Tuesday, 6/25/13, Public Square

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by | June 25, 2013 · 6:00 am

41 responses to “Tuesday, 6/25/13, Public Square

  1. Environmentalists who have been prodding President Obama to address climate change get their answer this week.

    Obama announced via video this past weekend that he will deliver a climate change speech today at 1:35pm ET, outlining “a national plan to reduce carbon pollution, prepare our country for the impacts of climate change, and lead global efforts to fight it.”

  2. Massachusetts special election to fill the U. S. Senate seat vacated by Secretary of State John Kerry is today..

    • Chris Matthews was up there last night doing his show live….I expect Chris to be live again today from the very same spot.

      This election will determine if Scott Brown was a GOP fluke or if the Republicans have made inroads in that state.

      Personally – I think Scott Brown won due in large part to his Democratic opponent – Coakley ? – was not much of a candidate. She took it for granted – IMHO – and that is what turned off a lot of folks – on both sides.

      • Get out the vote efforts will make a difference too. When Brown was elected the state’s democrats took too much for granted. Let’s hope they learned a lesson!

      • I agree, when they take for granted the electorate it will come back and bite them. You can only go so long thinking that the people are too stupid to notice or pay attention before it comes back and surprises you.

    • sure hope that they will have the wisdom to fill it with someone with the same common sense and intelligence that John Kerry has.

    • Democratic Representative Ed Markey was just elected to the U.S. Senate to serve the remainder of John Kerry’s term.

  3. The above quote from Hillary Clinton describes exactly why I have no desire to go over to that other blog.

    I do not think being negative is clever.

    I have noticed that about these Tea Pots and Fundy Far Right Christians. The more negative and nasty the comment – the more high-fives get passed around their Neanderthal cave.

    I just don’t understand that kind of thinking.

    But – then again – I don’t understand the need for a pissing contest over every issue.

  4. After House Republican leaders suffered an embarrassing setback last week, watching their members defeat their own farm bill, House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) reflexively blamed the House Democratic minority for the failure. It didn’t matter that it was the House GOP that killed the bill; what mattered was an incoherent attempt at playing the blame game.

    Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wisc.) said Monday that Republicans in the House “can’t govern” if Democrats do not keep their word on how they plan to vote, laying blame for the defeat of last week’s farm bill at the feet of the minority party. “The Democrats promised 40 votes and they didn’t deliver the votes that they promised,” Ryan told MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.” “Our leaders brought the bill to the floor based on the commitment that the Democrats from the agricultural districts made, and then during consideration on the floor, they reneged on the promise.”

    There were 40 House Dems who intended to vote for the Republicans’ farm bill, but many balked after GOP lawmakers moved it further to the right, which hardly constitutes a broken promise. In the end, 24 of the 40 supported the legislation.

    But here’s the key: if those 16 Democrats who balked had voted for the bill, it would have fallen short anyway. Ryan doesn’t even need a calculator: the bill had 195 votes. Add 16 to that, and you get 211 votes — seven short of what was needed.

    Ryan’s party killed its own legislation, and this drive to blame Democrats isn’t just foolish, it’s also at odds with basic arithmetic: 195 + 16 = 211, not 218.

    Are House Republican leaders so allergic to responsibility that they can’t own up to their own obvious failures?

    Helping Paul Ryan with arithmetic
    http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2013/06/24/19117522-helping-paul-ryan-with-arithmetic?lite

    • Paul Ryan often needs help with arithmetic! But his constituency ignores facts and goes with the line they’re given.

      • I saw that on Rachel’s show last night. And lyin’ ryan is the repuke NUMBERS guy? Considered one of the party’s “deep thinkers?” Woof. Might as well make the Texas rape kit lady the spokeswoman for the party’s outreach to women voters. Make Clarence “I hate affirmative action” Thomas their spokesman to the African American community, and make Jeb Bush their Hispanic outreach coordinator. You know, he thinks they are more fertile and all.

        Hey, I hear Paula Deen is looking for a job. She could be a twofer. Outreach to minorities and the poster child for healthy living….

      • Santorum told everyone that smart people will never be on the republican side.

      • That Texan rape-kit ‘lady’ is as stupid as a box of rocks and reminded me of Sarah Palin, Michele Bachmann, et al. You have to be pretty stupid to be both a woman and a republican. If you show any indication of not being stupid the republicans themselves call you a RINO or worse.

        What is the oft-repeated wisdom that went something like — why interfere when your opponent is self-destructing?

  5. We have a decision from The Supreme Court this morning. They have struck down a key part of the Voting Rights Act.

    “Our decision in no way affects the permanent, nationwide ban on racial discrimination in voting found in [Section] 2. We issue no holding on [Section] 5 itself, only on the coverage formula. Congress may draft another formula based on current conditions”

    http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/12pdf/12-96_6k47.pdf

    • Thank you, fnord, for the excerpt. This is the part that to me was presently indefensible. As I said, back with such other thoughts as I may have after review.

    • Two comments I find worth repeating:

      “Watch what happens now in RedStatePalooza… One voting machine on top of a greased pole, ballots for minority areas in Sanskrit… No really, sky’s the limit.” — anonymous blogger

      “The Supreme Court has effectively gutted one of the nation’s most important and effective civil rights laws. Minority voters in places with a record of discrimination are now at greater risk of being disenfranchised than they have been in decades. Today’s decision is a blow to democracy. Jurisdictions will be able to enact policies which prevent minorities from voting, and the only recourse these citizens will have will be expensive and time-consuming litigation.” — Jon Greenbaum, chief counsel of the Lawyers Committee for Civil Rights Under Law

  6. I’ll be back on the Voting Rights Act decision once I have a chance to review it.
    Follow-up this a.m. Vision in said eye already 20/25, healing going very well, next follow-up in two weeks. Doctor recommended getting some OTC reading glasses, which will be next step. Those on FB can read my thoughts on type and rationale (such as it is).

    • Tickled about the great progress!!

      I’ll be interested in what you have to say about the SCOTUS decision when you’ve read it and formed your thoughts, but remember we speak English and your native tongue is a foreign language to many of us. 🙂

      My only thought is that if SCOTUS (or anyone for that fact) expects the current U.S. House to draft anything other than legislation to cut taxes for the wealthy or restrict women’s reproductive rights, treat women like chattel or children who must be told what is allowed, they haven’t been paying attention!

      • My thoughts are the Chief Justice, in writing the majority opinion, got it correct. I could condense his opinion to the following: We warned Congress that it needed to really look at the Act and Section 4 in particular. Congress put on a great show, but in the end, such show was form over substance, as it reauthorized the Act without substantively changing Section 4. Section 4 is not Constitutional in its present form, given the disparate treatment of the states therein authorized by virtue of its outdated formula, and thus we reverse.
        The dissent is sad, in a way, in that it seems to ignore the thrust of the majority opinion on Section 4.
        I expected the Court to rule as it did, but with a 6-3 or 7-2 majority. Like it or not, it is up to the Congress to amend the Act to show pervasiveness, as it may now need to be redefined. At least SCOTUS didn’t void the entire Act, which was always a possible outcome.
        BTW, I skipped the Thomas concurrence. I need to preserve the brain cells I have left.

      • Great job, 6176! I understood clearly and easily! 🙂

        As long as the current republican-dominated U. S. House is a reality we shouldn’t hold our breath waiting for them to rewrite something that applies to today and to all states equally.

  7. From the Chief Justice: “Tomorrow at 10 a.m. will be the last day and we will release all the remaining opinions.”

  8. Thought some here, at least, would agree:

    • With the exception of laws that restrict women’s rights to make their own decisions about their reproductive health and those that make women subject to the directions and regulations of Congress, I would agree.

      • I guess I was thinking of useful and beneficial to the country laws, fnord.

      • Since republicans won the majority in the U. S. House in the 2010 midterms there has been a a dry spell on any activities, and definitely on the passage of any laws, that might be considered “useful and beneficial to the country.”

        But they have managed to vote to repeal Obamacare somewhere around thirty seven times…

      • Hence, why I posted the tweet above. It’s all about reelection, especially in the House, and the threat of being “primaried” in the so-called “safe” districts their friends in the state legislatures gerrymandered for them.

  9. After listening to Democratic Senator Wendy Davis, is there a republican in Texas who may admit that under-estimating women isn’t wise? Or will the Texas republicans, including rape-kit-idiot-lady, continue to ignore this fact at their own peril?

  10. Women understand this isn’t as much about abortion as it is about keeping women powerless and dependent. It’s not going to work!

  11. Liveblog
    10:07 p.m. by Becca Aaronson
    The Senate Bill 5 filibuster is over. The Democrats, led by state Sen. Wendy Davis, D-Fort Worth, have lost after she talked for more than 11 hours, nearly continuously, in an effort to kill abortion legislation.
    State Sen. Donna Campbell, R-San Antonio, jumped to her feet to call a point of order on Davis when she began discussing the impact of the 2011 abortion sonogram law in Texas.
    Davis tried to argue that her discussion of the impact of that law was germane, because the abortion restrictions in SB 5 would be coupled with the sonogram requirements. But that argument didn’t stick.
    “After going over what people heard as far as discussion, Sen, Campbell your point of order iswell taken and is sustained,” said Dewhurst.
    Davis’ third violation of the Senate’s filibuster rules came just before the filibuster countdown hit the two-hour mark. Now, the Senate can vote to end the filibuster and likely a vote on SB 5.
    “Let her speak,” the audience in the gallery chanted. Despite multiple attempts, Dewhurst struggled to bring the chamber to order. State troopers have begun forcing everyone in the Senate gallery to exit the chamber.

  12. Amid mass confusion and protests, Texas abortion bill fails to pass in time for deadline

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/lawmaker-undertakes-daylong-filibuster-to-block-wide-ranging-abortion-limits-in-texas/2013/06/25/f80613a2-de01-11e2-bc84-8049224b33e1_story.html

    The most disturbing thing about this case, is that those in control of the legislature attempted to use forgery to pervert the law.

    wendy davis just added her name to the long list of american heroes who didn’t need a gun to fight the forces of tyranny

    • I heard on the CBS News this morning that Texas Republicans were trying to manipulate the last-minute voting to say that the abortion bill did pass?

      Was there ever a vote on the bill?

  13. There are some damn good people in Texas. If you pick a fight with one of them, you better bring a lunch and a jug of water because it’s going to be a loooong damn day. Hell hath no fury like a GOOD Texas woman. When you see one winding up for a “fit” as they say, you better just hollar “stand back, y’all.”

    • Maybe I have some Texas-blood in me somewhere? LOL

      I am a patient woman but you get me riled up…..and just watch the fur fly.

      BTW – the fastest way to rile me up is to patronize me as ‘just a woman’…..yeah, those words have been said to me by a few men in my past 40 years of adult womanhood – and they all lived to regret saying those words…