What if there’s a tie?

By tie, I mean an Electoral College tie. Both President Obama and Gov. Romney end up with 269 electoral voes. Now what?

We have the 12th Amendment to handle this exact situation. I know each of you is able to search the interwebs and read the wording of this yourself, so I’ll skip posting it. Additionally, the language is a bit archaic, and hard to understand. You’re welcome. πŸ™‚

For President, the winner is determined by the House of Pepresentatives; the Vice Presidential winner is decided in the Senate. The procedures are, unsurpringly, different.

If the election is thrown into the Congress, the President is elected by a majority of the states. This means that the Members from each state decide for whom its vote will be cast. The first to 26 wins.

The Vice President is elected by the Senate. Unlike the situation in the House, each Senator has one vote. In this case, the first to 51 wins. In the event of a tie, the President of the Senate (the Vice President) casts the deciding vote.

As is obvious, such a scenario could well result in Gov. Romney’s Election as President, with Vice President Biden reelected to a second term as Vice President. I deeply hope this does not occur, but in light of the closeness of the race, it is possible.

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  1. We just returned home, and I haven’t caught up but it seems lots of races are still “too close to call.” That sounds good to me! It sounds like a good turnout and that’s always good news — no matter who wins I like to see more people participate.

    I talked to my son in Mass and he told me they had very long lines. He’s lived and voted in Mass since 2001 so he knows the difference. They had two ballot questions: one to legalize marijuana and the other a “death with dignity” which allows physicians to prescribe life-ending medicine to dying patients. But he thinks the close Senate race between Brown and Warren also has people motivated.

  2. btw, a tie is unacceptable! But I do thank you for the info! πŸ™‚

    • You’re welcome. BTW, NBC has called Warren as victor in MA.

      Given the extreme close race, I decided to post the above.

      Nurdock projected loser in IN (just called NBC).

      • I was typing while you had posted.

        Oh well, Elizabeth Warren winning was good enough news to post twice.

      • Yeah, well, Mourdock deserved to lose! We can’t continue to go down that road of extremism! Men should clearly understand that women aren’t backing down!

  3. I see the race has been called for Elizabeth Warren.

    Yeah! Hooray!

    America wins on that one!

  4. Okay, the path to 270 further narrows for Romney with Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, New Hampshire already in the Obama column.

  5. If not for the Tea Party there would never have been a Richard Mourdock candidacy for U.S. Senate. Once again the republicans have losers for candidates because of that organization. Will they recognize that? I would have thought Sharron Angle and Christine O’Donnell wold have taught them the lessons they needed.

  6. What about the other radical, Todd Akin? Any results on that race? Just like Harry Reid’s seat, that one should have gone to the republican, but they ran Todd Akin, tea party darlin’.

    There’s a lesson here somewhere. πŸ™‚

  7. It has just been projected that Claire McCaskill will hold her seat. Bye Todd Akin!

    The good news just keeps coming!

    • rd liebst

      That one shows you can not say that most dumb things because you think that the majority of the people are just that dumb and win. Akin was such an moron and most certainly has never even met a woman. Talk to one or had much more of a conversation with a woman then talking to the center fold of a playboy.

  8. We’re posting simultaneously — but we both know good news when we hear it!

  9. Very proud of Maine, electing Angus King, an independent, to replace Olympia Snowe. Have been given some thought to moving there, as I feel comfortable with things there (once the current lunatic governor, who makes Brownback look middle-of-the-road, is defeated).

    • I heard a portion of some news cast recently — about enough to be confused. It had to do with Maine requiring not only a majority but also at least more than 50% of the vote. Do you know anything about this?

      • I don’t know if that’s right. Two years ago, Senator-elect King lost in a three-way race for Governor, and the total he and the other candidate who lost had >60% of the vote between them. The current governor’s name is LePage, who was the Mayor of Waterville when he won the GOP nomination. The younger tells me that the residents of that town were very happy to see him go, but saddened that he won the Gubernatorial election.

    • rd liebst

      Not so sure about how happy to be with the Snowe lost she was a more moderate and sensible Conservative.

  10. Who knew? According to the television women are having an effect on races all across the nation. I guess women DO have a way of shutting that down! πŸ™‚

  11. It’s not even 9:30. I really didn’t think we would have results this early. I was afraid I wouldn’t know TONIGHT, but now it appears many of the “too close to call” races are coming up roses! It seems radical ideas and candidates can’t win!

    • Don’t get too giddy. VA sounds like it may come down to absentee ballots. While I have confidence VA will eventually prove to be irrelevant, I learned long ago that Yogi was correct: “It ain’t over until it’s over”. πŸ™‚

  12. Tammy Duckworth won over Joe Walsh!!!

    Does anyone think this might be a good year to be a woman candidate? I am one very happy camper!

  13. Congressman Alan Grayson (again). Another win that makes me smile.

  14. Tim Kaine beat George Allen. It keeps getting better and better!

  15. Like a bad apple — Salina voters decided we needed to hate gays. Kansans are very disappointing people on the whole! 😦

    • prairie pond

      It will take federal troops, like those sent to Little Rock for integration, to liberate gays in Kansas.

  16. Do you think anyone in the Republican Party recognizes that we aren’t a nation of old white men?

  17. It’s just after 10 pm here and President Obama has been reelected to a second term!

  18. I just want all of us to pause and reflect. For the next four years President Obama will be making Supreme Court nominations! Obamacare will continue to be the law of the land. Income inequality can be addressed. Just maybe our country won’t become a Plutocracy. America wasn’t bought yet — all that money spent and ‘We The People’ decided America would win!

  19. prairie pond

    When I heard the election called, I had to come here. First. I got chills and I have to say I’m a little in shock.

    Hats off to you, Fnord. You always had faith it would turn out this way. And you were right about women voters. I think the number of women elected to the Senate is testament to the women’s vote.

    And.. heheh. Heather Wilson lost in New Mexico and will NOT be in the Senate. Somehow, I think that’s good for women, too. She’s a hateful bitch who was a discredit to women.

  20. prairie pond

    Ok, so that’s all the looking on the bright side for me right now.

    Wanna make book on how long it takes the repuke controlled house to start impeachment proceedings?

    • They have to have something to do and they’ve already proven they have no ideas or solutions that are good for America or her citizens. How much does it cost daily for the House to be in session? We’ll find out and we’ll keep it front and center!

  21. prairie pond

    Can’t wait to hear from Zippy…

  22. Freedomwriter

    Can we all breathe a collective sigh of relief?!!! πŸ™‚

    • More than that! We can giggle!

    • rd liebst

      Man i know I did, I had turned the TV to watch the Big bang so when I turned back I was most interested in the more solid numbers and when I saw? I was shouting “Yes Yes!”. But the other side of the relief came the concern with the other shoe that can fall with the extreme… β€œThe Kennedy solution” I am afraid that it is hard for me to believe the Neo-Conservativeness are all that new they maybe just a lot more open now.

  23. prairie pond

    Hi Rick, Freedom. High fives all around. Big kudos to those of you who always believed.

    • rd liebst

      Pond we won the forces of freedom and what has to be the right of people.
      It is such a long road still and one we must all walk together toward the end and I still have hope we will see I am still worried it won’t be tomorrow I will get to dance at your wedding LOL with the way I dance that might be a great blockage as I can’t dance. A thought more frightening then Gay marriage and rights

      • prairie pond

        Heh, R.D. I can’t dance either. Maybe we can do a sloooow shuffle.

        Maine and Washington apparently passed marriage equality. Salina and Hutch took another hillbilly step back into the dark ages. Like I said, the similarities between Little Rock and Kansas grow deeper every year. As a state, we are irrelevant to the nation, and now even more so. But it matters to those of us who live here.

        I wonder how many people like me are thinking it’s time to get the hell outa Kansas. There’s hope for our country. For a gay person in Kansas? Not so much.

  24. They changed the rules. They wanted you to give up and go home or not even try to vote at all. They did everything they could think of to keep this moment from happening. And now here it is. Hope and change are alive and well. Four more years!

    • rd liebst

      I am ready to go to bed, I cut my finger tip earlier and trying to type with a wad of gaze on my middle finger is maddening. I am needing to get up in the morning to get two of my grandsons off to school and go with my daughter and the third to have surgery. He is severly club footed and their are going to fix that. Poor guy will be in pain and having to be in a wheel chair ofr a bit Love you all and lets get going on the next four years.

  25. http://www.kjonline.com/politics/marriage/Same-sex-marriage-question-challenges-voters-from-the-heart.html

    This was the only link I found, but apparently Question 1 passed. Another reason (among many) why Maine looks better all the time.