Tuesday, 8/21/12, Public Square


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39 responses to “Tuesday, 8/21/12, Public Square

  1. Stonekettle Station blog post —

    Todd Akin, Social Media’s Bitch


    • wicked

      I found this quote while looking up the definition of rape on dictionary.com. If it makes anyone want to vomit, the point is made.

      “Rape fattens on the fantasies of the normal male
      like a maggot in garbage.” -Marge Piercy

      I’d say this is an apt definition of Akin.

  2. I Misspoke—What I Meant To Say Is ‘I Am Dumb As Dog Shit And I Am A Terrible Human Being’

    You see, what I said was, “If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.” But what I meant to say was, “I am a worthless, moronic sack of shit and an utterly irredeemable human being who needs to shut up and go away forever.”

    It is clear to me now that I did not choose my words with care and did not get across the point I was trying to convey. In hindsight, I guess instead of using the words “legitimate rape,” I should have used the words “I am an unforgivable, unrepentant, and unconscionable subhuman dickhead.” Or better yet, “I am an evil, fucked-up man who should never have been elected to the United States Congress, and anyone who would vote for me is probably a pretty big fucking dumbshit, too.” See how much more sense that makes? It’s amazing how a few key word changes can totally alter the meaning of a statement.

    More —

  3. (from the link): All this puts the national and state Republicans in a real bind. The more they attack Akin publicly (in order to get him out and also to distance themselves from what he said), the more material his opponent, Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-MO) has to use against him if he stays in. But look at this from Akin’s point of view. He has spent a year campaigning, begging for money and going through the hell that a modern campaign is. He gave up his safe seat in the House and won a nasty three-way primary. Then he got on television and said what he undoubtedly really believes and suddenly the entire Republican establishment unloads on him. Saturday he was the hero who was going to deliver the Senate to the Republicans and Monday he is a pariah. And now those ungrateful fellows want him to give it all up, just when the polls show him winning big.

    Who knows what kinds of pressure will yet be brought to bear on Akin today. The national party and some of the superPACs have already cut off his funding, but he can probably make up some of it by getting donations from people who are indeed opposed to all abortions, even in the case of rape. Some anti-abortion groups have doubled down on their support for Akin.


    • wicked

      Maggots in garbage, all of them.

    • prairie pond

      …and worse yet, PPP poll on Monday showed Akin still with a one point lead over McCaskill, same as last week. 79 percent polled said Akins comments were bad, but it appears the voters in Mizzou still prefer him to the Democrat. Maybe that will change, as Monday was a pretty quick poll, but for 79 percent to know his comments and still vote for him…

      WTF with Missouri? And what about the 21 percent who AGREE with Akin?

      Jesus wept.

      • Every time I have driven through Missouri – I notice all the billboards for their strip clubs – right next to their numerous signs for their many Bible Colleges.

        Maybe this explains why 79 percent will still vote for Akin?

  4. The only thing the Akin words do is highlight the republican stance on abortion, on women’s rights, on health care, on scientific fact, on their desire to CONTROL. Everyone who previously recognized THE REPUBLICAN WAR ON WOMEN understands this is nothing new. Those who won’t acknowledge it — probably because they choose not to — still won’t.

    The RNC platform includes a Constitutional ban on abortion with no exception for rape or incest.

    If you are a woman, the Republicans, as a group, have and are continuing to enact legislation that would essentially take away your soverenigty as a human.

    Republicans want employers to have the right to fire an (female) employee for using birth control to keep from having a child.

    In our own state a doctor lost her license for giving an abortion to a mentally disabled 10 year victim of incestuous rape.

    We’ve all heard their hypocritical diatribe on healthcare wrapped in a birth control package.

    Akin served on the House Science and Technology Committee. What does that tell you about the republican plan to dumb down America?

    Their inane argument about it being their tax money… Try using that one when you say you are against the bloated defense budget or war or any other of their CONTROL measures!

    Don’t be fooled — this is about abortion, and about control. Everything the Republican Party has done for many years is about abortion and control, no matter how they attempt to disguise it. The Republican Party intends to CONTROL women! There is no economic freedom for a woman unless she has the same rights as any other human. The republicans intend to make sure that she doesn’t.

    • wicked

      More maggotry.

      Seriously (although the maggot thing is serious), once a caged animal is freed, it’s much, much harder, if not impossible, to cage it again. Have you ever seen a cat being put in a carrier? I swear they grow ten more legs. That’s women, who the Republicans (maggots) are now trying to force back into a role that for over 40 years has been growing and spreading, not only in our country, but around the world.

      “Heaven has no rage like love to hatred turned / Nor hell a fury like a woman scorned.” – William Congreve (1670-1729)

      Most might recognize it in it’s new and improved form: Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.

  5. R.D. Liebst

    It can get me, what is said and of course the underlying reason for them saying it. Politics and trying to get voters to support the candidate. This observation comes for the latest flap over it being said that a woman can not get pregnant from a rape. Who is stupider the Congressman who said that or that there are voters who actually believe that is true?

    Gendering to that segment that would actually believe that a pregnancy can not be a mistake even in the case of rape. To conceded that to them would mean that somehow it was God or their logic that is mistaken. And either way it is unthinkable to agree that it was a miscarriage of the very simplistic sense of justice or right and wrong. To equate a child that is the product of rape to that of one from a loving couple takes a disregards of logic. Of course there is the reasoning that a child should not be judge on how they were conceived.

    A child should always have the best of the benefit of the doubt as to their worth or justification for being a living soul. We all know to count someone out is not totally based on reality of their conceptions. But to force someone to have to start life and being a parent when the odds are starting out against them is foolhardy.

    • wicked

      Not only is it stupid, but it’s sad. If Akin is being absolved by anyone, it’s bad enough, but if women are saying, “Oh, it’s okay. He only misspoke,” it’s far, far worse.

      The brainwashing of females continues.

  6. “So if we add up Mr. Ryan’s specific proposals, we have $4.3 trillion in tax cuts, partially offset by around $1.7 trillion in spending cuts — with the tax cuts, surprise, disproportionately benefiting the top 1 percent, while the spending cuts would primarily come at the expense of low-income families. Over all, the effect would be to increase the deficit by around two and a half trillion dollars. Yet Mr. Ryan claims to be a deficit hawk. What’s the basis for that claim?”
    —Paul Krugman, NY Times

  7. Does anyone think Todd Akin will resign – like some of the Republicans are scrambling to get him to do?

    I don’t think so – men like Akin think they call the shots – they are the Masters. I suspect Akin’s ego will not allow him to be pushed off the stage….

    • I don’t think he’ll stay in the race. I’m sure he is ‘negotiating’ for a good deal — a judgeship, something to fill his coffers. And they’ll pay the ransom he demands. They’re well aware of the implications — the Senate becomes not so easy to gain control of, and the conversation can’t be steered as easily to what they want to discuss. He highlights the republican agenda they all share but prefer be kept hidden.

      • I watch Jennifer Granholm on Current TV. She was discussing this issue with two of her guests. She said that according to the Missouri rules – the Republican Committee can choose any candidate they want to replace Akin – if he chooses to step down.

        Which, to her way of thiniking, would make some pepole mad since thlogical resolution should be to pick the candidate with the next highest vote count from the primary.

        There were names like John Ashcroft, Jim Tallent (sp?) and another one being thrown around – is what Granholm had heard.

        Wasn’t Ashcroft the one that ordered the statues in some building at the Capitol be draped because they were were nude?

        But yet these same Republicans see nothing wrong with a man actually saying that a woman’s body has the ability to shut down the whole thing if she is legitimately raped?

        Wow – a statue has to be draped to be modest and godly – but their crackpot can spew out nonsense and these morons sit and applaud.

    • prairie pond

      Oh, I think he’ll stay. His replacement might have a tough time at this late date. And.. don’t forget the polls. If it shows he can still win, and MO is apparently dumb enough to let him win, he’ll stay.

      • From my observations, he will stay unless “God says to do differently”. If God exists, s/he has more important things to deal with than giving political advice to a blathering idiot.

  8. I will believe the Pro-Life supporters are serious about saving lives when these same people start being Pro-Living supporters.

    By that I mean – start supporting our government policies to make it even possible to have that baby and then to raise the child in a thriving and safe environment.

    But how can we do that if we are forced to give our tax dollars to the top 1% – and then give them more whenever they snap their figners?

    I hear these REpublicans yammer on and on about how mothers should stay at home with their kids. Okay – if they want that to happen – then somebody is going to have to tell these corporations to start paying living-wages in order for one parent to work and to cover all the bills.

    Health insurance premiums – alone – cost up to $500 (on the cheap side) for a family. If you’re making minimum wage or the average wage ($10- 15) – that $500 is a big chunk to pay – along with the mortgage/rent, food, transportation to get to your job, clothing, etc.

    Exactly how is one person supposed to make it when all the prices keep going up?

    That is one question I have asked every single Republican – and NOBODY has ever answered that question.

    If THEY want mothers to be home with their kids – then MAKE it possible for those mothers who choose to do so….

    Until then – I will continue to not believe the Pro-Lifer supporters that they truly care about saving lives. They only care about the pre-born – and that is not the same thing as caring about those already living.

    • BTW – If I see one more damn sign about how they pray for religious freedom – I am going to SCREAM.

      I passed by a Catholic Church when the parking lot was emptying after Sunday service. There were people (one very pregnant woman) who was passing out flyers about how we need to pray for our religious freedom.

      EXCUSE me….but who the Hell are the CAtholics to be preaching down to anyone?

      Has the whole world forgotten what this Church covered up for years????

      That right there – does not make me want to ask them for any advice on my morals.

      I think the Catholic Church has not begun to pay for their sins of covering up the damage they helped to pile onto countless young boys. How many lives did this Church ruin ?

      And then these dress-wearing men are so worried about THEIR religious freedom?

      I call B.S. on that one…..

      One of my best friends (a devout Catholic and Tea Party Republican) and I were having lunch one day. We got to talking about the Penn State and Jerry Sandusky crap. This friend actually said that her Church was also dealing with that ‘little problem’.

      Little?????? In what universe is grown men messing with young boys considered a Little problem?

      I have not talked to my friend in 6 months – and Frankly, my dear, I don’t give a damn what she thinks or what she does. I have made my choice to not be around when someone who professes to be so godly and moral – call molesting young boys a ‘little’ problem.

      Total B.S.

      • I truly believe America as a theocracy is another republican agenda item they all desire but don’t want to talk about publicly.

  9. G-STIR

    If Romney is elected, ugh!, it will effectively mark the demise of the USA and the birth of the USSI ( United States of Special Interests).

    • I’ve heard about the White Horse Prophecy…..

      Yeah, and these Fundy Christian Republicans still yammer on and on about how Obama is a planted Muslim that is going to take over America.

      But yet these same Fundies are voting for the Mormon guy (a cult in their eyes) and according to the White Horse Prophecy – only Mormons will be the Masters……I wonder if these Fundies realize they are voting for their own new slave master?

      • I think they realize (publicly) two things ONLY —

        1. They lost. Have you ever seen such sore losers?

        2. They lost to Obama and he is now their enemy.

        He has spent less than other recent presidents. I know what they say about his spending and I know all of that is a big fat lie.

        He is popular. He obviously cares about middle-class and poor Americans. Whereas, the republicans fear someone getting something they don’t deserve. They can’t quite articulate this, but they know there are people out there who are getting something for nothing!

        He reduced taxes. Yep, he did. He had to put some money in some pockets of people who have no choice but to spend it or starve.

        Then there’s what they don’t admit publically —

        1. Obama is black.

        2. If they don’t win the presidency this time they miss the chance to stack the SCOTUS in their favor.

    • wicked

      Ha! Go Morgan! Except that isn’t him. The account for @MorgonFreeman (note the ‘o’ instead of ‘a’ the first name) is not associated with the actor and in fact goes under the name of “Quotes from God.” Sounds good, though.

      You have to watch Twitter. Anybody can put up an account under any name. There are a lot of actors on Twitter, and those that are real are verified. One good one to follow for politics is Alec Baldwin. I also follow Stephen Colbert and George Stephanopoulos, not to mention HuffPost.

      • Ahha… I didn’t know that. 🙂

        Okay, so I don’t have any idea whether Morgan Freeman agrees with this imposter, but I do agree!

  10. Breaking News : Akin is staying in the race. It was even reported that Akin’s advisors think this will elevaste Akin to a more activist role – even a folk hero – to the causes Akin believes in.

    Hey – Tony Perkins of the infamous Family Research Council and good ol’ Pat Robertson of The 700 Club is right there backing Todd Akin.

    What could possibly go wrong?

    • prairie pond

      So… Can I call ’em or what! I agree, as much as it pains me, that this will give him a wingnut boost. The backlash cometh. Chick-Fil-Bigot and now this. Wingnuts are getting uppity.

    • what could possibly go wrong…

      pass the popcorn!

  11. It would be good if someone / anyone would ask candidates these questions. I won’t hold my breath.


    Seven Questions for Republicans Abandoning Akin

    So here’s a test: Are you a Republican politician who would desperately like to distance yourself from Akin? Answer these seven simple questions first.

    Read more http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/closeread/2012/08/seven-questions-for-gopers-abandoning-akin.html#ixzz24D6ums8q

  12. The rise of the ‘Drawbridge Republicans’

    (from the link): Mitt Romney came from wealth and went on to build his own quarter-of-a-billion dollar fortune. Paul Ryan, who has never worked a day in the private sector (outside a few months in the family firm) reports a net worth of as much as $7 million, thanks to trusts and inheritances from his and his wife’s family.

    Wealthy political candidates are nothing new, of course. But we’ve never had two wealthy candidates on a national ticket whose top priority is to reduce already low taxes on the well-to-do while raising taxes on everyone else — even as they propose to slash programs that serve the poor, or that (like college aid) create chances for the lowly born to rise.

    Call them the Drawbridge Republicans. As the moniker implies, these are wealthy Republicans who have no qualms about pulling up the drawbridge behind them.

    continue reading —

    • wicked

      Do I hear an “Amen! Sing it, brother!”?

    • Got the analogy within four lines, but it occurred to me that it’s how these assholes look at money, too, so they probably wouldn’t understand it.

      It’s the core of their economic argument as well: the poor were “asking for it.”

  13. Lyrics:
    I met a guy at the mall.
    Head over heels I did fall.
    I need to buy birth control,
    but now you’re in my way.

    The clinic told me ’bout you.
    They said they call you The Cooch.
    Hey man, you haven’t a clue,
    and now you’re in my way.

    Your agenda’s daunting,
    rich, white, catholic talking,
    women’s rights a stalking.
    Whatdya think you’re doing crazy?

    I’ve never met you
    and this is shady.
    It’s my vagina,
    so hands off, crazy.
    You’re on the far right
    and women are angry.
    It’s my vagina,
    so hands off, crazy.

    You took your time with your call
    hoping the clinics would fall.
    The Board of Health gave its all
    and still you’re in my way.

    You cheat women in our state
    thinking guv’nah is your fate,
    but we know better than that
    and now we’re on our way.

    Your agenda’s daunting,
    rich, white, Catholic talking,
    women’s rights a stalking.
    Whatdya think you’re doing crazy?

    I’ve never met you
    and this is shady.
    It’s my vagina,
    so hands off, crazy.
    You’re on the far right
    and women are angry.
    It’s my vagina,
    so hands off, crazy.

    Then you came and took my rights.
    I want them all back!
    You need to step back!
    I want my rights, rights back!

    Then you came and took my rights.
    I want them all back,
    and you should know that.

    So hands off, crazy.

  14. Republicans’ feigned outrage over Todd Akin’s “legitimate rape” statement didn’t stop them from falsely and conveniently negating it with a “both sides do it” reference to Biden’s shackles gaffe, as if a gaffe is the equivalent of years of policy.

    Maybe everyone does say stupid things, but not everyone has a mountain of legislation backing up the stupid thing they said, proving that it wasn’t a gaffe but a policy. “Legitimate rape” was not a gaffe nor was it the opinion of one lone Republican in the House. The Medieval thinking behind “legitimate rape” runs wild in the Republican Party, and there is a mountain of legislation to prove it.


  15. Warning! Language that IS offensive. Thinking that may cause republican heads to explode!

    • What’s sad is that nothing he’s saying is particularly hard to see (and I bet the Old Fart would be the first to agree).

      Still made me smile. You gotta laugh or you’ll cry, ya know?