Friday, 2/10/17, Public Square



by | February 9, 2017 · 8:19 pm

10 responses to “Friday, 2/10/17, Public Square

    • And several men followed her in reading from the same letter from Coretta Scott King and they were NOT warned -or censored or given an explanation.

      Republicans are too busy doing their cock-strutting dance to look up and see there is a real grassroots movement building – and these people have REAL pitchforks.

      Have you all read about those Republicans being booed at their town halls?

      Hmmmm…wasn’t it in 2009 when those Town Halls were filled with Republicans who were booing their elected officials. And the Koch Brothers created the Tea Party – and thought they were so clever?

      I wonder if the Koch Brothers regret their choice they made 8 years ago?

  1. “When a Facebook friend told him, ‘We suffered for 8 years. Now it’s your turn.’ He wrote a brilliant response asking how exactly his friend, a Trump supporter, had suffered under Obama.
    His reply:
    ‘I am surprised you would wish suffering upon me. That of course is your right, I suppose. I do not wish harm on anyone. Your statement seems to continue an ‘US v THEM’ mentality. The election is over. It is important to get past campaigning and campaign rhetoric and get down to what is uniting not dividing and what is best for ALL Americans.
    There will never be a President who does everything to everyone’s liking. There are things President Obama (and President Clinton) did that I do not like and conversely there are things I can point to that the Presidents Bush did that I agree with. So I am not 100% in lock step with the outgoing President but have supported him and the overall job he did.
    And, if you recall, during the Presidential Campaign back in 2008 the campaign was halted because of the “historic crisis in our financial system.” Wall Street bailout negotiations intervened in the election process. The very sobering reality was that there likely could be a Depression and the world financial markets could collapse. The United States was losing 800,000 jobs a month and was poised to lose at least 10 million jobs the first year once the new President took office. We were in an economic freefall. So let us recall that ALL of America was suffering terribly at the beginning of Obama’s Presidency.
    But I wanted to look back over the last 8 years and ask you a few questions. Since much of the rhetoric before Obama was elected was that he would impose Sharia Law, Take Away Your Guns, Create Death Panels, Destroy the Economy, Impose Socialism and, since you will agree that NONE of this came to pass,
    I was wondering:
    Why have you suffered so?
    So let me ask:
    Gays and Lesbians can now marry and enjoy the benefits they had been deprived of. Has this caused your suffering?
    When Obama took office, the Dow was 6,626. Now it is over 20 thousand. Has this caused your suffering?
    We had 82 straight months of private sector job growth – the longest streak in the history of the United States. Has this caused your suffering?
    Especially considering where the economy was when he took over, an amazing 11.3 million new jobs were created under President Obama (far more than President Bush). Has this caused your suffering?
    Obama took Unemployment from 10% down to 4.7%. Has this caused your suffering?
    Homelessness among US Veterans dropped by half. Has this caused your suffering?
    Obama shut down the US secret overseas prisons. Has this caused your suffering?
    President Obama created a policy for the families of fallen soldiers to have their travel paid for to be there when remains are flown home. Has this caused your suffering?
    We landed a rover on Mars. Has this caused your suffering?
    He passed the Matthew Shepard Hate Crimes Prevention Act. Has this caused your suffering?
    Uninsured adults has decreased to below 10%: 90% of adults are insured – an increase of 20 Million Adults. Has this caused your suffering?
    People are now covered for pre-existing conditions. Has this caused your suffering?
    Insurance Premiums increased an average of $4,677 from 2002-2008, an increase of 58% under Bush. The growth of these
    insurance premiums has gone up $4,145 – a slower rate of increase. Has this caused your suffering?
    Obama added Billions of dollars to mental health care for our Veterans. Has this caused your suffering?
    Consumer confidence has went from 37.7 to 98.1 during Obama’s tenure. Has this caused your suffering?
    He passed the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act. Has this caused your suffering?
    His bi-annual Nuclear Summit convinced 16 countries to give up and destroy all their loose nuclear material so it could not be stolen. Has this caused your suffering?
    He saved the US Auto industry. American cars sold at the beginning of his term were 10.4M and upon his exit 17.5M. Has this caused your suffering?
    The deficit as a percentage of the GDP has gone from 9.8% to 3.2%. Has this caused your suffering?
    The deficit itself was cut by $800 Billion Dollars. Has this caused your suffering?
    Obama preserved the middle class tax cuts. Has this caused your suffering?
    Obama banned solitary confinement for juveniles in federal prisons. Has this caused your suffering?
    He signed Credit Card reform so that rates could not be raised without you being notified. Has this caused your suffering?
    He outlawed Government contractors from discriminating against LGBT persons. Has this caused your suffering?
    He doubled Pell Grants. Has this caused your suffering?
    Abortion is down. Has this caused your suffering?
    Violent crime is down. Has this caused your suffering?
    He overturned the scientific ban on stem cell research. Has this caused your suffering?
    He protected Net Neutrality. Has this caused your suffering?
    Obamacare has extended the life of the Medicare insurance trust fund (will be solvent until 2030). Has this caused your suffering?
    President Obama repealed Don’t Ask Don’t Tell. Has this caused your suffering?
    He banned torture. Has this caused your suffering?
    He negotiated with Syria to give up its chemical weapons and they were destroyed. Has this caused your suffering?
    Solar and Wind Power are at an all time high. Has this caused your suffering?
    High School Graduation rates hit 83% – an all time high. Has this caused your suffering?
    Corporate profits are up by 144%. Has this caused your suffering?
    He normalized relations with Cuba. Has this caused your suffering?
    Reliance on foreign oil is at a 40 year low. Has this caused your suffering?
    US Exports are up 28%. Has this caused your suffering?
    He appointed the most diverse cabinet ever. Has this caused your suffering?
    He reduced the number of troops in both Iraq and Afghanistan. Has this caused your suffering?
    Yes, he killed Osama Bin Laden and retrieved all the documents in his possession for analysis. Perhaps THIS caused your suffering?
    From an objective standpoint it would appear that the last 8 years have seen some great progress and we were saved from a financial collapse. Things are not perfect. Things can always be better. We are on much better footing now than we were in 2008.
    I look forward to understanding what caused you to suffer so much under Obama these last 8 years.’

  2. Thunderchild

    I hope Bannon’s puppet reads the replies to his tweets. Though I doubt he would see the humor in them that I do.
    His latest “BLAH! I WILL SEE YOU IN COURT! BLAH” got some gems!
    “Tennis court?”
    Also fun is that some replies work to talk to him in the sort of way he understands…

    “SAD! Doesn’t know when beat! Losers never know they’re losers. ESPECIALLY BIG LEAGUE LOSERS!”
    His supporters seem to mostly keep their heads down. When they do speak up, they get chopped to bits.
    Only example I found of a supporting replay:
    “I support you but could you try to be a little less embarrassing?”
    He and his have been rapped on the nose twice now. COUNT on the toddler in chief to go for the hat trick. And then when he loses again and has no recourse left? Oh the wails of anger we will see.

  3. Rick Liebst

    Well my ban is holding, since most of what I put on Facebook is political and against Trump. Relatives have not decided to once again let me post on their page. Even if it is a family matter.

  4. Thunderchild

    Why would you WANT to talk to a little hands supporter? Even if they are family?
    I have a Republican aunt, my mom’s sister. I have not spoken to her since 1999 and have no desire to. Tell the truth I never even liked her or her husband or their kid since I was little. Mom still tries to keep in contact with her little sister. But even she and her other sister no longer really want to. I mean my mom’s sister seriously thinks that diaper baby is sent by GOD!
    I got a cousin from my mom’s deceased sister. I have not seen her since I was 13. Mom’s diplomacy and attempt to get along did not pass to me. Shortly after the election, mom kept her usual contact with her niece. My cousin turned talk to politics FIVE times, while my mom asked her each time to stop and talk about something else. anything else. Nope! Leader little hands is the best thing EVER and anyone who disagrees is a traitor! The conversation became heated, my mom finally hung up. She does not plan to reach out again and that is a GOOD thing. My cousin Karen was an empty vacuous bitch 30 odd years ago and she still is now.
    In short? You lose a friend or family that supported that…thing? Is their loss and your gain. You can’t reason with them. Why even try?
    Had to say that. Now what I came to post.
    Within minutes of the ascent of the manchild came removal of all references to global warming on the white house website. Gone almost immediately also was any support for the LGBTQ community. About a week later comes removal of all information on the FDA website as to puppy mills.
    That’s right, the Government is no longer responsible for helping you know about people who abuse animals for profit. Oh you can file a Freedom of Information request. But since they no longer consider it a Government func tion, yeah good luck with that.
    And that is just where deregulation BEGINS, with the abuse of animals.
    This…..thing….in the White House is evil. His supporters are evil, or criminally stupid. If you have any hope for them at all, simply let them know that they are not rational now and let them know you are open to talk again when they come to their senses.

    • Rick Liebst

      I do not plan on rubbing it in their face when they finally have that oh crap moment. But will be saying I did tell you, now you are seeing what I meant. They are family and few people should mean as much to someone.

      • One does not get to choose their family. But I agree – they are family.

        With that said – there is also no law stating one has to be in contact with any family member.

        So – my family members who are Trump supporters – either they can respect my wishes to not talk about politics – or they choose that we don’t keep in contact.

        It’s all up to them.

        I learned a long time ago that it is useless to bang your head against the brick wall.

        At some time down the road, I suspect a lot of Trump supporters will be these ones that will claim they “NEVER” voted for Trump. That is the moment when I will remind my family members – or yes you did.