Thursday, 10/10/13, Public Square

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by | October 10, 2013 · 6:00 am

17 responses to “Thursday, 10/10/13, Public Square

  1. This demonstrates a surprising amount of common sense among average Americans. In a way, I’m heartened.
    http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2013/10/nobody-sane-likes-republican-party-anymore

    http://www.gallup.com/home.aspx

  2. Republicans have been on the wrong side of history on many important issues…..so why should we expect anything different from this current crop of Krazee Klowns?

    When these folks rant about runaway spending and not having a balanced budget – I just wonder why these folks STILL worship Ronald Reagan?

    There was a guy with a forked tongue……..preaching one thing and then doing another.

    Oh, wait a minute, NOW I understand why these folks worship Reagan. It’s not any different than their Mega Fund Churches – they preach one thing and then do another – don’t they?

    • You’re right, Indy. Republicans have been on the wrong side of history throughout history. It’s easy to think these tea partiers are the least intelligent, least sane people ever, but if you stop to think about their predecessors you can see they’re carrying on the tradition of being childish imbeciles.

      • Republicans, however, were the party which was on the right side of history in ending slavery, the Civil Rights Act of 1964, and the Voting Rights Act, to name three examples. There is and has been, in the 20th and now the 21st Century, a “conservative” wing of the GOP which has stood in the way of progress, along with (from time to time) obstructionist Democrats. The Nixon “Southern Strategy” aimed to bring disaffected Democrats into the Republican Party, which, when combined with Reagan’s bringing “Christian Conservatives” into the GOP, laid the foundation for many of today’s Republican House members and Senators (and Governors, other elected state officials, and legislators).

      • Today’s republicans are bringing slavery back. This time they’re doing their darnest to make most Americans serfs to the rich and powerful. Today’s republicans are the most racist people I’ve known in my lifetime and some are open about their desire to do away with 1964s Civil Rights Act. Now, moving along to voting rights. No sane person can say today’s republicans are protecting the rights of all to vote!

        So I stand corrected about being on the wrong side of history throughout history — that was an unnecessary exaggeration. But I don’t think today’s republicans would be recognized, let alone accepted, by those who put the GRAND in the GOP.

      • wicked

        Wasn’t there a lot of shifting done by the then-Southern-Democrats, who weren’t any too happy with the Civil Rights Act.

        The last good Republican President was our own Eisenhower. Even though he was the first president who sent (peace keeping) troops (requested by the French) into Vietnam, who knew–until he did later–what would happen? Military Industrial Complex, anyone?

    • President Abe Lincoln …. Lincoln …. Lincoln, Ok the only defense I could think of for the Republican party. LOL Now come back with the reply a wife has when a husband tries to defend himself with pointing out some good deal in the past. “What have you done for me lately?”

  3. (from the link): In 1946, Senator Robert Taft denounced President Harry Truman’s plan for national health insurance as “the most socialistic measure this Congress has ever had before it.” Fifteen years later, Ronald Reagan argued that, if Medicare were to be enacted, “one of these days you and I are going to spend our sunset years telling our children and our children’s children what it once was like in America when men were free.” And now comes Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell describing the Affordable Care Act as a “monstrosity,” “a disaster,” and the “single worst piece of legislation passed in the last fifty years.”

    This kind of obstructionism has been seen before. After the Supreme Court’s ruling in Brown v. Board of Education, in 1954, Virginia shut down schools in Charlottesville, Norfolk, and Warren County rather than accept black children in white schools. When the courts forced the schools to open, the governor followed a number of other Southern states in instituting hurdles such as “pupil placement” reviews, “freedom of choice” plans that provided nothing of the sort, and incessant legal delays. While in some states meaningful progress occurred rapidly, in others it took many years. We face a similar situation with health-care reform.

    STATES OF HEALTH
    http://www.newyorker.com/talk/comment/2013/10/07/131007taco_talk_gawande

    • I totally understand your thoughts about the ignorance of too many voters. To add to that there are those who could learn, aren’t ignorant, but remain willfully ill informed. So I can definitely understand why you agree that the average Dick and Jane need to be ‘represented.’ But today it seems those who are elected to ‘represent’ Dick and Jane are even more ignorant, even less informed, than Dick and Jane. These tea partiers are dangerous!

      • Understand what you are saying, but it is the ignorance (willful or otherwise) of Dick and Jane which results in such representatives being elected.

      • 617, I was going to say the same thing. The only reason we have ignorant, hateful and incompetent congress critters is that the voters who sent them there are too stupid to vote for someone saner.

        In this case, crap rolls up hill. Low information, willfully stupid, mouth breathing, knuckle dragging, homophobic, racist, jesus freak voters send people like themselves to Washington.

        And it shows. Just look at all levels of government in Kansas. As Jefferson said, we get the government we deserve.

  4. Cost of the shutdown –

    http://www.shutdowncost.com/

    Amount Congress has earned during the shutdown –

    http://www.congressstillgetspaid.com/

  5. Nate Silver is back… briefly, with six take-home messages. Here is No. 3: “Democrats face extremely unfavorable conditions in trying to regain the House.”

    http://www.grantland.com/fivethirtyeight/story/_/id/9802433/nate-silver-us-government-shutdown

  6. Pompeo had a telephone town hall meeting tonight.

    I wanted to tell you 6176 and Prariepond how correct you both were about Kansas voters. I don’t know how they manage to stay alive — must be dumb luck. Pompeo will be reelected because Kansas voters really are “too stupid to vote for someone saner.”

    • I know, Fnord, I know. I know because I live amongst the dumbest of the dumb. Everyone with even a partial brain has left western Kansas. We’re left with dumb and dumber.

      Evidence? Two words. Tim Huelskamp.

  7. The Debt Ceiling

    Everything you need to know—in cartoon form—about debt-ceiling fiascos, from McKinley’s war with Spain to Obama getting punk’d.

    http://www.themorningnews.org/article/the-debt-ceiling