Monday, 5/27/13, Public Square

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by | May 27, 2013 · 6:00 am

23 responses to “Monday, 5/27/13, Public Square

  1. “No one won the last war, and no one will win the next war.”
    — Eleanor Roosevelt

    • Truly. While there are “winners” declared, in fact there really aren’t any winners in war. At best, the “winners” buy time for their descendants for a generation or longer.

    • Bob White

      The only “winning” is when both parties “win.” It more often happens through diplomacy, compromise and win-win outcomes; not from war and defeat. And the US Empire is not very good at it because the Empire must have its own way.

    • Short break from statuses about donations, shelters, etc.
      THIS WOMAN IS FROM WESTBORO BAPTIST, THEY ARE IN NORMAN RIGHT NOW. THEY ARE PLANNING ON PICKETING CHILDREN’S FUNERALS IN MOORE STARTING FRIDAY.

    • I hope no one gives her a reason to sue! I think lawsuits are what finance their trips to places where they can spread their hate.

      People who have hearts full of hate seem to be very sad people. That poison has to suck at least twice as much for them as it does for me. Seriously. Their hearts are gonna stick that way if they don’t stop it.

      • To make things even worse – how many other self-professing Christians believe the same basic crappola that Westboro people do – but are those who sit in the background keeping quiet but still festering with the same deep hatred…

        Granted – Westboro takes it too far …..but their root beliefs is that all homosexuality is a sin and God is punishing our country for tolerating these folks.

        Doesn’t that sound eerily familiar to a lot of other folks on the Right side of the aisle?

        Only difference is – Westboro pickets funerals to prove they love their God.

        Fundy Mega Corporate Church people line up to buy a deep-fried chicken sandwich to prove they love their God.

        But…bottom line….what is the issue always about with both of these groups?

        As my grandpa used to say – they are two peas in the same pod – and both are rotten.

  2. Water shortages within a generation. No wonder they want to privatize it now …

    Scientists warn that Earth faces severe water shortages within a generation
    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/05/24/scientists-warn-that-earth-faces-severe-water-shortages-within-a-generation/

    • Isn’t that basically what President Obama’s speech on national security was saying?

      Like I’ve said many times….I am on the fence about the use of drones.

      But if one drone can prevent the deaths and wounding of tens of thousands of our soldiers – why not use the technology?

  3. I was watching the Memorial Service at Arlington Cemetery earlier this morning.

    President Obama is such an eloquent and compassionate speaker.

    When Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel spoke – I was reminded of how much hatred and vitriol was spewed on that man and by his OWN fellow Republicans.

    Is that any way to treat a soldier and still call yourself a loyal patriot?

    I call B.S. on those Republicans who spit in the face of Chuck Hagel.

    I am also reminded that Chuck Hagel was one of the ‘grunt’ soldiers in Vietnam – and he looks at wars entirely different than these war mongering folks on the Right side of the political aisle.

    Obama said something to the effect that those who make the decisions to go to war should ALWAYS be worthy of those Americans they send into harm’s way.

    Thank GOD…..a president and Secretary of Defense that understands there is a human value – real people dying and being wounded – when grown men play war games from their comfortable seats in Congress.

    • NCOs and enlisted troops always look at war differently than officers, and particularly politicians with no military experience.

    • I am reminded of how Senator Dole was treated on the Senate floor a few months ago. It makes me very sad. This loss of civility, of realizing every human deserves to be treated with dignity, remembering one’s manners, and behaving appropriately is a big loss. I feel sure it would be easier to find redeeming qualities in someone’s differing opinions if only they didn’t begin with personal insults and downright poor behavior.

      • Here is the video of the Bob Dole interview by Chris Wallace on Fox News..

        I have never been a fan of Dole but I do agree that GOP needs to put out a signed ‘Closed for Repairs’.

        When I saw this ….I was reminded of Jon Huntsman during the 2012 GOP presidential primary….

        Wasn’t Jon Huntsman saying about the same thing regarding the Grand Old Party?

        But – hey – Dole gives Reagan a lot more praise than I think Ronnie deserves.

        After all, Ronnie was the one that invited Jerry Falwell and his Fundies into the inner circle of the GOP.

        Now the Fundies have brought their cousins – Teapublicans – to the party and these are the folks who are running the entire thing.

        http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Bob+dole+fox+news&mid=D63B50E05761658B7F18D63B50E05761658B7F18&view=detail&FORM=VIRE2

    • I saw this on the Huffington Post Blog – and some folks (obviously Republicans) stated that nobody deserves paid vacation time from their employer.

      Of course, these are also the buffoons that spew that health insurance did not need to be reformed because everybody could buy it – we were all just ‘takers’ and too lazy to pay for it ourselves.

      Excuse me, but when my 5-yr-old was diagnosed with Insulin Dependent Diabetes – do you know how many insurance agents actually laughed in my face?

      This was in 1985 – Reagan was in office.

      I still remember the advice the hospital social worker gave me when my son was discharged after initial diagnosis and first treatment to get his high blood sugars stable…..\

      She told me – divorce your husband (you can still live with him) – never go to work and both your kids (we also had a 7-yr-old daughter) would get their health care paid until they were legal age paid for by Medicaid.

      So..the next time any Teapublican tries to say that Obama started all this Medicaid expansion – just remind them of this story..

      Their Boy – Ronnie Reagan – was in office (and had been for 5 years) and this was the advice I was given at the time.

      I wonder…how many parents have made that choice when their kids faced a life-changing health condition?

      We even had health insurance at that time – but they were trying to find any loopholes possible to get out of paying covered expenses.

      Which is why – throughout the years – I tried to get private health insurance just for my son…..and I was literally laughed at to my face.

    • In an op-ed for The New York Times, Paul Krugman said:

      “Still, here’s what it seems is about to happen: millions of Americans will suddenly gain health coverage, and millions more will feel much more secure knowing that such coverage is available if they lose their jobs or suffer other misfortunes. Only a relative handful of people will be hurt at all. And as contrasts emerge between the experience of states like California that are making the most of the new policy and that of states like Texas whose politicians are doing their best to undermine it, the sheer meanspiritedness of the Obamacare opponents will become ever more obvious.

      So yes, it does look as if there’s an Obamacare shock coming: the shock of learning that a public program designed to help a lot of people can, strange to say, end up helping a lot of people — especially when government officials actually try to make it work.”

      The Obamacare Shock
      http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/27/opinion/krugman-the-obamacare-shock.html?_r=0

      • Let me tell you …..I have already heard several Republicans who are blaming Obamacare for Via Christi announcing they are being forced to lay off workers due to less patient visits.

        Well…let’s see……when the lion’s share of the patient visits are Medicare (and I know this from seeing all the paperwork crossing my desk) and then Teabaggers are slashing the federal budget…

        What did these buffoons expect was going to happen?

        Geesh….

      • You know what? Republicans are gonna complain until they manage to get the White House. They can’t win at the national level without minorities and that’s without mentioning the largest majority voters — women. So, turn them off if you can. They’re sore losers. So far I haven’t even seen or heard any evidence that most of them acknowledge their problem which is the first step It’s gonna be a while before they quit their complaining.

        Meanwhile more and more people will enjoy the benefits of Obamacare which concentrates on patient outcome. The hospitals should expect to see fewer re-admittances.

        I think one of the reasons patient census at the big hospitals is down is because there are a bunch of very sick people there and the smaller specialty hospitals are where elective surgery is safest. When hubby had his knees replaced last year we went to a specialty hospital where other people were going in well and coming out with new joints and not super bugs.

      • Why wouldn’t a person choose a smaller specialty hospital over the larger hospitals in town?

        I have been to both Wesley and Via Christ hospitals. (in 2007).

        Wesley happily gave me a two-year payment plan for my portion of the bill. This was a 3-day stay when I started my cancer journey – and the mass had not been found. I was diagnosed with Diverticulitis, treated and sent home.

        Then 10 days later – I went to Via Christi. Stayed for 29 days.

        Via Christi was on the phone the day after my discharge (I was in their fine establishment for 29 days and was gutted like a fish and still had two drainage bags hanging from my side)

        And what did Via Christi want when they telephoned me – to ask how I was doing ?

        Oh HELL NO….they were demanding to know when they would get their damn money.