Friday, 12/21/12, Public Square

end of world


by | December 21, 2012 · 6:00 am

33 responses to “Friday, 12/21/12, Public Square

  1. Since the House of Rep. can’t do it’s job, would you like to take a try? Here’s a fun holiday game to try your own hand at fixing the fiscal problem. Embeded is a neat little calculator that lets you put your favorite things in, and see what it does to clean up our fiscal mess. Too bad Boehner and company can’t even play the game with all their toys and tools.

    And for added fun, see what happened when a blogger plugged in all our liberal wishes and wants.

    Gotta love Atrios

  2. Would it be too much to ask that this next b’ak’tun be better for the planet and all living things than the last b’ak’tun has been?

    Just askin’…..

    • rick liebst

      Why not? even a total fool can be right on occations if they keep shooting out answers to any question. LOL if everyday is Tuesday to you… You will be right at least once a week and most months at least four times a month…

  3. Is everyone hyped to hear the NRA tell us the recent shooting had nothing to do with guns? [eye roll] We could take wagers on how many different ways they’ll say the same thing. And, we could also wager on the methods they’ll use to corral their followers with fear. I’m betting their solution will be buying more guns and ammunition!

    • Yep, more guns! Ban the media and the gaming industry and be afraid, very afraid.

      The NRA has one set of words and they scrabble them to say the same things every time.

      • We’re ALL targets! We ALL need to carry a gun at all times! The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun! YOU ARE A TARGET! YOU MUST CARRY A GUN!

        And yet, he wouldn’t even answer questions. All he was capable of doing was trying to tell the weak minded they can be strong only if they carry a gun!

        Did the Doofus make you afraid? Very afraid? He screwed up his forehead and made his voice sound really sincere while he delivered his commercial that he wants to call a press conference.

    • If the NRA wants armed policemen in schools – then are THEY going to pay for this?

      Or their Tea Party Mad Hatters, Birthers, Fundy Christian CONServative Republicans?

      Hell….Boehner cannot even get the above folks together in his one caucus…..

      The current GOP is certainly a sad commentary on how country…

    • rick liebst

      Of course and I am sure the gun industry is involved in the hype. The simple fact is that there is only so much demand for the likes of a AR15. They are not all that practicial as a hunting weapon or for shooting for that much. The knock offs of AK47 are some of the less actuate of all rifles. That is the point in the large count clips it you are able to throw out enough bullets to finally hit someothing.

  4. Somehad had brought this up last week…..when drunk driving became a national issue – and laws got tougher – was when the WOMEN of America got together and said ‘ Oh Hell NO’……

    MADD – Mothers Against Drunk Driving.

    Maybe it’s time the WOMEN have their say – and back it up with voting for our first qualified female president….

  5. I listened to John Boehner try to spin his failure at getting his caucus to agree to a budget deal.

    Did you see how he scrunched up his forehead when he tried to say that if his Plan B was not passed, then Obama would be known as the person that raised taxes on all Americans?

    Oh, let’s not forget, Johnny B. also threw in the GOP talking point of not ever raising taxes on the job creators that would harm the economy.

    Excuse me, but wasn’t Johnny B and his Merry Band of Reverse-Robin Hoods the same folks who appaluded George W. Bush when he put those two wars on the credit card, gave us the Medicare Drug Program with no funding and many other crappola?

    These folks are not to be taken serious……at least by those with one working brain cell.

    • The democrats will have a bill to lower taxes on everyone except those making above $250,000 ($200,000 for an individual) ready on the first day after the Christmas break, and it will be retroactive. The legislation is probably already written. Let’s watch the teapublicans vote against that bill and talk about who voters blame.

      Meanwhile Americans get cuts to the Military Industrial Complex! 🙂

      Then we move forward, leaving the republicans in the dust while we get busy.

  6. I just had a thought…..these NRA folks are now blaming the video gaming industry and movies for the violence in our society?

    Hey – werent’t these the same folks who demonized Tipper Gore when she made it her cause to clean up the video and movie industry – and all she demanded was that they put labels on their products.

    IIRC – these same Republicans blew a gasket to think that Tipper Gore actually wanted to impede their freedom of speech, the free market, capitalism and actually the way they talked – Tipper Gore was taking on God himself by trying to usurp his role as judge and juror.

    My…oh my…..what a difference from then and now…..

    BTW – I wonder why Mr. NRA did not include the Hate Talk Radio constant hate-filled rhetoric and these Religious Leaders who have routinely called Obama a Socialist that is out to destroy America? He is not just someone with different political ideas – these folks have labeled him a DESTROYER of America. So – why wouldn’t someone with a bunch of guns want to sign up and go fight the good fight as presented by these misguided partisan political hacks?

    .This is an area where I think that coach that gave that passionate speech the other day (I posted that link yesterday, I think) can teach Mr. NRA and his co-horts a thing or two.

    Even if you did not vote for Obama – he IS your president now. He is the leader.

    If you feel you cannot live with that – then perhaps another location where violence and hate is welcomed ( such as Iran, Syria, Afghanistan, Pakistan – to name a few) would be more to your taste of where to live?

    There are planes leaving America everyday with connections to those countries – PICK one…

    • Yes, and in the commercial which the NRA wants us to think was a press conference this morning they also called for a registry of mentally ill people. The last stance they took was against this! They must have been watching Romney closely and learned flip flopping from the expert!

      He sounded pretty desperate and wants other people to be as big a scaredy cat wuzz as he is. He talked about the FOUR MILLION NRA members and I thought to myself how President Obama won the popular vote by a larger margin than that number!

      • Now, Obama just needs to ACT like he won the popular vote by that much, and he needs to remember why!

      • PP – I think maybe this latest shooting in Newtown might have been the tipping point for Obama to fight the NRA about gun control.

        But ….the budget deal……I suspect Obama is too willing to still try to compromise with the GOP….. exactly how does one compromise witha bunch of rabid snakes?

  7. That NRA speech was one of the sorriest pieces of crap I’ve ever heard spewed on the national stage. WTF? The answer is EVERYONE needs a gun? Cha Ching Cha Ching for the gun and ammo makers and dealers.

    We know who the NRA serves. See above if you are unsure.

    And… good on Code Pink. The NRA press conference was OCCUPIED!

    • Maybe we need to start a petition drive for the sensible gun owners to cancel their membership to the NRA and start their own group?

      I have no problem with a hunter or sportsman having a gun. I grew up with guns – but it was certainly treated with caution and respect because we all knew it was a dangerous thing to have around the house. But my family members all hunted…..and they certainly did not have any assault weapons or high-capacity ammunition.

  8. Grover Norquist said one time that if the unthinkable happened, that there was not a “permanent Republican majority” as KKKarl Rove promised, then they would ratphuck things so that Democrats would be unable to govern as Democrats.

    SMDH. After last night’s Plan B debacle, it looks like REPUBLICANS are unable to govern. A lesson in “be careful what you ask for.” Or, as we say around here, “Karma, she’s a bitch.”

    I still say progressive Democrats, the few that are actually around, need to watch Obama like a hawk and there needs to be, as was said on DU today, an UPRISING to make sure Obama and now Pelosi do NOT cut Social Security or Medicare in any way. The Chained CPI needs to be buried with Plan B. I have no idea why, but Obama seems determined to undermine SS. It defies all logic after this election and what the polls say since.

    Note to the preznit, if the opposition is busy committing suicide, do not interrupt them or save them. Let them do it and don’t rush in to breathe life into a dying party by voluntarily taking on the mantle of the person who cut SS and/or Medicare.

    • Bob White

      Agreed. And watch him closely. He is “no” fighter! And, problematic, he is no “negotiator,” either. Yes, I voted for him, too. What choice did we have? Where was the progressive?

      • Yeah, Bob, that make me crazy that we never have a real choice. No progressive ever makes it out of the Democratic primary, just like no moderate ever makes it out of the Republican primary.

  9. I don’t normally watch Morning Joe. I prefer Stephanie Miller, my secret girl crush along with Rachel Maddow and Barbara Stanwyck. 🙂

    Anyway… a friend of mine DOES what Morning Schmoe and sent me this link with the interview he did this morning with Kansas’ very own Timmy Huelskamp. OMG. As she said, it was another Fred Phelps moment for Kansas. As a state, we should hang our heads in shame that we let nut jobs like Timmy represent us. But as I told my friend, the real shameful part is that he is indeed the true face of Kansas. The majority of his constituents feel the same wacky way he does. We are a state of nut jobs.

    Long, but worth the listen. I wonder if you will be as horrified about him as I was. The interview was about taxes, spending, and guns.

    • I saw this on the Huffington Post blog today. Timmie….Timmie….Timmie…..Jewsus wept.

    • Bob White

      You’re right, again. It would be bad enough if it were just “Kansas Congressional District One,” but it is a problem statewide according to Thomas Franks’, “What’s the Matter With Kansas.” Franks nailed Kansas’ problem a decade ago and nothing will ever change it. That is Kansas.

  10. …and while the insane NRA presser was going on, this was also happening.

    But oh, no. We don’t have a gun problem.

  11. I think the whole freakin’ world is crazy. And Kansas is ground zero for teh crazy.

    • I thought the Mayan Calendar had predicted a new era of enlightment was going to happen starting today?

      Maybe the kickoff was that big revolt by Boehner’s caucus last night? The more these Republicans fight tooth and nail to protect their real base – the 1% wealthiest and gun manufacturers – the more Americans will look at them with disgust ….

      The Congress Approval rating is already at 14% – how much lower do you predict this will go before all is said and done?

      Hopefully, this will come true….

    • Bob White

      “Yes!!” Take a look at our governor who was elected ‘overwhelmingly.’

  12. The only way the current NRA is going to change is when those 4 million members start pulling their money and cancelling their memberships effective immediately.

    This NRA group is no different than the Radial Islamists and the Radical Christians – and both of these groups need to have their moderate members kick these Radicals to the curb.

  13. I don’t know how many of you get Current TV, (It’s channel 358 on Direct TV) but Bowling for Columbine is on at five pm our time. If you need some thoughtful and yet entertaining analysis about guns and violence in American, don’t miss it. If you miss it tonight, rent it asap. You’ll be glad you did.

  14. NRA logic: kids play too many video games with guns in them. We need more guns in every school.

    For those wondering what defines an “assault weapon,” here’s what became law in 1994:

    (a) Any of the firearms, or copies or duplicates of the firearms in any caliber, known as:

    (1) Norinco, Mitchell, and Poly Technologies Avtomat Kalashnikovs
    (all models),

    (2) Action Arms Israeli Military Industries UZI and Galil,

    (3) Beretta Ar70 (SC-70),

    (4) Colt AR-15,

    (5) Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, and FNC,

    (6) SWD M-10, M-11, M-11/9, and M-12,

    (7) Steyr AUG,

    (8) INTRATEC TEC-9, TEC-DC9 and TEC-22, and

    (9) Revolving cylinder shotguns, such as (or similar to) the Street
    Sweeper and Striker 12;

    (b) A semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept a
    detachable magazine and has at least 2 of–

    (1) A folding or telescoping stock,

    (2) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action
    of the weapon,

    (3) A bayonet mount,

    (4) A flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a
    flash suppressor, and

    (5) A grenade launcher;

    (c) A semiautomatic pistol that has an ability to accept a
    detachable magazine and has at least 2 of–

    (1) An ammunition magazine that attaches to the pistol outside of
    the pistol grip,

    (2) A threaded barrel capable of accepting a barrel extender, flash
    suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer,

    (3) A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely
    encircles, the barrel and that permits the shooter to hold the firearm
    with the nontrigger hand without being burned,

    (4) A manufactured weight of 50 ounces or more when the pistol is
    unloaded, and

    (5) A semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm; and

    (d) A semiautomatic shotgun that has at least 2 of–

    (1) A folding or telescoping stock,

    (2) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action
    of the weapon,

    (3) A fixed magazine capacity in excess of 5 rounds, and

    (4) An ability to accept a detachable magazine.

    Semiautomatic pistol. Any repeating pistol which utilizes a portion
    of the energy of a firing cartridge to extract the fired cartridge case
    and chamber the next round, and which requires a separate pull of the
    trigger to fire each cartridge.

    Semiautomatic shotgun. Any repeating shotgun which utilizes a
    portion of the energy of a firing cartridge to extract the fired
    cartridge case and chamber the next round, and which requires a
    separate pull of the trigger to fire each cartridge.