Wednesday, 9/7/16, Public Square



by | September 7, 2016 · 11:14 am

9 responses to “Wednesday, 9/7/16, Public Square

  1. indypendent

    What is sadder than Trump being the GOP candidate for president is the fact there are a lot of Americans applauding and ready to vote for Trump.

    It’s like watching a “Jerry Spiringer Show’ on steroids.

    But the truth is – Jerry Springer does not pretend his shows are nothing more than reality t.v. enterainment…

    Just the thought of Trump being the president should send chills down anybody’s spine.

    • Of late I am runnning into more people that are waking up about trump. All because of his mouth, by now you would think no one would be able to understand anything he says. With that foot he keep putting in his mouth!

  2. indypendent


    Rosie the Riverter is such an iconic character. But I wonder, do the younger generations even know how so many women went into the workforce during WWII – so that the men could go off to war?

    I also wonder how many Americans (younger or not) know about the sacrifices that Americans had to make during the War?

    When I hear Republicans encourage and applaud when Trump spews about how he is going to tell foreign leaders what to do or else – exactly what does that mean? Or else = war(s)…

    Okay – when you go threatening to start wars – are your people really prepared for what that requires?

    Not just the military going into action – our entire country will be put on a very strict daily life of shortages of food, gas and the endless potential threats of actual dropping of bombs onto our own American soil.

    Does the average American even look up from their cell phones to see what is going on?

  3. Trump along with his campaign is imploding, everyday I am meeting more of his supporters. Whom after finally actually listening to him and perhaps waking up. Could not believe they were ever supporting him.

    • indypendent

      R.D. – I hope and pray you’re correct.

      After watching that forum last night, Trump is one dangerous man. But yet I saw several people in that audience nodding their head in agreement.

      When Trump actually said that he was very good at reading body language and when he has been briefed twice for national security – Trump said that he could tell from their body language that they were upset with Obama for not doing as they recommended.

      And then Trump goes on to say he has a secret plan to rid the world of ISIS once and for all.

      Okay – wouldn’t a true Patriot want to share that secret plan – whether he wins the election or not?

      But then Trump wen ton to say how he and Putin would work together to get rid of ISIS.

      WTH……Putin is helping Assad the Syrian Dictator to stay in power. There were recent news reports of Assad dropping chlorine bombs on his own people.

      But not only that – Putin is an ally of Iran – hardly some country that wants ISIS to stop giving grief to the Americans.

      Then finally – Trump says that he wants to go into Iraq and just take their damn oil.

      Oh yeah – like Putin and Iran is going to allow that…

      Oh – but he has a secret plan……. Does anyone else remember the 2008 presidential campaign when the economic collapse was starting and John McCain dissed David Letterman’s late night show so that he could run down to Washington DC for that urgent meeting?

      Remember when John McCain said he had a sure-fire secret plan to solve the economic crisis?

      Again – why wouldn’t a true Patriot share that secret plan – even if they lost the election.

      Republicans – love to brag about what they don’t have.

      • Indy you can bet that if they are not seeing it on their own. I am quite happy to explain it to them! I refrain from taking their arm to hold them, but the temptation is there non the less.

  4. I would have included the stupid “body language” comment (as Indy did), but here is one take on Trump at the “Commander-In-Chief” forum.

    Robert Reich says —

    Of many oddities last night in Donald Trump’s handling of questions over how he’d function as commander-in-chief, during NBC’s “Commander-in-Chief Forum” last night, 4 stand out:

    1. Instead of explaining his previous comment that he knew more about the Islamic State than America’s generals, he instead disparaged those generals by saying they’d been “reduced to rubble.” Then he suggested his plan to defeat the Islamic State — long something he said was a secret — would instead be formulated with help from top generals. Then he casually indicated he might just fire most of the generals anyway.

    2. Trump returned to the old idea that America should have taken Iraq’s oil after ousting Saddam Hussein, in violation of international law. He once suggested this should have happened to provide revenue to wounded soldiers; now he argues it would have blocked the rise of the Islamic State (or ISIS, as he calls the group). He also said he had always been against the Iraq War, when in fact he’s on record in the past as supporting it.

    3. He said he’d have “different generals” heading the military. But under law, a president can’t summarily fire generals. During a debate in March, Trump was asked what he would do if the military refused to carry out his orders to commit acts of torture or target civilians. “They won’t refuse,” Trump replied. “They’re not going to refuse me. Believe me.”

    4. Trump said that Russian president Vladimir Putin has “been a leader far more than our president has been.” Hello? Putin — who has squelched dissent in Russia and taken over parts of Crimea is more of a leader than President Obama? Apparently, to Trump, “leadership” means dictatorial control.

    At a forum specifically designed to probe how Trump would function as command-in-chief, he displayed complete ignorance of his authority as commander-in-chief, as well as of democracy.

  5. “Dear Members and Alumni,

    In every presidential election since 1888, the members and Executive Board of the Harvard Republican Club have gathered to discuss, debate, and eventually endorse the standard-bearer of our party. But for the first time in 128 years, we, the oldest College Republicans chapter in the nation, will not be endorsing the Republican nominee.

    Donald Trump holds views that are antithetical to our values not only as Republicans, but as Americans. The rhetoric he espouses –from racist slander to misogynistic taunts– is not consistent with our conservative principles, and his repeated mocking of the disabled and belittling of the sacrifices made by prisoners of war, Gold Star families, and Purple Heart recipients is not only bad politics, but absurdly cruel.

    If enacted, Donald Trump’s platform would endanger our security both at home and abroad. Domestically, his protectionist trade policies and draconian immigration restrictions would enlarge our federal deficit, raise prices for consumers, and throw our economy back into recession. Trump’s global outlook, steeped in isolationism, is considerably out-of-step with the traditional Republican stance as well. The flippancy with which he is willing to abdicate the United States’ responsibility to lead is alarming. Calling for the US’ withdrawal from NATO and actively endorsing nuclear proliferation, Donald Trump’s foreign policy would wreak havoc on the established world order which has held aggressive foreign powers in check since World War II.

    Perhaps most importantly, however, Donald Trump simply does not possess the temperament and character necessary to lead the United States through an increasingly perilous world. The last week should have made obvious to all what has been obvious to most for more than a year. In response to any slight –perceived or real– Donald Trump lashes out viciously and irresponsibly. In Trump’s eyes, disagreement with his actions or his policies warrants incessant name calling and derision: stupid, lying, fat, ugly, weak, failing, idiot –and that’s just his “fellow” Republicans.

    He isn’t eschewing political correctness. He is eschewing basic human decency.

    Donald Trump, despite spending more than a year on the campaign trail, has either refused or been unable to educate himself on issues that matter most to Americans like us. He speaks only in platitudes, about greatness, success, and winning. Time and time again, Trump has demonstrated his complete lack of knowledge on critical matters, meandering from position to position over the course of the election. When confronted about these frequent reversals, Trump lies in a manner more brazen and shameless than anything politics has ever seen.

    Millions of people across the country are feeling despondent. Their hours have been cut, wages slashed, jobs even shipped overseas. But Donald Trump doesn’t have a plan to fix that. He has a plan to exploit that.

    Donald Trump is a threat to the survival of the Republic. His authoritarian tendencies and flirtations with fascism are unparalleled in the history of our democracy. He hopes to divide us by race, by class, and by religion, instilling enough fear and anxiety to propel himself to the White House. He is looking to to pit neighbor against neighbor, friend against friend, American against American. We will not stand for this vitriolic rhetoric that is poisoning our country and our children.

    President Reagan called on us to maintain this, our shining city on a hill. He called on us to maintain freedom abroad by keeping a strong presence in the world. He called on us to maintain liberty at home by upholding the democratic process and respecting our opponents. He called on us to maintain decency in our hearts by loving our neighbor.

    He would be ashamed of Donald Trump. We are too.

    This fall, we will instead focus our efforts on reclaiming the Republican Party from those who have done it considerable harm, campaigning for candidates who will uphold the conservative principles that have defined the Republican Party for generations. We will work to ensure both chambers of Congress remain in Republican hands, continuing to protect against executive overreach regardless of who wins the election this November.

    We call on our party’s elected leaders to renounce their support of Donald Trump, and urge our fellow College Republicans to join us in condemning and withholding their endorsement from this dangerous man. The conservative movement in America should not and will not go quietly into the night.

    A longtime student of American democracy, Alexis de Tocqueville once said, “America is great because she is good. If America ceases to be good, America will cease to be great.”

    De Tocqueville believed in the United States. Americans are a decent people. We work hard, protect our own, and look out for one another in times of need, regardless of the color of our skin, the God we worship, or our party registration. Donald Trump may not believe in that America, but we do. And that America will never cease to be great.

    The Harvard Republican Club”