Saturday, 5/31/14, Public Square



by | May 31, 2014 · 6:00 am

21 responses to “Saturday, 5/31/14, Public Square

  1. Hate must be what republicans are about. It certainly is what we hear. If it didn’t represent them well why wouldn’t they say so? Live and let live isn’t possible for them. They’ve decided to tell women, gays, youths, minorities, and now even senior citizens how to live.

    And, it isn’t playing well with the American people!

    America Is Becoming a Bit More Liberal. That’s Pretty Unusual Six Years Into a Democratic Presidency.

  2. (from the link): Take the Affordable Care Act. With the re-election of President Obama, odds of repeal were slim-to-none. But rather than abandon the call for Obamacare repeal, conservative groups—and their allies in Congress — pushed further. Not because they thought it could happen, but because it was lucrative. As Robert Costa described for National Review at the time, “Business has boomed since the push to defund Obamacare caught on. Conservative activists are lighting up social media, donations are pouring in, and e-mail lists are growing.”

    The message from groups such as the Senate Conservatives Fund was simple: You can repeal Obamacare! All it takes is a few friendly donations. Indeed, on its donation page, Heritage Action for America—the political arm of the Heritage Foundation, a right-wing think tank—asked supporters to “Please donate now to ensure we have the resources to fight and win.”

    Every political movement has its opportunists, and there’s no doubt the Democratic Party has its share of grifters. But MSNBC doesn’t devote its commercial programming to selling gold, and failed Democrats aren’t running for president to drive their book sales. Simply put, there’s a huge market for grift on the right, and—aside from the ethics of it all—it’s a huge problem for the GOP.

    The GOP’s Grifter Problem
    Why the Republican Party attracts provocateurs, faux martyrs, and grifters in droves.

    • Is it just a coincidence that the majority of these same Conservative folks who are being scammed by the GOP grifters are also devoted Evangelinuts?

      Think about this – Evangelinuts sit in their church pews and are made to feel morally superior because they have donated their money, they have religiously watched Foxxies Hen House and/or listened to Hate Talk Radio, they have bought their overpriced deep-fried chicken sandwich to prove how much they love Jesus.

      This is the mindset of the average Evangelinut. Now – for political purposes – throw in the 11th Commandment of the GOP – Thou Shall Hate Obama.

      You betcha….wink-wink



    Read this article and then think about the topic in our graphic today…womens’ rights…

    • copied from link above:
      Despite the almost universal ratification of the Convention (second only to the Convention on the Rights of the Child), a number of countries have still not signed or ratified it. The handful of remaining countries are: USA (signed, but not ratified), Iran, Qatar, Cook Islands (a Non-member state of the United Nations), Nauru, Palau, Tonga, Somalia, and Sudan.

      To see the US on this list may seem surprising to most, and Human Rights Watch is critical of the delay in getting a ratification, noting that this treaty has been in limbo in the U.S. Senate for decades17. It was sent it to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee for a vote in 1980. The first hearing on it was 10 years later. After a vote mostly in favor for it by the Foreign Relations Committee in 1994, some conservative senators blocked a US Senate vote on it. In 2002 the Foreign Relations Committee again voted that the treaty should be ratified, but the 107th Congress ended, so it requires a vote again in favor of sending the treaty to the full Senate for ratification!

      Some opponents of the treaty have raised fears that it would undermine US law, but Amnesty International USA shows that such fears of the treaty are based on myths18.

      The US of course has a decent record when it comes to women’s rights, so this may not seem a concern immediately. However, as Amnesty International USA further argues not only would ratification for the US be straight forward (for US laws in this area are already consistent with the CEDAW treaty), but it would also help to increase their credibility when raising these issues worldwide19

      Please note – it has been Conservatives in the Senate that have blocked the ratification.

      Hmmm…..would these be the same Conservatives who spew their nonsense about how God wants Man to be the master of women?
      And from this nonsense we get their idealogy of there is no such thing as illegitimate rape – because it is always the woman’s fault. And no baby is ever conceived from rape because – according to Todd Akin – the woman’s body has a way to shut that whole thing down. Remember?

      Hmm…..USA professes to be such a morally superior country but we cannot even ratify a global consensus that women shall have rights?

      But then we’re told by these same Conservatives how the Muslims mistreat their women.



        This is a fact sheet about the above-mentioned womens’ rights convention that was submitted in 1980 (by President Jimmy Carter) for ratification. It has been in limbo since 1980……

        Please note in this article where the Reagan and Bush Administration were opposed to ratification…

        Gee….I wonder why???

        It appears this GOP War on Women was another legacy from St. Ronnie.

        What a weiner….with a little vegetable side dish of ketchup – LOL

      • While we’re talking about this global women’s rights convention not being ratified since 1980……. let’s also remember the current Violence Against Women Act that our current Conservatives Republicans have rejected….

        And then this political party has the nerve to say they are not at war against women?

        Actions speak louder than words…

  4. Asher Bob White

    Thanks for the replies to my post yesterday.

    • How is the weather down in Florida? It is muggy here……and I keep telling my kids – this is only May….wait until the summer months really hit..

      • Bob – serious question..

        Do you think the Evangelinuts will get fed up with the Establishment Republicans and eventually break away and form their own political party?

        These folks seem to believe they are in the majority (which, I don’t believe that) – so will their arrogance get the best of them and then their ignorance will send them over the political cliff into a party that has virtually NO chance of winning anything – but maybe city dog catcher?

      • I’m not Bob and I hope he will also answer with his opinion because I’ve wondered the same thing and it will be interesting to hear what everyone thinks.

        I think the evangelinuts will be kicked to the curb sooner rather than later. The republicans can’t currently win at the national level and they’ll never be attractive to women, gays, youth, minorities… until they get rid of the evangelinuts extreme ideological hate. I also think evangelinuts are capable of starting an uprising / war — all in the name of their loving gawd.

      • Oh, I’m sorry if you felt left out…..I am so used to you and I thinking alike on a lot of issues (great minds think alike? – LOL)

        Bob has posted several comments about his assessment of the Evangelinuts but I don’t remember ever asking Bob directly what he thinks this group will do in the future.

        I think the Establishment Republicans know they need the Evangelinuts for their solid-in-their-painted corner and this group does not dare to completely screw over these Evangelinuts like they used.

        Let’s not forget – Republicans were in complete control from 2000 to 2006. Don’t you think they would have done something to ban abortion during all that time – if it was an important issue?

        Not a peep out of them – why?

        Maybe because it is like that one link talking about the grifters in the GOP. If you’re an avid anti-abortion leader and/or preacher/priest/televangelist – just preach how these liberals are encouraging women to kill their babies and those collection plates will be filled sky-high with TAX-FREE money.

        It’s all in the name of being good foot soldiers for God..

        It makes me wonder why anyone on the Anti-Abortion/Pro-Life side would ever want to kill that golden goose of all that beautiful, beautiful money rolling in..

      • BTW – I suspect these Evangelinuts are foaming at the mouth for any Holy War to break out – either with Muslims overseas or Liberal Heathens in our own U.S.A.

      • Aren’t most wars (maybe ALL) due to religion?

      • I used to think religion started all the wars.

        But, in the past few decades – I am starting to think corporations are to blame for a lot of wars.

        But, of course, corporations are a religion to some folks – aren’t they?

      • Yes, you’re right, big business (the wealthiest) do have much to gain from wars, and very little to lose since the wealthy send the poor to do the dying. And often the way they rile up the soldiers into being able to kill other human beings is by using religion.

      • All wars are due to economics.

      • Economics may be the underlying reason – but don’t you think religion is often the motivating factor to get as many people as possible riled up to do their masters’ bidding?

        For example – Iraq War – I believe that war was all about oil and the few top dogs who would benefit the most. I also believe the Saudis wanted Saddam Hussein out of power and used their puppet George W. Bush to actually fight the damn war – and to pay for it as well, even if it meant we went bankrupt.

        Did anyone else notice that GWB and his Gang used the National Guard to fight that damn Iraq War?

        I know, I know….the draft is long gone and every politician knows to NEVER advocate for the draft to start again.. – which is why these folks needed a lot of warm bodies and in a hurry.

        What better way than to stage an attack on America and have some planes fly into a few buildings?

        And then the cherry on top is – make the terrorists the most hated group in the Fundy Evangelical world – the Muslims.

        But… ironic thing that has never been explained is that all but one of those hijackers were from Saudi Arabia.

        I wonder….did George W. Bush ever once ask that Saudi King while they strolled through that garden hand in hand – hey, King, what was up with your homeboys flying those planes and killing all those Americans..

        Was that question EVER asked ???

      • More damn good questions:

        1) Why do we continue to sell weapons to Saudi Arabia?
        2) Why do we have a military base in Saudi Arabia?
        3) Why do we give foreign aid to Saudi Arabia?
        4) And why did anyone ever think that handing over the security at US ports to Saudi Arabia was a good idea?

        One last question – and the most important one IMHO:

        Why aren’t the Muslims in Saudi Arabia seen as terrorists? They are certainly not our friends – are they?

      • But then again – when Republicans still worship Reagan who thought selling weapons to our enemy Iran was a good and patriotic thing to do – why would anyone in today’s GOP blink an eye when their Little Cowboy President walked hand in hand with the Saudi King AFTER a bunch of his homeboys flew those planes into our American buildings and killed Americans.

        If these Republicans are so damn concerned about the four Americans killed at Benghazi and want to investigate – for the 8th time – then why the hell is nobody in that same Republican bunch NOT asking why we are still so damn friendly to Saudi Arabia?

        I don’t remember multiple investigations into the actions of Saudi Arabia before and after 9/11 attack – or did I miss that memo?