Saturday, 4/20/13, Public Square

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by | April 20, 2013 · 6:00 am

32 responses to “Saturday, 4/20/13, Public Square

  1. San Brownback will continue to learn from and emulate Rick Perry! Why, ole Sam may have some new idiot ideas of his very own up his sleeve!

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    Brownback’s fight for sales tax plan isn’t over

    Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2013/04/18/4190126/brownbacks-fight-for-sales-tax.html#storylink=cpy

  2. This is a very good piece. I recommend reading it all, here are a few ‘snips’ —

    Crime and punishment — Kansas style

    And there’s plenty of punishment going around in Kansas these days. The neo-conservative Kansans want to punish everyone for something. Punish the indigent, the old, the working poor, the immigrants, the educated and the uneducated, take your pick.

    The tea party struck up this tune a few years ago and it’s only gotten louder since Sam Brownback got his seat of judgment and was voted a group of lackeys to sing the chorus. The latest punishment is drug testing people on assistance. Added to the punishment the schools and universities are taking, and the punishment given the unions and the civil servants, and Kansas is making a name for itself as the most punitive state in the union.

    In a classic tea party move, the section of the bill that allowed for drug rehabilitation was gutted. At least they’ve admitted the bill isn’t about drugs or addiction, it’s about segregating users. It’s about spending dollars to save pennies. This is standard tea party economics.

    The neo-conservatives like punishment. It must feel righteous to them. A real conservative would find that helping the citizen creates a taxpayer, and understands that a citizen’s potential is something to be fostered. A real conservative has a healthy understanding of the common good.

    Where is the line drawn between punishment and cruelty? It’s an important distinction, and one I fear the tea people are not capable of making. They don’t see the end game of this collective abuse of a citizen’s rights and privacy. It is odd that the very people outraged at the abuse of the constitution are so willing to crawl into the privacy of others.

    http://hdnews.net/opinion/Hart041713

  3. It’s about spending dollars to save pennies.
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    I’ve seen this play out in corporations many times. And who runs the Tea Party – a corporation..

    Who fought so hard to get corporations recognized to be a legal person – Republicans.

    Of course, the dirty little secret is ‘ certain right’ people get to spend those dollars – and that is where these Teapublicans want to be. THEY want to get at all that taxpayer money…….with no rules, no regulations, and nobody had dared to say one word against them – or they will get punished.

    And not just punished – but they will also go to HELL – because yahoo corporate mega church preacher man says so……

  4. I am relieved the second suspect was captured alive. I also hope they can get some answers to so many questions.

    But as PP pointed out – If these two brothers were some part of some big Al Queda extremist group – then why haven’t we heard them bragging about being able to pull this off?

    All day yesterday – a major city was in lockdown in search of a 19-yr-old.

    And he alluded them for quite a while – didn’t he? He was wounded and suffered a lot of blood loss (according to reports).

    I just can’t imagine if he was one of these Al Queda groups that they would not be out laughing and cheering that this 19-yr-old kept our law enforcement and an entire city tied up for so long.

    That point alone – you know – would make any bunch of men who think they can rule the world by force – to want to jump in and take credit for that 19-yr-old being one of theirs.

    I suspect – these two brothers were just acting on their own. But – hey – with all those videos out there showing how to make these pressure cooker bombs……..is that really helpful?

    I further suspect these two brothers just had their fill of hearing Talk Radio Hate Shock Jocks sit for 24/7 and demonize Muslims and Praise the ability for people to stockpile human-killing machines.

    Maybe – just maybe – these were two brothers who just got it into their heads to show Rushbo and his Gang of Paid Mouthpieces what two ‘foreigners’ can really do?

    Who knows…….but we had better find out what their motivation was (if we can).

    Because, as we have seen, since this has been done in Boston, some other contestant in this never-ending pissing contest will try to step up to the line…

    Maybe we should pass a law to have all the pisser hoses cut off?

    • Bombs are already illegal. When you hear the republicans speculating that now President Obama will attempt to outlaw pressure cookers, keep in mind these republicans are scared, simple-minded cowards and can’t actually face life straight on. They are also a small, and diminishing, minority of people. At a time they thought a slam dunk was in the works — last falls national elections — they lost the presidency plus seats in both the Senate and House. Their numbers are dwindling each year and they can’t even figure out why.

      • But that simple ideologue fits so well on to a bumper sticker..

        Let’ face it – TeapubliEvangeliGunLovers can only handle bumper stickers when reading.

    • “Maybe we should pass a law to have all the pisser hoses cut off?”
      heheh. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

      • I thought you would appreciate that line……

      • rick liebst

        Hey I didn’t kick your dog! Leave my pisser hose alone…

      • RD – I was referring to the contestants in line for the pissing contest…..

        and I don’t see you in that line.. you’ve got too much intelligence for that line.

        Sorry, if I offended any and all pisser hose owners…

      • rick liebst

        Heee just having fun no offense taken besides these day I am not sure if I would miss it that much. Don’t mean to offend either but I am reminded of a ole joke: Use to be I had to put it under a three rail fence to keep from pissing in my face… Now a days I have to hang it over the top rail to keep from pissing in my boots!

    • I’m happy the last suspect was captured alive and, like you, I hope some information can be learned about their motivation and whether they were part of a larger organization. Whatever might be learned won’t sway the idiots who’ve already chosen what they want to believe.

      Have you heard / read some of the idiots and what they’ve dreamed up as their choice of what went down? One I read last night started out with the idiot posting saying how sad it was that people were standing in the streets cheering the death of a 19 year old man. Someone responded that he was captured alive. The idiot went on to say he would be killed before he could answer a single question. He said President Obama (he, of course, had a different way of referring to our president) had already ordered his death and from the beginning Obama designed this entire thing to have an excuse to expand The Patriot Act and other more egregious acts of controlling the citizenry. It is so tiresome and pointless. that the crazy continues to ramp up the longer Obama is president.

      President Obama seems to have as much power as gays! 🙂 It’s a wonder they don’t all wear special magic capes that indicate their super powers.

      I think manhunts will be different from here on. Isn’t it amazing when you stop and realize how much has been improved under the leadership of President Obama? He does his job, he’s there and all the resources needed come with him. Working together is refreshing and the way to get it done. You’re absolutely correct about our current president not waiting to get the call — he makes the call and gets assistance for Americans underway. He doesn’t stop to determine the politics when Americans is who we are in the time of any tragedy. I was pleased to hear him say last night that the people in West, Texas, would receive all the help needed and he never once mentioned the greedy private corporation.

      • I hope President Obama does to this fertilizer corporation what he did to BP when their oil spill disaster happened – to set up a fund to help pay for the damages they’ve caused.

        And then – just watch the Texas REPUKES who are now with both their hands held out for federal aid will demonize Obama as the Chicago Gangsta Thug picking on a corporation.

        Hey – when a corporation is now considered to be a person – that label brings with it RESPONSIBILITIES..

        Time for this corporation – and their puppet Texas REPUKE politicians to put on their big boy pants….

  5. Adolphus Busch IV, heir to the Busch family brewing fortune, resigned his lifetime membership in the National Rifle Association on Thursday, writing in a letter to NRA President David Keene, “I fail to see how the NRA can disregard the overwhelming will of its members who see background checks as reasonable.”

    The resignation came a day after the Senate rejected a series of amendments to a gun control bill, including a bipartisan deal to expand background checks for gun sales. The NRA had vigorously opposed all those measures.

    “The NRA I see today has undermined the values upon which it was established,” wrote Busch. “Your current strategic focus clearly places priority on the needs of gun and ammunition manufacturers while disregarding the opinions of your 4 million individual members.”

    Reached for comment on Busch’s resignation, NRA spokesman Andrew Arulanandam told The Huffington Post, “We disagree with his characterization, but we wish him all the best.”

  6. Here’s another where they hook Benghazi in. Yep! Now it’s the Benghazi Boston Conspiracy. The link I post is full of other links and you could explore the depths of their idiocy. Be afraid, very afraid!

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    (from the link): Glenn Beck has wasted no time joining his pal Alex Jones on the conspiracy train. How long will it take to filter into Congress?

    Via RightWingWatch:

    Beck then went on to send a semi-coded message to those in the upper level of the government warning that they had better come clean about this Saudi national because The Blaze has information that reveals that he “is a very bad, bad, bad man” which will be revealed on Monday.

    “I don’t bluff,” Beck stated, “I make promises. The truth matters. I’ve had enough of what you’ve done to our country. I thought I had heard and seen it all. I thought I didn’t trust my government. Oh no, no, no. There is no depth that these people will not stoop to. They have until Monday and then The Blaze will expose it.”

    This conspiracy theory comes out of the rumors emerging about the Saudi national who was fingered by the media on Monday after the bombings and later found not to be a suspect. Beck and his pals have decided there’s a coverup because he has some kind of relationship to the Benghazi tragedy in September.

    This is little more than an attempt to use the current tragedy to flog the past because it works politically for the extreme right wing. They can link up scary brown people with Russians! Because…scary.

    http://crooksandliars.com/karoli/glenn-beck-government-has-until-monday-come

    • Why weren’t Beck and his Becksters this outraged when many more Americans were killed in embassy attacks under their Little Cowboy President?

      Hmmmmm….do you think it’s because that would have NOT brought them the big bucks they were drawing in at the time?

      Yeah……..IOKIYAR

  7. Okay, that’s it for me. No more delving into stupidity! A ‘short list’ of stupid conspiracy theories and even more stupid statements from the far right doesn’t exist. Nope, it’s a very long one. There are many great things being accomplished by our government and her citizens, so I’ll leave the crazies to their arguing over whether the President is a socialist, Muslim, atheist, or communist, and yes, Hawaii really is part of America.

    • I know what you mean about the crazy world…….but they’re like a train wreck.

      I am still waiting to hear when the demonization of Fox News for reporting a false story begins…..

      Remember when Fox News, followed by CNN, reported there was an arrest made…….

      So – in the interest of being fair and balanced – when these same Foxxie viewers demonized Dan Rather for having one false fact about George W. Bush’s National Guard service (and they ruined his career) – then isn’t it fair to ruin the career of all those on Fox News that reported that false fact of the arrest?

      All one had to do was to call the FBI to confirm that story……and they chose NOT to do so…..obviously…

      • I still laugh each time news is reported, changed to meet what we learned since the last report, followed by ongoing changes as more is learned. It happens with each news story! And each time I remember how the crazies are still banging their drums about the reports that changed after the initial reports were made, and different words were used or not used, with regard to Benghazi. They have to be pretty stupid to think the rest of us are as stupid as they are.

  8. As for Glenn Beck……..one can make a lot of money off the crazies in this world. Isn’t Beck proof of that?

  9. Here’s something to cheer us up on this day. I meant to post it earlier, but, well, my memory somehow failed me. hee hee hee.

    HAPPY 420!

    http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/bl-marijuana.htm?x=331&y=86&PS=535%3A39f

    Imagine if weed and gay marriage were legal and assault weapons and corporate malfeasance were not?

  10. Jim wright who IS Stonekettle Station has also had ENOUGH from those who would conspire, would go onandon, would “Because…scary.” He posted this to his Facebook Page:

    We are shaped by our experiences.

    It may be that I see things differently than many of you because I’ve spent a significant amount of time in places where 18 and 19 year old kids carry guns and kill people. Africa, Asia, the Middle East, South America, Los Angeles, and the US Military.

    Many of you are sympathizing with Dzhokhar Tsarnaev simply because he’s a young man, 19, innocent and happy looking in his photos. You’ve reasoned that he can’t be a murderer, an extremist, not really. He’s just a kid. It must be the older brother, Tamerlan.

    Perhaps. And yet you have no proof of that. At all.

    I’m not saying that you’re wrong, indeed you may all be correct. Time will tell.

    However, I’ve spent time in places where 19 qualifies you as old. One thing I would say, even in America, regardless of who the mastermind was is this case, 19 is more than old enough to know right from wrong. This young man knew that people would die and be maimed, there is no way that he could NOT have known – they weren’t filling those pressure cookers with marshmallows after all. They deliberately set out to kill and maim and inflict terror. In Iraq, in Afghanistan, in Chechnya, men of 19 or younger build and deploy IED’s every single day. They are not children, and they know exactly what they are doing.

    However, if what you suspect is true, if Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was compelled out of some misplaced loyalty to his brother, he is still fully responsible for his own actions. He could have alerted authorities, he could turned his brother in, he could have done any number of things to stop the bombing. He didn’t.

    19 is more than old enough to be held to account for your actions, even unto death, we demand no less from our own young men and women in uniform.

    Again, our viewpoints are shaped by our experiences. While I might sympathize with your position, and understand it, and respect it, and even admire you for it, I’ve seen far too many young men with guns not to know that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev knew exactly what he was doing. And that he should, if found guilty, pay the full measure demanded by law.

    • Sadly, in America young people carry guns and kill people too. We call them gang members or criminals or murderers. Only to idiots does the term ‘terrorist’ need to be used to denote some significant difference. Oh, and then there are those who suffer mental illness which seems to make yet another significant difference to these idiots who keep score and make everything political. It’s sad and certainly tells me a lot — about them, not the murderers by whatever name is used.

  11. Giggles and grins 🙂

    The Problem with One-Night Stands in Locked-Down Boston

    Read more: One Night Stand in Wartime – Attacks on Boston – Esquire http://www.esquire.com/blogs/culture/lust-during-wartime#ixzz2R24Jhv1U

  12. Yep, it’s the truth and nothing but the truth. Will any right-wing evangelicons or gun nuts or brain-washed idiots (am I being redundant) believe the truth?

    • But if this was acknowledged as the truth – then these Far Right Winger Evangelicons could not fill their collection plates every Sunday with all that tax-free money that is being driven by pure fear….

      Plus……then these Far Right Wingers could not whine and cry about their perceived persecution just because they are Christians..

      Or – maybe – it is just that if the truth is told…..then these Far Right Wingers could no longer be jumping in that line of their spot in the pissing contest….

      Sorry, RD, I don’t mean you….