Friday, 2/15/13, Public Square

trayvon martin


by | February 15, 2013 · 6:00 am

24 responses to “Friday, 2/15/13, Public Square

  1. Nailed it again. The poor kid is in trouble now for walking while black or brown.

    Sometimes it seems our country hasn’t learned a damned thing in over 200 years.

    • Freedomwriter

      Sad, but true. This cartoon points out two societal problems we are facing. Racial profiling and gun advocates taking things to an extreme! Why do they want to make the USA look and feel like a lawless country. Just take a look at those parts of the world in which guns are carried openly. They are the most dangerous places in the world. Do we really want to have to walk around with an AD-47 strapped over our shoulder?

      • Freedomwriter

        Typo: AK-47 not AD-47

      • indypendent

        I am starting to believe I should carry an AK-47 strapped over my shoulder – just to protect myself from these folks who think they are the only damn patriots in this damn country.

        Well – an AK-47 will have to suffice until my personal drone arrives from the catalog I just found on the Internet..

    • rick liebst

      It is such a concern for me, my granddaughters being of mixed race. I at times fear if the time occurs that I am there when some ignorant fool somehow thinks that are intitled to put them down. There are innocent and te world is not always kind to the innocent.

      • It breaks my heart to think anyone is capable of seeing a child as anything more or less than A CHILD, a wondrous miracle, and proof that life goes on.

        Cue all the hateful thoughts about the mass of cells some people insist is a child… Oft times the very same people who won’t accept a person who is different — skin color, nationality, creed, political opinion, religious beliefs…

    • Bob White

      Agree,Pond. But how do we account for the fact that it just keeps getting worse?

  2. indypendent

    As for racial profiling being wrong – slavery was wrong also but we still have slavery today….

    if you doubt that – just take a good look at these corporations that treat their employees like a piece of disposable dirt……

    and then you can also thank the stockholders (Democrats and Republicans) for encouraging the mistreatment of employees.

    All is fair in the Vulture Game of making profits at all costs – that’s the American Way – isn’t it?

    I am starting to think I will join these vultures – they seem to be winning.

    • indypendent

      BTW – as for those greedy stockholders – it is all legal because it is justified –the CEO has a legal and moral ‘duty’ to get the most profits for their stockholders.

      So – that makes it okay with God also – doesn’t it?

  3. indypendent

    We are on a paperless billing for our monthly utilitites from the city we live in up north of Wichita.

    There was a note on yesterday’s e-billing statement in which al new customers to sign up for e-billing will get $5 off their next month’s billing if they sign up.

    Okay – that’s nice – but what about those customers who signed up for this very same program 2 years ago when the program was first introduced? We got nothing……so I asked the city if the current customers also got the $5 off.

    The answer was ‘NO’……

    Okay – fine – then this morning I requested to be put back on the paper billing method and now the city will have to spend the money to print the damn bill and then pay the postage to send the damn bill.

    Hey – if that’s the way this city treats their citizens that have helped them to save the printing and postage costs for the past two years to help them save expenses – then so be it.

    At least now with the taxes this city has imposed on me – as their citizen – they will be forced to pay for a damn postage stamp and the paper/ink to print the damn utility bill.

    This is exactly how I feel about everything now – I have learned from the best teachers- Teapublcans, Fundy Christians, Catholics, Gun Nuts – that the only way to get what you want in this world is to be the biggest asshole you can…

    And – just wait folks – I can be one of the biggest assholes there are around – if I set my mind to it.

    This Critters have won – they have convinced me that I need to be just as uncaring as they are – this should be fun…

  4. indypendent

    You know the old saying – there’s more than one way to skin a polecat?

    Man – I can think of several ways………..and none of them are pretty.

  5. indypendent

    This must be my week to be harassed by idiots – no wonder I am in a foul mood and ready to give in to the idiocy which we call our exceptional country.

    For the past two weeks – I have been receiving a call from the same toll-free phone number – at the same time – every single day. I have not answered these calls because I don’t talk to any telemarketers – and since I did not know this number – I really don’t pick them up.

    Well -yesterday – just like clockwork – another call came in from this same damn number.

    Since I had already had it out with my devoted Catholic friend and decided to bring our 15-year friendship to an end – all due to her incessant forwarding of those ridiculous politcal and God-related emails – I answered the phone call this time.

    It was Cox Communications. Damn…..I knew it was a telemarketer. We do not have Cox television. We do use Cox for our Internet services – but the service is lousy and then their customer service is worse than that.

    Anyway – I asked to be taken off their call list – and the woman reluctantly did so. She then asked what state I was in – and I asked her – what state are you in?

    She replied – California.

    WTF……So is this why Cox cannot seem to reduce my billing for lousy service because they are paying some yahoo company in California to handle their harassing telemarketing calls?

    But – I’m sure – there is a CEO somewhere fulfilling their legal and moral duty to make more profits – at any costs.

    The cost of their harassment is me looking to change over to another Internet provider.

    So – exactly where is the more profit going to come – if more customers are like me and they finally get their fill of this all Corporate Crappola?

    Direct TV is another corporation that gives all the good deals to new customers and lets the devoted long-time customer pay for everyone else’s good deals.

    Is this really what our country needs – corporate critters that don’t give a damn about the main source of their income – the customers who have been there for a long, long time?

    Well – but then again – it should make my heart feel warm all over because I know somewhere in some Corporate Boardroom – some CEO will be rewarded with an extra million or two in his bonus check because he fulfilled his legal and moral duty to bring in more profits – even if that means to treat your long-time customers like the same disposable dirt that they treat their employees.

    That’s the current American Way……and this is exceptional?

    • rick liebst

      I generally have such fun with telemarketers. Playing the dimwitted fool or if they truly get abusive the informing them that in general society would have more respect for them if they were to sell sexual favors on the street corner on South Broudway.

    • Legal duty only, indy. No moral duty is relevant.

  6. The Surprising Brain Differences Between Democrats and Republicans
    Two new studies further support the theory that our political decision making could have a neurological basis.

    • Bob White

      Very interesting. Now, if we can just get people to recognize this difference as between, “Healthy” vs “Sicko”.

  7. If this has been discussed, I apologize.

    Somewhere today, I heard about an intersting legal case arising somewhere. Simply, a teenage girl (unmarried) is pregnant. Her parents want her to have an abortion. The young woman wants to keep her baby. The parties are in court, and a decision is expected soon.

    Now, I feel safe in offering the opinion that the trial judge will rule in the young woman’s favor. I see no other logical outcome (but knowing how uncertain trying to predict a judge’s decision is, I should not be so certain). However, in contemplating this, I recognized a conundrum that the fundamental, evangelical types (if they are honest) are facing.

    As we know, these folks (generally) believe an abortion is murder. This violates one of the Ten Commandments. But, the parents want the abortion; thus, in wanting to keep the baby, does not the teenager violate another commandment, namely the one about honoring the father and mother? Which one takes precedence? Is there a way to apply an Old Testament balancing test, akin to the one SCOTUS has applied in determining conflicts between Constitutional Amendments (freedom of the press versus the right to a fair jury trial)?

    It seems to me that there should be heads exploding (figuratively) in the social conservatiuve community, if the members thereof are honest in their beliefs. However, I’v not heard/read a peep out of such. Any thoughts, or is my headache from considering this just the result of my imagining a conflict?

    • You’re surprised that religious beliefs contradict one another? Ah, come on, 6176, it happens everyday.

      Think about the Pope coming down hard on the nuns for paying too much attention to feeding the poor when they should have been concentrating on fighting abortion.

      Think about the hypocrites who use their Bible to preach male superiority, female submission.

      And then we get to money. They’ll all tell you they follow the teachings of Jesus. yeah, right. [eye roll] The money changers in the temple, the eye of that camel, treat others as you would like to be treated…

      No abortion in any circumstances including the life of the mother. Even the sanctimonious Santorums couldn’t quite live up to what they say they want to be law in every other case. Yeah, let other mothers die, but save Rick Santorum’s wife.

      Maybe I misunderstood what you were saying. But if you mix up man’s law and god’s law everything becomes even more difficult — whose interpretation do you use ON EITHER type of law? Man’s law uses Courts, precedents, decisions supposedly on what the Constitution says and that’s no different than deciphering a verse one way or another and making it the doctrine to follow and the only true way to interpret the holy book that is law.

      Look at the mess the religious folks make of the book of Leviticus — some of it is used to excuse their hate and intolerance of gays while other parts of the same book are old school now, replaced with the new way to go (afer all, bunch of people find shrimp tasty…). Yeah, right! It takes a real special kind of low info person to buy into that. Heads don’t explode in the social conservative community because theirs is a ‘don’t think about it, just believe’ world.

    • You have well illustrated the basic point I was trying to make, fnord; that regardless of how they decide on this, they will come off as hypocrites. Thus, the silence of those who clamor for parental consent laws, as the parents do not consent to the young woman’s decision to keep the baby. Similarly, the silence from the anti-abortion crowd, as the young woman is defying her parents.

      The silence from each explains the total silence from “that side of the fence”, because should anyone of that ilk voice support for either side of this litigation, they run the risk of opprobrium from someone “on their side except this time”.

      Of course, the pro-choice tone of the media discussion (think I left that bit out) of this case when it was discussed cannot be acknowledged, either; for to give any credence to the young woman’s right to make a choice, even though it is to keep the baby, cannot be done, because to the social conservative set, pro-choice only means pro-abortion. That’s why I keep hoping to see some heads explode (I know, I’m not very nice).

      There are likely those “on the (far) right” who wish the girl would have the child but put it up for adoption, an option that appears to me to be unavailable here. I applaud the girl for obtaining counsel to pursue her rights, likely Legal Services (guessing), which is also on the “bad list”. Pass the popcorn; this will likely get good, assuming any further media coverage is had.

  8. How’s this for hypocritical activity? Rape the earth is another of the causes social conservatives believe in. Get those profits up for the billionaires while killing the earth and the life it supports; go to church and pray. Don’t ask questions, just B.E.L.I.E.V.E.

    Secret funding helped build vast network of climate denial thinktanks

    Anonymous billionaires donated $120m to more than 100 anti-climate groups working to discredit climate change science

  9. Here’s the kind of prayer a loving God would teach and His followers would pray.

  10. House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), talking to CBS News yesterday, on automatic sequestration cuts:

    “Don’t forget it’s the president who first proposed the sequester,” Ryan continued. “It’s the president who designed the sequester as it is now designed.”

    House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), talking to Fox News in August 2011, on automatic sequestration cuts:

    “What conservatives like me have been fighting for, for years are statutory caps on spending, legal caps in law that says government agencies cannot spend over a set amount of money. And if they breach that amount across the board, sequester comes in to cut that spending, and you can’t turn that off without a supermajority vote. We got that in law. That is here.”

    These can’t both be true. Either, as Paul Ryan said at the time, Republicans got the sequester in law, or this is all President Obama’s idea.

    • Ryan has a convenient memory. The 2011 statement is accurate, IIRC. The sequester was negotiated, to be sure, but to place the blame solely upon the President is disingenuous, at best.