Thursday, 10/25/12, Public Square

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by | October 25, 2012 · 6:00 am

28 responses to “Thursday, 10/25/12, Public Square

  1. Every woman must remember when a man says he makes exceptions for rape and incest, that he doesn’t say WHO will decide when rape or incest applies.

    The only thing women know for sure is that it won’t be the pregnant woman who makes that decision. No, women aren’t trusted by republican men. Republican men know more about our bodies, our needs, whether or not we were actually raped and what kind of rape it really was…

    It could be Todd Akin — “If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to shut that whole thing down.”

    It could be Paul Ryan — “Rape is just another method of conception.”

    It could be Richard Mourdock — “Life is a gift from God. Even when life starts in that horrible situation of rape.”

    It could be Mitt Romney who supports PERSONHOOD AMENDMENTS. So the instant a sperm and an egg meet that is a person and the woman has NO rights from that instant!

    These men — none of whom have ever been pregnant or carried a child to term will make those decisions for women.

    • wicked

      These men need to be violated. A telephone pole will do fine.

    • Women must remember the U.S. Supreme Court is currently barely balanced to protect women’s rights, to prevent laws that would take our rights away and put us back under the control of men.

      Who remembers when a pregnant woman couldn’t get a job?

      Who remembers when a woman of child-bearing age couldn’t get a loan, and maybe not a job? You were asked, and it was okay for them to ask.

      Who remembers when we had no ability to achieve economic freedom?

      Well, if the Plutocrats can ‘control’ half the workforce by simply controlling their rights to make their own decisions about their reproductive processes, it will be so much easier to make everyone serfs. This is an economic issue! The BIG corporations need to get control over women to complete their control over government.

      Statistics show equal pay for equal work would put an extra $200 billion into the American economy every year. Remember that last spring every Republican U. S. senator voted against The Equal Pay Act! And don’t forget the wisdom of PrairiePond from a couple of days ago: “If half of the workforce is earning less, that’s an economic crisis all its own.

      • wicked

        Who remembers when a woman of child-bearing age couldn’t get a loan, and maybe not a job.

        (raises hand) In the early 70s, I dropped in on a class (with a friend) at WSU that was basically a Women’s Lib class. I was shocked to learn that a woman of child-bearing age could not buy a house. If you could prove you’d had a hysterectomy, the odds swayed a little in your favor. Why? Women weren’t expected to keep a job if they had children. Wow! Times have changed. Most women are expected to work or have to work. 40 years has made a huge difference.

      • They often were prevented from keeping a job — fired! It was fine for employers to fire a woman who didn’t show up for work for a few days straight — maternity leave wasn’t in the employee handbook! Employers didn’t want the employee gone for that few days to give and recoup from giving birth; employers certainly didn’t want an employee who may have an infant who might need care.

        It was such a different world!

        There were no child care organizations. There certainly weren’t any options for care of a child who was ill.

        Most women who did work had family to help with child care.

    • wicked

      Did you see this one?

      BILL WOULD REQUIRE PREGNANT WELFARE RECIPIENTS TO PROVE RAPE TO KEEP BENEFITS (Forbes)

      http://onforb.es/P55Htk

      • It’s a new tactic, a new plan in their war on women, and with some it works. You know when they make it ‘moderate’ to exempt rape and incest, some people decide that sounds reasonable, it sounds like a good compromise — especially to men who have never been pregnant. And no one asks who decides whether it was rape or incest. What proof will be required or accepted.

        Then there are those women who they make deem unworthy — they’re out having kids and expecting the people who work for a living to support them! Welfare Moms! Despicable! Yes, it should be fine and dandy to simply quit worrying about those useless women and their equally useless children.

  2. Women constitute more than half of the population. In 2008, 60% of voters were women. It is estimated that 10 million more women than men will vote in this election. Despite this, women make up only 16% of Congress. Women earn only 70 cents to each dollar men make. Women of color and undocumented women make less than white citizens. Mitt Romney and the Republican Party are determined to overturn Roe V. Wade. Romney has not supported equal pay for women (The Lily Ledbetter Fair Pay Act). Romney has vowed to defund Planned Parenthood. Romney has vowed to repeal the Affordable Care Act. Romney doesn’t want health care to cover birth control. Romney says same sex marriage should be banned with a Constitutional Amendment.

    Women, let’s rise up. Our vote alone can win this election. A vote for Obama is a vote for your health and your right to choose. It is a vote for equal pay and equal rights. A vote for Obama is a vote for our families. It is a vote to marry who you choose. It’s a vote to start a family when you choose. A vote for Obama says that we won’t stand for violence against women and that rape is rape. Our vote ensures that our daughters will grow up with the same rights that we’ve had. A vote for Obama sends a message: This war on women must end. We will not go backwards.

  3. Electing republicans is dangerous to every woman’s well being! To the well being of our families, to the well being of our country! It’s a pathway to a few wealthy men controlling our country, her people, her government — that’s called a Plutocracy and ends our Representative Democracy form of government.

    What they can’t do at the legislative level, they’ll make sure they put in place at the judicial level.

  4. We haven’t even mentioned the obvious — making abortions illegal doesn’t stop them, doesn’t even reduce their numbers.

    NO ONE SAVES ANY LIVES BY DOING THIS! Those religious zealots fool only themselves!

    Just as religion has no place in government, government has no place in wombs! It’s NOT their business!

    • wicked

      But in the world of religious zealots, botched abortions where the women die are okay. It’s “God’s way of taking care of sinners.”

      Abortion has been around since the dawn of man woman. The same is true for birth control. Without it, we’d all be India and China where the number of children has been limited by the government because of over-population. Or is over-population one of those things that are “God’s will,” too?

      I want one religious zealot to explain to me why it’s okay with their God for children to die of malnutrition and starvation.

  5. Did you ever, in your most imaginative thoughts, guess we’d be fighting these same battles in 2012?

    • wicked

      Hell no! There are days I’m glad I won’t have to keep fighting the fight forever. Other days I’m saddened that my daughters will have to take a stand and fight. They shouldn’t have to. This is what happens when men take over. I’d like to live long enough to see women take over. Karma’s a bitch. 🙂

  6. Remember in Mitten$ all-important religion a woman can’t get into heaven unless her husband invites her. So if you didn’t marry — forget it. And if you did — plan to be dependent on your man. And don’t ever expect anything even close to equality being a part of the discussion — not gonna happen!

    • wicked

      The “can’t get into heaven unless married’ was created so they could breed and multiply. Multiple wives makes it even easier. I’m sure any woman/female who became pregnant out of wedlock was either immediately married in a hush-hush ceremony or sent away…forever.

      They’re breeders. They must have more of their own so they can take over. Reeks of cultism.

  7. One more rant and then I’m going back to things that make me smile. My psyche can only take just so much exposure to the Mitten$.

    Whenever you hear any republican change the subject and say it’s the economy, it’s jobs, these social issues aren’t important…

    This means we don’t want to remind voters, especially women, of our views on those social issues! We’ll take care of those ‘little unimportant issues’ once we’re elected.

  8. This makes me smile… My kids are such nerds. Last night was the first one home from the hospital. Today the nerdy parents say they’re going to work with the baby on the concept of sleeping at night as opposed to last night’s shenanigans. 🙂

    Ah, the joy! It hasn’t changed! I am reminded of that first night home with each of mine. And I remember how the tiniest change can result in ‘shenanigans.’ I think I must have a cruel, sadistic streak. It makes me laugh they are getting to experience this.

    Oh, and this about big brother Davy — …has not been terribly impressed. Seems the only thing Ellery is good for is that he is an easy target for binky stealing… Davy has figured out how to reach into the co- sleeper and pluck the binky right out of Ellery’s mouth…

    • wicked

      LOL on the binky! My first used one, but the next one preferred her thumb. I learned the thumb cannot be removed from the hand. She’d use one for thumb sucking, the other to hold her (or anyone else’s) ear–opposite ear and thumb so it crossed over the thumb-sucking hand. We had pictures taken when she was about 2 1/2, and she tried to hold her baby sister’s ear. Third one came along and wasn’t interested in either binky or thumb, then we started over with the binky on the last one.

      As for sleeping with a newborn around, they eventually adjust themselves to the family. Or not. Mine are night owls like me, and totally unlike their dad. Drove him crazy. 😉

    • I guess this is not the time to talk about how both our girls were good for 5 to 6 hours of sleep a night almost immediately upon coming home from the hospital. . .

      • You got to sleep with a newborn in the house? Not once, but twice? 🙂

      • Yes! I didn’t talk about it publicly, though, especially in the presence of other new fathers. BTW, my hypothesis dealt with the fact that both were a bit larger than normal, their tummies could hold a bit (or in the case of the younger, more than a bit) more chow, allowing both parents a better than average sleep experience. 🙂

  9. Perhaps Kansas wouldn’t be such a red state if we could motivate every eligible voter to cast a vote? I’m always disappointed when I see the percentages of eligible voters who actually cast a vote.

  10. As Governor of Massachusetts, Romney prevented the Department of Health from issuing accurate birth certificates for the children of married same-sex couples. After marriage equality was ruled into law by the Massachusetts Supreme Court in late 2003, the Registry of Vital Records and Statistics insisted that birth certificate forms needed to be revised because of the “father”/”mother” dichotomy, but Romney objected.

    Instead, he forced his top legal staff to individually review every same-sex birth, and only after winning their approval could hospital officials and town clerks manually cross out “father” on the forms for lesbian couples. Gay males couples were actually required to seek a court order to secure their parenthood. As a result of these arbitrary policies, the 10-day deadlines for issuing birth certificates were often not met for many children.

    Town clerks complained in 2005 about the handwritten changes, and Romney spokesman Eric Fehrnstrom explained at the time that such a change required the state Legislature to act. But Peggy Wiesenberg, deputy general counsel for the Department of Public Health, had told the Romney administration the year before that the Department of Public Health had the authority to make them, but a Romney staff lawyer intervened, explaining that “there appear to be many complicated issues that should be discussed with many different communities before the changes are made.” Birth certificate forms were only officially changed after Gov. Deval Patrick (D) took office.

    http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2012/10/24/mitt-romney-overruled-state-agency-and-rejected-new-birth-certificates-for-children-born-gay-parents/TqOHBb99V98H6nGQqUQrjO/story.html

    • wicked

      That’s bullshit. This is what I fear the most. He’ll do whatever he wants and screw anybody who tries to stop him. He doesn’t seem to understand that the President is not King.

      • prairie pond

        I think that King thingy is what got Shrub in trouble. Romney will be just like Shrub, except waaaaay worse. Romney is just plain mean.