Wednesday, 6/12/13, Public Square



by | June 12, 2013 · 6:00 am

21 responses to “Wednesday, 6/12/13, Public Square

  1. (holding arm above head and shaking fist): You little whipper snappers get off my lawn!

    Ah, America, I got mine (always the hard way, of course) so I don’t owe anybody anything and I’m sick and tired (tired and sick I tell ya) of my taxes going to lazy people! Don’t even bring up children. I raised my own, and those parents have that same responsibility!

    Could go onandon…
    Avoid these kinds of people. Attitudes really can be contagious and it’s not a happy way to face the day. đŸ™‚

    I know TED talks are long, but this one is well worth the time it takes to listen. Great lesson taught here! Austerity is a failed economic premise even when it comes to charitable giving!

    • I avoid the pharmacy aisle at WalMart when I see a bunch of old farts there……these people are mean (especially to the little kids).

      True story – I have had more than one old fart actually buckled down and run, push my cart out of the way with my toddler grandson sitting in the seat.

      You know what that type of behavior does to me? Especially when I know the old farts are getting their drugs because of MY tax dollars?


      And, let’s not forget , I also work in the pharmacy business – and we service long-term care, hospice, home health, assisted living……I know exactly what is being pushed through on the taxpayers’ dime.


      I don’t mind paying if these people really need their drugs – but Viagra, Cialis or a penis pump?

      Seriously? ….

      • Although I find grumpy people of all ages, more older people do seem grumpy (and downright mean). How sad for them. Maybe it’s because I live in Kansas where most of them are republicans and they’re afraid I’m going to get something I didn’t work for. That would make my day (and me) pretty miserable if I had to always be on the lookout for the lazy, no good, undeserving, socialist, communist, heathen democrats.

        I’m sure that Medicare is paying for some life-enhancing meds rather than only those that keep people alive. I don’t care. Medicare is a safety net that should be available for every American, it’s a government-subsidized program that is endangered because it gives to some that are unworthy, lazy, didn’t earn — ya know like that 45 year old man who appears to have no health problems and is obviously only lazy drawing both SS Disability and Medicare. What an atrocity!

        (NOTE: these and many other conditions cannot be ‘seen’): IBS, Crohn’s, PTSD, Neuropathy, Spinal Stinosis, Anxiety, Arthritis, Cancer, Heart Disease, Bipolar, Depression, Diabetes, Lupus, Fibromyalgia, Friedrichs’s Ataxia (FA) MS, AS, ME, , Epilepsy, Autism…

        I am not about to begin making judgments about which people are worthy. We’re America where all people should have equal opportunities. And, we still could if we weren’t so worried that someone might get something they don’t deserve. If we weren’t so dead set on giving the biggest breaks to those who need them least. I don’t want to be known as a county of opportunities for a few.

      • I am all in favor of the Medicare Drug program, but, like you, the Viagra and Cialis stuff on the taxpayer dime is just outrageous. Being able to afford drugs keeps many people alive. Dick drugs? Not so much.

        The irony is that the people who benefit from the budget busting Medicare Part D are also the ones bitching the loudest about “gummit health care” and “socialized medicine.” WTF? Where do they think the money comes from to pay for all that stuff?

        Drugs for me but not for thee!

      • There are studies that show the grumpier you are, the longer you live. indy should well be aware of these studies, as she has been involved in the long term care industry.

      • Oh, Crap. As grumpy as I am I could live forever….

      • Well, I’ll have some company.

    • I love TED talks. Have you seen the one given by Lauren Zuniga? I don’t have a link, but I wish we had her in Kansas instead of Oklahoma. She’s the one who wrote the performance poetry piece to the Oklahoma legislators regarding women. It’s just stunning in its brilliance.

  2. What’s wrong with America?

    IMHO —–

    1) We are well-trained consumers. Just put it on television – and we want it NOW. To really make us feel we NEED it – make it next-to-impossible to get. That ALWAYS drives up the price and the desire to get ‘it’ (whatever that ‘it’ is – it does not matter). Case in point – any Christmas toy that has been dubbed ‘the #1 toy for that year’ – have you noticed that many times, that toy suddenly becomes hard to find…so the prices go way, way up ..if you can find one?

    2) We are not taught to be content with what we have. We always want more.

    3) We truly do believe that we are ‘exceptional’ and we DESERVE the best – even if we don’t want to work for it.

    4) There is no shame or embarrassment anymore in our society. Look around at these politicians and mega church preachers and their cousins – the televangelists. Talk about your sinners……but where is the public shame and humiliation?

    When the Catholic Church was successfully sued in a court of law for covering up the crime of child molestation – and that church still continues on as if they run the world? Something is very wrong about that..

    5) Last – but certainly not least – we are taught that GREED is a good thing.

    I think that started with Ronald Reagan………today’s economics is nothing more than Reagan’s chickens coming home to roost.

    Let’s not forget – Reagan was also the genius that actually tried to classify ketchup as a vegetable for school lunches.

    When was the last time you had a big ol’ bowl of ketchup?

    Reagan – he was a weinee….

    • indy, the greed machine began in the early 1970s, which was one factor (minor, relative to the apparent incompetence of President Carter) in the Reagan election in 1980. It was quite healthy when I returned to law school in 1977 following my four years in the Air Force, quite evident in the attitudes of the students compared to four years prior.

  3. Wonder what America can outsource or privatize today so we can make progress on our path to third-world status? Surely there’s a long list of things that have been plodding along that we should never, no not ever see if there is some way they could be improved and instead we simply privatize them, outsource them! Some rich people surely don’t have their greedy profit machine optimized yet! You just know those rich people will have enough crumbs to keep the rest of us alive! Barely. Yep! Any taxes we are forced to pay or any tax deferrals that are allowed should definitely go to businesses! Uh huh.

    • It becomes a game after a while, and there’s never enough because one wins when s/he has all the money and power. While this, at present, can’t happen, that does not defeat the purpose of the game.

    • I would read it all, but I’ve heard it too many times — always from some stupid jerk who doesn’t have a uterus, just a loud voice and lack of information. I’ll be pleased when the day comes that women populate both the state houses and the U. S. House and Senate in majority numbers like we do the population. Although the national media has introduced us to some really stupid women over the past few years, some of the men currently holding elective office set the bar very very low.

  4. The young girl who needed a new lung and had a judge rule that an adult relative could be a donor is in surgery today. I wish her well and a very long, productive life.

    What a conundrum. What a Pandora’s box. I’m dismayed the judge got involved and I’m relieved that Secretary Sebelius used good judgment in not getting involved. The many people waiting on the limited number of organs being donated don’t need it complicated by any government intrusion. There are many other children (and adults) waiting for a lung transplant. Will the path now include asking a court to decide?

    Is this already a situation decided by one’s monetary resources? If not, will it become so soon? I know involving a court adds to the costs. It was my understanding that medical experts used the criteria of a child getting a child’s lung to help a person who has an expectancy of living long getting an organ with an equally long life expectancy. What I know for sure is the whole process is a complicated one with the experts that know the insandouts making the decisions. I hope it stays in the realm of experts. Decisions and criteria this serious can’t be made willy nilly or by people who are less than very well informed.

    • I have a real problem with this case. The young woman suffers from Cystic Fibrosis. discusses some of the reasons therefor.
      Due to the nature of CF, there are other organs affected by the disease, the impairments to which continue. The immunosuppressants needed result in the recipient being even more succeptible to bacterial infections.
      I don’t want judges nor cabinet members making that decision.

      • Many long years ago I learned more than I ever wanted to know about CF. My dearest friend lost two daughters to this disease. The parents didn’t know about the defective genes they both carried until after both girls were born. The victims don’t digest food without enzymes taken orally. There are, as you said 6176, more organs than lungs involved. Treatment for the disease, which is a genetic disorder, has improved tremendously and victims lifetimes are much longer today (in to their 30s) than back in the 80s when my friends children died at almost 12.

        I took care of the girls during the daytime because the parents made too much money for assistance and not nearly enough to pay for the medical care on one salary thus the mother was forced to work. I learned how to do the percussion treatments, how to watch the diet, stools… I’ll stop.

        Unless science has made new discoveries since those days long ago when I was paying attention, if both parents have the gene their chances of having a child with the disease are one in four. My friends had one healthy child out of three and didn’t learn anything about their genetics until after the birth of their third daughter who, along with their first, was a victim of CF. Today, genetic counseling has led many families to adoption rather than pass along the genetic disorder.

      • The elder’s piano teacher knew, given the multiple instances of CF in her very large family, there was a risk. Since this was more than 25 years ago, they decided to take no chances and adopted two adorable girls, both of whom should now be out of college (suddenly began to feel very elderly). Unless we can do gene replacement, if both parents are carriers of the gene (obviously recessive), applying Mendel’s law, there is a 25% chance a child will have CF; a 50% chance of being a carrier; and a 25% chance of being “clean”.
        From what I have read since lung transplants have become considered for “treatment”, the recipient’s life expectancy isn’t extended all that much by the procedure, but the quality is improved.

  5. Just a couple of links where Kansas is making the national news.

    Is Kansas on the path to financial crisis?

    From RollingStone:
    Rogue State: How Far-Right Fanatics Hijacked Kansas