Thursday, 8/22/13, Public Square

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by | August 22, 2013 · 6:00 am

18 responses to “Thursday, 8/22/13, Public Square

  1. The link discusses northern Colorado wanting to form a new state, and several other interesting configurations including maintaining the 50 number and just rearranging the borders so all the states are equal in population, and splitting up big states until we have 545 states with Wyoming-sized populations — so the Senate is finally geographically representative, large states aren’t underrepresented in the Electoral College, House districts no longer vary widely in population size, and residents of currently-large states have state governments where their voices matter more. Complete with a map of the new 50 states with equal populations.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/08/21/this-map-is-how-the-united-states-would-look-if-life-were-fair/?tid=pm_business_pop

    • Freedomwriter

      Heck, I like the “new fifty”! Let’s see, are we in Ogallalah or Muskogee? 🙂

    • Uh, you guys would be Muskogee. I would be Ogallalah. Geez, hard to imagine but in some ways, we have more in common with eastern Colorado than eastern Kansas. I think we have just as many nut cases as Weld County if not more!

  2. Interesting. Governor Rick Perry wants ‘special’ treatment. I read it’s called “Perry Picking.”

    Health care hypocrisy with a twist
    http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2013/08/21/20119546-health-care-hypocrisy-with-a-twist?lite

  3. Like puzzles? Here are some fun puzzles —

    Can You Solve Slate’s Gerrymandering Jigsaw Puzzle?
    Put the ridiculously gerrymandered congressional districts back together.
    http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/map_of_the_week/2013/08/gerrymandering_jigsaw_puzzle_game_put_the_congressional_districts_back_together.html

  4. wicked

    This is what Kansas schools will look like in a few years.

    “Indescribably insane”: A public school system from hell

  5. Will look like? Hell, I think in some ways, it already is like that!

  6. I think the republicans will wait until after 2014 midterm elections to begin impeachment proceedings in the House. If they retain the majority after midterms, which is likely, I think we can count on it — no matter what. There is certainly no need for evidence or proof of high crimes or misdemeanors since their constituency wants it and the process keeps them from even pretending to do anything, having any ideas or solutions. Until then, they’ll continue lying to their constituents that Obamacare can be defunded or repealed, and taking frivolous votes so they can tell them how hard they’re trying.

    Just remember their constituency isn’t large enough to win a national election alone and they’re shrinking with each death of an old white mean person. Impeachment won’t attract anyone new so it could be the final nail.

    During a Wednesday town hall in Muskogee, Oklahoma, Sen. Tom Coburn (R-OK) told a member in the audience that while he didn’t “have the legal background” to know whether Obama carried out any high crimes and misdemeanors, the president certainly was getting “perilously close.”

    “I think there’s some intended violation of the law in this administration, but I also think there’s a ton of incompetence of people who are making decisions,” Coburn said in a video flagged by BuzzFeed on Thursday.

    “Even if there is incompetence, the IRS forces me to abide by the law,” a constituent responded.

    “No, I agree,” Coburn said. “My little wiggle out of that when I get that written to me is I believe that needs to be evaluated and determined but thank goodness it doesn’t have to happen in the Senate until they’ve brought charges in the House. Those are serious things but we’re in a serious time. I don’t have the legal background to know if that rises to high crimes and misdemeanor but I think they’re getting perilously close.”

  7. (from the link):

    “At a certain point they will have to level with the base, and acknowledge that the law is not going to be stopped through tactics outside normal electoral channels.”

    But this isn’t isolated to healthcare.

    Days before the August recess, we saw a harbinger of the looming comeuppances when Republicans demonstrated that for all their talk about locking in sequestration-level spending by cutting domestic programs even further and plussing up spending on defense, they can’t actually execute. Some members aren’t actually all that interested in cutting programs that benefit their constituents, or are worried about the political blowback if they do. Others demand more radical cuts. Add it all up and the votes they need to do what they pledged to do just aren’t there.

    And now that Cruz, Lee, et al. have opportunistically twinned Obamacare and the budget process in the minds of conservative voters, and GOP leaders are showing no interest in joining the fight, those voters are coming correctly to the conclusion that they’ve been lied to.

    The right realizes it’s been lied to by Republicans
    http://www.salon.com/2013/08/22/the_right_realizes_its_been_lied_to_by_republicans/

    • wicked

      Does coming to the conclusion they’ve been lied to mean more votes for Ds, less votes for Rs, or no change? I think that’s the question. If it was me, I’d take a good,hard look at who has been telling these whoppers and at least not vote for those particular ones. I might listen to the ones who come closer to the truth.

      • I don’t think it will have an effect on who current republicans vote for or against. I’ve never seen such sore losers as republicans. They also can make up and buy into excuses that are unbelievable. Then there’s their ability to rewrite history to fit their whim. Republicans are a dying breed but as long as they are alive they will vote for the person with the little “R” beside their name. This includes those republicans who claim they are ‘independent.’

        The effect on the vote is the fact that republicans are a dying breed and hold no attraction for anyone to join their ranks.

      • Holy crap, if more than 20 percent of people polled in Louisiana think Obama was responsible for the bad Katrina response, and 44 percent aren’t sure who was responsible, and only 20 plus percent think Bush was responsible…

        Exactly WHEN TF will they wise up that they’ve been lied to?

        I gotta say it.

        Jesus WEPT!

      • That kind of stoopid needs someone standing nearby to prompt, “breathe in, breathe out…”

        But we’ve always known republicans aren’t the brightest bulbs in the pack. People with sense don’t vote against their own best interests.

  8. I forgot to mention those were the numbers for repukes polled in LA.

    No kidding. That’s what they think.

    http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017140198

  9. More Watergate Nixon tapes have been released.

    Also note – Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush both called Nixon with their full support. – even knowing what Nixon and his Gang did ..

    IOKIYAR

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23788834

    • Now we have Televangelist Billy Graham telling Nixon that he loved him and that he felt like slashing their throats at CBS over their negative coverage of the Watergate scandal.

      Wow…is that how a man of God should be talking – slashing peoples’ throats?

      Evil starts in the heart – isn’t that the good Book says?

      Oh…but never fear…..Billy justified everything by saying that his wife thought that the Communists and Left Wing were out to get Nixon.

      Oh….yeah….trotting out that old ‘Communists and Left Wing’ crappola line to distract from the real culprits……

      Damn…I am so sick of Republicans….

      http://www.citizen-times.com/article/20130822/NEWS/308220043/Nixon-tape-from-1973-features-Billy-Graham-phone-call