Friday, 10/3/14, Public Square

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by | October 3, 2014 · 6:00 am

18 responses to “Friday, 10/3/14, Public Square

  1. The 6 biggest myths about Ebola, debunked

    The world is currently experiencing the worst Ebola outbreak on record. It started in Guinea in December 2013 and has since spread to four other countries in West Africa. On September 30, a patient was diagnosed in the United States for the first time. Altogether, the outbreak has infected more than 6,500 people and killed about 3,000.

    Unfortunately, as Ebola spreads, there has been a surprising amount of misinformation on the subject. Here are five common myths you might have heard about Ebola, debunked:

    http://www.vox.com/2014/10/1/6880393/ebola-virus-outbreak-disease-myths-facts-debunked-america

    Here’s more information from NPR —

    No, Seriously, How Contagious Is Ebola?
    http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2014/10/02/352983774/no-seriously-how-contagious-is-ebola?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=202402

    • What bothers me the most about this Ebola case in Texas is this:

      it’s been reported this patient told the nurse he had been in Liberia and somehow that fact never made it to the doctor?

      This morning I heard the excuse given because the online medical record system was not working properly, so the doctor did not know.

      Hey – here’s a thought – walk down the damn hall and TELL the doctor face to face.

      Or did this not even occur to anyone?

      • I read one news story where the patient himself called the CDC after he was sent home with antibiotics the first time.

        WTF…

        Maybe it’s just me and my cynicism or being naïve again – but for all the bells and whistles of our very costly health care system – just some common sense and good ol’ fashioned giving-a-damn attitude might have prevented the need for tracking and monitoring so many people now……

      • Yes! The doctors can’t know what are THE most important facts to weigh, and if the doctor has to ask the patient all over again why in the world do we need all the people leading up to the doctor entering the picture??

    • fnord – the problem with Ebola is that it is deadly. When was the last time Americans have seen mumps or measles kill a bunch of people?

      The problem with Americans is that we have been lucky to have a health care system infrastructure in place to take care of the really deadly stuff out there…

      Africa – and many other countries – do not have similar health care systems.

      I also heard a news report the other day that it is possible this Texas Ebola patient lied on his LIberian health form when he said he had not been in contact with any Ebola victim.

      Then the shocker part of this news story was this: this patient came to the U.S. because he wanted the best health care system because he knew he had just carried a victim with Ebola a few days prior to his leaving Liberia. That young woman died a few hours after he had just carried her.

      Stories like this do not help Americans understand – or to even have compassion – in times like this.

      And then we have the political side of this story – and that is when it really gets ugly.

      • When I talk about the political side of this Ebola patient in Texas – just take a good look at the picture above with all the Tea Party folks.

        Can you imagine that group not reacting in a hysterical manner with all the news we have been bombarded with since this Ebola patient in Texas has been in the news?

        I can imagine a lynch mob forming real soon…..

      • I agree the tea baggers seem to always be searching for targets for their anger and outrage. We can be assured it is ALL Obama’s fault! I’ve long thought the greatest danger to America is outraged Americans.

      • Those childhood diseases can be deadly to some but I know what you’re saying and I agree. But even with all the vaccinations available to protect children and slow the spread of infectious diseases we have some who won’t believe they’re safer than the diseases themselves. Those people endanger others.

      • Childhood vaccinations have now become taboo in some circles.

        Especially within those circles that demonize science…… and we all know who the majority of those people vote for – don’t we?

  2. Robert Reich poses a question —

    If you include World War II, the Korean War, the Cold War with the Soviet Union, the Vietnam War, and the “War on Terror” that began in 2001 and continues to this day, the United States has been at war for 61 of the last 73 years. For most of the last thirty of them we’ve relied on an “all volunteer” army, which is “volunteer” only in the sense that young people have taken these jobs because they were among the best they could get. As we move into another phase of the war on terror, isn’t it time we reinstituted national service? Two years in the armed service or in service to America in some other capacity, required of every young American. It would remind all young people of their obligations to our society, and remind many upper-income Americans of the personal costs and risks of foreign policy. What do you think?

    • I wonder if those who are richest would find ways out? I also wonder what would be considered ‘service’? I need to think about this question before I can answer.

      • As we witnessed during the Vietnam days – those with money and power (parents or grandparents) can always find a way around the mandate of military service.

        Let’s not forget the many CONservative Republicans who push for every war but yet NEVER served in the military themselves.

        One overpaid, under-talented radio shock jock dodged the Vietnam draft because of a pineal cyst – IIRC.

        Oh – and the Darth Vader of Iraq War himself (Dickie) never served.

        These are the folks who are the most dangerous – IMHO

  3. A reminder that women do not vote as a bloc.
    http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/2014/10/greg-abbott-holds-to-single-digit-lead-over-wendy-davis-in-texas-governors-race.html/
    wherein is revealed that Abbott holds a 2 point lead over Davis among likely women voters.
    I think it important to keep this fact in mind when discussing the potential for a candidate to win a certain election, especially when smug assumptions are made concerning the votes women will/not give based upon said candidate’s position on issues important to women. I’ve seen way too much wishful thinking rather than realistic analysis in both the Texas governor’s race and the race in Kentucky for the U.S. Senate this year, which disgusts me.

    • I’ve seen and heard waaaaay too much of females like Sarah Palin and Michele Bachmann to be deluded into thinking all women vote in their own best interests. Women are passionate about what they believe and are convinced of — that certainly includes those women who are deeply religious and convinced the Bible says this and that and this…

  4. Well. The potential republican candidates for the 2016 presidential election could become even more ludicrous interesting.

    Lindsey Graham weighing 2016 White House bid
    http://www.thestate.com/2014/10/03/3721448_lindsey-graham-weighing-2016-white.html?rh=1

  5. It was three states in three years. It was not a mistake. It was deliberate.

    (from the link): As for AFP itself, there’s an irony here. ACORN was hounded out of existence thanks largely to sloppy procedures in its voter registration drives, which let some employees turn in registration forms that had fraudulent information. AFP and its allies seized on those mistakes to allege massive voter fraud, with essentially no evidence to support the charge.

    Even assuming Americans for Prosperity is guilty only of honest mistakes, it may have a similar sloppiness problem to ACORN.

    Agreed. If we were talking about a typo on a form in one state, it wouldn’t be worth talking about. But there’s arguably a pattern emerging with this conservative group and the claims it makes to voters.

    AFP not getting better with practice
    http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/afp-not-getting-better-practice

    • To me, deliberate actions which are prima facie fraudulent. AFP will, of course, use ACORN as an example for why it should not be considered as committing fraud.