Thursday, 12/27/12, Public Square

1st and 2nd amendmentss

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by | December 27, 2012 · 6:00 am

23 responses to “Thursday, 12/27/12, Public Square

  1. The folks who want every American armed with an assault weapons are the same folks that believe if you wear a hat with teabags stapled to it, you can bully your way into every political debate.

    But yet those who disagree with them are not ‘real’ Americans or ‘not one of us’.

    It’s that old Puritan thinking – Rules for Thee but Not for Me.

    • Aren’t they also the same people who question the dignity and worth of all people? Aren’t ‘they’ better and more deserving than gays, people of color and those who are poor? Probably your “not one of us,” description covers it.

      I’m pretty sick of them.

      • I suspect if these folks keep on going in their current ways (and there is no indication they have changed their course) – alot of people are going to be pretty sick of them…

  2. Here’s an article about what the republicans did to the people of Georgia. Read it and know this is the future of Kansas. These are the consequences of austerity. This is what those ‘superior’ republican teavangelicals want. Isn’t that real ‘christian’ of them…

    Georgia’s Hunger Games
    Fewer than 4,000 adults in the southern state receive welfare, even as poverty is soaring. How Georgia declared war on its poorest citizens—leaving them to fight for themselves.
    http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2012/12/georgia_s_war_against_the_poor_the_southern_state_is_emptying_its_welfare.html

    • I’ve been in Georgia…I went to college with kids from Georgia. And there is one thing I do know about Georgia – and they have alot of these Fundy Christian Churches down there.

      There are several huge mega churches in Georgia.

      So, my next question should be no surprise – what have these church people done to help the poor, hungry and homeless in Georgia?

      Or, are these folks too busy cheering and applauding Newt Gingrich and all those other good ‘Christian folk’ who must think the Ten Commandments does not say it is a sin to commit adultery?

      Just asking…

    • 01.If all the nations in the world are in debt(i am not joking. Even US has got debts), where did all the money go? (weird). Not a stupid question at all.

      Hong Kong: $121.9 billion (0.9 percent)
      Caribbean banking centers: $148.3 (1 percent)
      Taiwan: $153.4 billion (1.1 percent)
      Brazil: $211.4 billion (1.5 percent)
      Oil exporting countries: $229.8 billion (1.6 percent)
      Mutual funds: $300.5 billion (2 percent)
      Commercial banks: $301.8 billion (2.1 percent)
      State, local and federal retirement funds: $320.9 billion (2.2 percent)
      Money market mutual funds: $337.7 billion (2.4 percent)
      United Kingdom: $346.5 billion (2.4 percent)
      Private pension funds: $504.7 billion (3.5 percent)
      State and local governments: $506.1 billion (3.5 percent)
      Japan: $912.4 billion (6.4 percent)
      U.S. households: $959.4 billion (6.6 percent)
      China: $1.16 trillion (8 percent)
      The U.S. Treasury: $1.63 trillion (11.3 percent)
      Social Security trust fund: $2.67 trillion (19 percent)

      So America owes foreigners about $4.5 trillion in debt. But America owes America $9.8 trillion.

    • P.S. No wonder the plutocratic weasels are doing everything they can pretend that Social Security is just another expenditure — canceling 2.67 trillion in obligations would free up a lot of money for worthier pursuits, like more tax cuts and perhaps a profitable new ground war.

      • It was no coincidence that both John McCain and Mitt Romney were eager to get to the White House to declare war on Iran…..

        I still remember McCain’s little bomb…bomb…bomb Iran song -don’t you?

  3. Just got a phone call from my mother – and my grandmother died this morning. She turned 98 years old this past August and has been in a nursing home for the past 7 years. She was going blind and couldn’t hear much. Her quality of life had diminished alot in the past year.

    She lived a long life and raised 6 kids and they are all productive citizens – is there anything more that she could have done better?

    This is the grandmother I was talking about the other day – making the chicken and noodles from scratch.

    Grandma is now with my Grandpa – and that is a comforting thought. And she is in no pain anymore – that is a blessing.

    You know folks, this may sound cold and callous – but there are worse things than death. And if you’ve worked in the healthcare field as much as I have, you’ve seen it.

    That does not mean I do not value life – it simply means that some times life at all costs is not such a good thing.

    My grandmother did not want to all the life-saving measures to be taken….and in the end, she quietly passed in her bed with her family around her. What better way can our prayers be answered?

  4. Oh Indy, I’m so sorry. She would be happy to know you immortalized her on the internet with your stories. I used to take seminars from a group called Landmark Education and they always said the only way we really live on after death is in the speaking of other people. So… every time you tell a story about her, or write about her, she lives on.

    And I concur with you and 617. There are some things that are waaaay more horrible than death, like lingering three years and suffering as my mother did post stroke. It was just a plain relief when she passed on, so I’m glad your grandmother did not have to suffer much or long. At least I hope that is true.

    I meant to say this the other day following the chicken and noodles tale and the story about your grandfather’s car. Heck, I could smell the chicken and noodles and see your grandfather smiling in the rear view mirror. You took me right there.

    You are a great writer, and should consider writing all these stories and more so they are available for your kids and grandkids and anyone else in the family who might be interested. Even if they are not so interested now, they will be later.

    You write with clarity and authenticity, and those make such stories all the more valuable. You have heart, Indy, which is why we love you and why you can write so lovingly about your friends and family.

    I’m sure Wicked would agree. Write, Indy. WRITE!

    • Thanks Prairie Pond….you brought happy tears to my eyes with your kind words…

      I’ve alway been told I am a glue person……you know what that means, I’m sure.

      Even though I get going on my stories about these Fundy Evangelicals and my days at that Baptist College – but hell, even they are funny stories!

      You’ve just given me my first resolution for the new year 2013 …..I need to sit down and W-R-I-T-E….

  5. Hey Fnord, thanks for the trip down memory lane with the 2009 link. I also wonder where some of those folks are, and how they are doing. And like I always say, I miss Iggy very much. That thread once again proved how much he cared about people, even when he was annoyed with them.

    I’m Prairie Pond and I’ve been TBTSNBN free for.. uh, years!

    • I enjoyed that post also, fnord. I have never met any of you on this blog in person – but I feel I know you all so well.

      Sometimes I think we put down into words what we really want to say in person but for whatever reason, we hold back if face to face?

  6. I’m sorry for your loss, Indy. Even when we know our loved one beat the odds and lived a long good life we still go through the missing, grieving process. I hope your Mother and her siblings find comfort.

    This place that Steven gave us leaves me speechless some days. It’s special, all of YOU are special. This is one of those days when words don’t come easily.

  7. Yeah, we are all damn lucky to have each other. I feel closer to some of you than I do to my friends in “meat space” as Tracy used to say. I wonder how he is, how his dad and mom are, and what he’s up to. He’s a great guy.

    This people who populate PPP always remind me of Shakespeare’s St. Crispin’s Day Speech. The last part is here.

    ” From this day to the ending of the world,
    But we in it shall be remembered-
    We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
    For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
    Shall be my brother; be he ne’er so vile,
    This day shall gentle his condition;
    And gentlemen in England now-a-bed
    Shall think themselves accurs’d they were not here,
    And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
    That fought with us upon Saint Crispin’s day.”

    I’d paraphrase and say “those who do not blog with us or learn to love each other here, they shall hold their heads down low when asked why they did not share with us in Iggy’s honored space.”