like his Evangelical Kristian supporters want me to believe – then I am the Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy and Santa Claus all rolled up into one.

  11. http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/us-government-demands-details-on-all-visitors-to-anti-trump-protest-website/ar-AAq7rGi?li=BBnbfcL

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    Excuse me, but aren’t these Trumpublicans the same people that got their tight-white panties in a twist over their President Obama allegedly using the government to listen on all American’s phone calls and to spy on everybody?

    But -yet – when their boy Trump goes after people for just visiting a website that coordinated protests to Trump’s Inauguration – that is approved by Jesus himself?

    Nothing is more evil than a bunch of self-righteous ‘religious’ people who think their God has given them the right to do whatever they want to do.

    Take note that I called them ‘religious’ – not Christians.

  12. Serious question – these White Nationalists – aka KKK – aka Neo Nazis – aka Alt Right are now trying to say the alleged driver of that car that plowed into the crowd of protesters at Charlottesville VA and killed one and injured a lot more is not one of their members.

    How is this any different than when Dr. George Tiller was murdered in cold blood in his own church and the Pro Life Groups tried to say that the convicted murderer – Roeder (I think?) – was not one of their members?

    And while we’re talking about this issue – what about the hate-filled rhetoric that has been non stop 24/7 for the entire Obama 8 years in the White House which we’ve seen Talk Radio, Fox News, Breitbart and Alex Jones’ inforwars website consistently keep beating the drums of HATE?

    Are these folks also guilty of providing a platform – a safe haven – for those people willing to actually carry out killing people all for their political and/or religious cause?

    When is Enough going to be Enough?

  13. http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/theories-abound-over-meaning-of-trump%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%98many-sides%e2%80%99-remark/ar-AAq8yca?li=BBnb7Kz
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    Here we go- yet again. Right Wingers are now blaming the Left for creating Charlottesville.

    Wow – is this the 2.0 version of Alex Jones’ bizarre rant and conspiracy theory that Sandy Hook mass killing of school kids and teachers was just a hoax?

    I know people can be stupid – but God, give it a rest.

  14. Trump dertainly stepped into the pile of B.S. today at his press conference – didn’t he?

    WOW – and Trump compares himself as the most ‘presidential’ president second only to Abraham Lincoln (remember that comment Trump made a few weeks back?)

    I was expecting the ghost of Lincoln to reach down from the Heavens and smack Trump’s bloviated head…

    Trump also threw in if George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were next to have their statues brought down because both were slave owners.

    Earth to Trump and all Trumpublicans – Washington and Jefferson NEVER declared war on their own country – Robert E. Lee and his fellow Confederates did exactly that.

    THAT is the difference -…..

    • He did step in it. I shook for a while after that spectacle. I didn’t really know he could go lower than he had already gone.

      Richard Crowson, the cartoonist for the local paper, said on Facebook: “He defended Nazis. He equated Washington with a Confederate general. And then as a sort of epilogue, he bragged about the size of his winery in Charlottesville. The most unbelievable thing about his performance is that it is actually believable.”

      Do you think it’s even remotely possible that watching and listening to this disgusting, hateful, stupid man named Trump could change hearts, could be the catalyst for real true improvement in our racial divides in our country?

      • Well – God does work in mysterious ways – heavy sarcasm

        Like I’ve said before – not a single Evangelical Kristian Trumpublican will ever convince that God chose Trump to save our country.

        OH HELL NO…….My God is not that damn stupid

      • I did find it rather telling that Trump really snapped early on during questions when John McCain’s name was mentioned.

        That was when Trump’s eyes got even darker, colder and glaring when he flippantlyh said – the John McCain that voted no on the health care bill. We could have gotten great health care if he had not changed his mind at the last minute and voted no.

        Where in the hell was Trump when John McCain gave that speech on the Senate Floor when he arrived back from Arizona to cast his vote to bring the health care bill to the floor for debate. McCain also said, in the same speech, that he believed they should bring the GOP bill to the floor for debate – so that BOTH sides could debate it – like things USED to be done.

        And then McCain said explicitly that he would vote NO on the GOP health care bill as it was at that time.

        Isn’t that clearly explained that McCain voted YES to bring it to the floor to vote on and he would vote NO for the same health care bill?

        JEEZUS Almighty… Trump has that same delirious syndrome all Trumpublicans have – selective hearing, selective memory and perhaps one working brain cell?

      • What I found totally hilarious was when Trump asked for one last question about infrastructure – to which a reporter promptly asked him – how do you think you can pass an infrastructure bill when you couldn’t pass your health care bill.

        WOW – slow B-U-R-N…….I thought I would fall off my chair from laughing so hard.

        Trump does not get it – Trump does not know how the process works – Trump does not CARE how the process works and Trump obviously thinks the President can just order the Congress to do as he says.

        OH HELL NO…..why not ask George Washington or Thomas Jefferson how they felt about America being ruled by a damn KING

  15. (From the link): Those who inspired the marchers carried out the biggest pogrom [organized massacre of a particular ethnic group] in modern German history, destroying 267 synagogues, vandalizing Jewish businesses, attacking Jews in their homes, and killing hundreds, all in a single night in November 1938.

    They demonized and physically attacked political opponents, homosexuals, Roma and Sinti, the handicapped, and any others they considered outside the boundaries of the German racial community.

    They murdered more than 70,000 men, women, and children—German citizens!—who had been diagnosed with mental and physical disabilities in just two years between 1939 and 1941.

    They started the most destructive war in the history of the world, causing the deaths of tens of millions of people, mostly innocent civilians.

    They murdered more than 33,000 Jews in just two days at Babi Yar, outside Kiev, Ukraine in 1941.

    They shot one million unarmed Jewish civilians—men, women, and children—across Eastern Europe in just the last six months of 1941.

    They murdered close to three million Jews in the gas chambers of Chelmno, Treblinka, Sobibor, Belzec, Majdanek, and Auschwitz.

    They enslaved millions of people—Jews and non-Jews—from across Europe to work for their war of conquest.

    They fought to destroy the most basic values that America has claimed to stand for over more than two centuries: the fundamental dignity and equality of all people.

    The world is a complicated place. There are rarely simple, black and white answers to the problems that confront us. But sometimes, every once in a while, there are. And this is one such moment. If the President of the United States cannot condemn individuals who march under the flag of Adolf Hitler and Nazi Germany, how can he possibly claim to represent America, its values, and all of its citizens? In perhaps the easiest test of his young presidency, Donald Trump has failed, and failed miserably.

    http://www.rawstory.com/2017/08/a-professor-of-german-history-explains-the-true-horror-of-trumps-response-to-charlottesville/

  16. http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/stonewall-jackson-kin-take-down-confederate-monuments/ar-AAqfu23?li=BBnb7Kz

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    Even the descendants of Stonewall Jackson say these Confederate Monuments should be taken down.

    I wonder when Trump will spew nasty tweets about these Jackson family members?

    BTW – isn’t Stonewall Jackson the Confederate General that Trump fancies himself to be?

    STonewall Jackson – wasn’t he also the US President that ordered the Native Indians to march halfway across the country to their ‘appointed place – aka Indian Reservation’?

    Many Indians – aka human beings – died on that Trail of Tears. And why? Because some damn Confederate General happened to get into the powerful White House and decided that only White People were worthy of having black servants but those Native Indians had to go…

    America has such a violent history when it comes to human rights. Not all our American History is bad – but let’s acknowledge the bad parts and learn from history.

    Bottom line to Trump – he always talks about how he is the winner and his opponents are losers. And those losers don’t deserve anything.

    Confederates LOST the Civil War – and should be treated like Trump would treat any other losers.

  17. Most of these monuments were not erected right after the Civil War. In fact, all the way to 1890 there were very few statues or monuments dedicated to Confederate leaders. Most of them were built much later. And since I’m not an academic, I feel comfortable squeezing this history into a very short, oversimplified summary:

    1861-1865: Civil War.

    1865-1875: Reconstruction Era.

    1875-1895: Reconstruction Era ends. Blacks are steadily disenfranchised, allowing Southern whites to enact Jim Crow laws. In 1896, Jim Crow is cemented into place when the Supreme Court rules it constitutional.

    1895-1915: With blacks disenfranchised and Jim Crow laws safely in place, Southern whites begin a campaign of terror against blacks. Lynchings skyrocket, the KKK becomes resurgent, and whites begin building Confederate statues and monuments in large numbers.

    1915-1955: Jim Crow reigns safely throughout the South.

    1955-1970: The civil rights era starts after the Supreme Court rules in Brown v. Board of Education that Jim Crow laws are unconstitutional. Southern whites mount massive and violent resistance, and start putting up Confederate monuments again.

    Yes, these monuments were put up to honor Confederate leaders. But the timing of the monument building makes it pretty clear what the real motivation was: to physically symbolize white terror against blacks. They were mostly built during times when Southern whites were engaged in vicious campaigns of subjugation against blacks, and during those campaigns the message sent by a statue of Robert E. Lee in front of a courthouse was loud and clear.

    http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/08/the-real-story-of-all-those-confederate-statues/