Tuesday, 8/14/12, Public Square


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29 responses to “Tuesday, 8/14/12, Public Square

  1. We celebrate the progress women before us have made, and commit to the fight. We didn’t know we’d need to fight for the same rights overandover again, but we’re up to the task! We won’t go back! We’ll do our part!

  2. “Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes you can do these things. Among them are H. L. Hunt (you possibly know his background), a few other Texas oil millionaires, and an occasional politician or business man from other areas. Their number is negligible and they are stupid.”

    — President Dwight D. Eisenhower

    • For many years (maybe all the way back to Goldwater)I’ve listened to wise republicans tell me if they get enough rope they will hang themselves. I think this is the year!

    • wicked

      Even his granddaughter has said that he wouldn’t recognize his own party now. And he certainly wouldn’t approve of it!

    • Bob White

      It may appear that democrat families, only, teach “not to run with scissors!” (Love this graphic)

  3. You know how they are so industriously trying to purge voter rolls of these folks.

    (from the link): “Here in Miami there are a lot people with money who have had problems with the law,” Bermudez told the New Times. “Thankfully, we all have the opportunity in this country to re-enter society when we’ve done something wrong.”

    Must be only those who vote Democratic who don’t get those opportunities!


    Host for Romney event is a convicted drug dealer

    MIAMI (AP) – Mitt Romney held a campaign event Monday evening at a Miami juice shop owned by a convicted cocaine trafficker.


  4. R.D. Liebst

    This morning FDR was mentioned, it is sure looking like we will need a FDR again and I hope that the President will be up for the job. And of course like FDR, President Obama has his own shortsighted opposition. I say shortsighted because in order for the President to put things through it would mean a win for his side.

    Which they see not as a win for the American people but for his political party, as if somehow that is a downfall for the country. It is true that it can be such a oxymoron, since in order for the rich to continue to be rich they need for the average person to also success. A rich person by themselves has nothing more then the poorest person if that money has no real value for them.

    Their money can not buy that which there is nothing to buy and without someone to making those things. What is there to buy? Symbolic relationship is what it is called and Trump with all his money can not buy that which does not exist. No jets without those workers building the jet and no mansion without someone to build it.

    He would tell you he is a self made man but like the saying goes, “ No man is an island!”.
    The person with a bag of gold in the middle of the desert will still die of thrust and hunger.
    All it means is that in a few hundred years someone else will be searching the desert for the bag.
    Symbolic too is the relationship between the poor and the rich, I envisions while out in the wilds of Lucas Kansas.

    All the craft makers and artists in the world will starve amongst their beauty and enrichment of the spirit.
    Less someone is able to buy their talents and gifts, so others without such talent have to achievement.

  5. The Ryan Budget in a Nutshell

    The Christian Science Monitor has a quick guide to Paul Ryan’s budget plan. The details are important because there are many items in there that both Democrats and Republicans are going to use in the campaign. In particular, the Democrats are salivating at the prospect of making Ryan not only Mitt Romney’s running mate, but also the running mates of all 33 Republican Senate candidates and all 435 House candidates. Here are the highlights of Ryan’s budget.

    — Spending. Discretionary spending (FBI, FDA, education, health care, veterans, NASA, etc.) will be cut by 50%

    — Taxes. Two brackets created: 10% and 25%, corporate tax cut from 35% to 25%, alternate minimum tax repealed

    — Medicare. Abolished in current form. Seniors get vouchers to buy private insurance if they can

    — Medicaid. This health-care program for the poor would be turned into block grants to states to use as they wished

    — Food. Food stamps would be turned into block grants to states. Price supports for farmers would be reduced.

    In short, the budget decimates just about everything except defense, social security, and interest payments in order to cut the top marginal tax rate. The budget has been called a fantasy by none other than David Stockman who can hardly be labeled a liberal. He ran the budget office for President Ronald Reagan and knows a thing or two about the conservative approach to the federal budget.

  6. 84 Days until Election Day, and we still don’t know whether the Republican Party nominee paid any income taxes for most of the last decade.

  7. In two speeches over the last few days, Mitt Romney invoked Senator Ron Wyden (D-OR) to attempt to burnish Rep. Paul Ryan’s (R-WI) credentials as a compromiser and a savior of Medicare. In one, Romney said his vice presidential pick “found a Democrat to co-lead a piece of legislation to make sure we can save Medicare.” In another, he brought up Wyden by name: “Paul Ryan and Senator Wyden said, ‘No, we need to restore, retain and protect Medicare… That’s what our party will do”. Sen. Wyden, however, did not take kindly to the association. Wyden fired out a statement that read, in part:

    “Gov. Romney is talking nonsense. Bipartisanship requires that you not make up the facts. I did not ‘co-lead a piece of legislation.’ I wrote a policy paper on options for Medicare. Several months after the paper came out I spoke and voted against the Medicare provisions in the Ryan budget. Governor Romney needs to learn you don’t protect seniors by makings things up, and his comments today sure won’t help promote real bipartisanship”

  8. The facts about proposals from both parties: “But it’s simply a conservative myth that the White House hasn’t put forward a Medicare reform plan. What that line really means is that White House hasn’t put forward some variant of Ryan’s plan, which in many Republican circles, has come to be seen as the only policy change that counts as ‘entitlement reform.’

    “But Obama’s plan is, without doubt, far more detailed than anything Romney has put forward, and Republicans are well aware of its existence. One Republican accused Obama of a ‘bureaucratic approach to controlling Medicare costs’ which ’empowers a board of 15 unelected officials — the Independent Payment Advisory Board, or IPAB — to hold the growth of Medicare spending.’ He said the cuts would be so severe that they ‘would simply drive Medicare providers out of business, resulting in harsh disruptions and denied care for seniors.’

    “That Republican? Paul Ryan.”

    The Republican ticket’s big Medicare myth

    • (from the link above): I’ve got a modest proposal: You’re not allowed to demand a “serious conversation” over Medicare unless you can answer these three questions:

      1) Mitt Romney says that “unlike the current president who has cut Medicare funding by $700 billion. We will preserve and protect Medicare.” What happens to those cuts in the Ryan budget?

      2) What is the growth rate of Medicare under the Ryan budget?

      3) What is the growth rate of Medicare under the Obama budget?

      The answers to these questions are, in order, “it keeps them,” “GDP+0.5%,” and “GDP+0.5%.”

      Let’s be very clear on what that means: Ryan’s budget — which Romney has endorsed — keeps Obama’s cuts to Medicare, and both Ryan and Obama envision the same long-term spending path for Medicare. The difference between the two campaigns is not in how much they cut Medicare, but in how they cut Medicare.

      • I just listened to a discussion say that Obama’s budget take $700 billion of Medicare cuts and puts the exact same money back into the social safety net programs

        The Ryan budget takes those same $700 billion Medicare cuts and gives it to the 1% in the form of even more tax cuts.

        I guess the 1% needs more our our tax dollars to stash overseas in their tax-free havens?

        At least Obama’s Medicare cuts do go back into the budget to help Americans……

    • I’m not certain what their problem is but I suspect there is a Stepford Wife Syndrome involved somewhere if you think the Feminist Movement is a a bad thing.

      Or maybe there is a Neanderthal holding on that myth that God made man the master of his house and that his wife is to be submissive.

      These Bible Thumpers should be told to read that Bible before they thump someone else with it.

      In the story of how God made Eve – God took a rib bone from Adam to make Eve. That is very interesting because a rib bone symbolizes being a helpmate – a partner.

      God did not use a foot bone – so I believe that God did not intend woman to be stomped on by the man – huh?

      I also have this theory as to why man was designed the way he was – if it was not in the middle, in the front, at arm’s length – men would never find it and there would be no children born – ever.

  9. (from the link):

    And that skepticism about Ryan among GOP strategists is striking.

    They’re worried about inviting Medicare — usually death for Republicans — into the campaign. They’re worried it sidetracks the jobs issue. They’re worried he’ll expose the fact that Romney doesn’t have a budget plan. Most of all, they’re worried that Romney was on track to lose anyway — and now that feels all but certain.

    GOP pros fret over Paul Ryan

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0812/79697.html#ixzz23XSSrD9v

  10. A postcard from 1913.

    Such a long time, such a worthy cause. And we won’t stop, we won’t go backwards, the republicans are on the wrong side of history and should learn the lessons of never under estimating women!

  11. Another television icon has died. Do we have any ‘Welcome Back Kotter’ fans in here? This time it is Horshack – remember him?


  12. Stockman, who was the director of the Office of Management and Budget during the Reagan administration, blasted Ryan’s budget as an “empty conservative sermon” and “fairy tale” in an op-ed published in the New York Times:


  13. Random thoughts from a twisted mind……

    Caught a vid clip of Michelle and Gabby on Tonight. Gabby said she had an Egg McMuffin after the competition in London was over and Michelle scolded her a bit. It was funny, Michelle said “at least say it was a whole wheat McMuffin!” Good stuff, two beautiful ladies. I am very proud of our FLOTUS.

    Paul Ryan – what can you say – this is what happens when you grow up without a sense of empathy for your fellow man.

    Mitt – what can you say – doubles down on his contempt for 95% of the American populous.

    President Obama has a golden opportunity when reelected. I have been a bit disappointed that he hasn’t done more for gay rights, etc., but he can make up for it in a second term. Let’s get ‘er done, Mr. President!

    I smoke pot. Not every waking moment, but I do. The fact that it is still illegal pisses me off. Let’s get serious about reforming our drug laws. Having been a practicing alcoholic, I can affirm that pot is far less harmful than alcohol could ever be. In 2012, you can still be sentenced to a long stint in prison for simple possession. Enough is enough. The War on Drugs has been a complete failure – it’s time to try something new.

    The US Army has promoted the a woman to the rank of Brigadier General – the first openly lesbian to achieve that rank. Great, wonderful, about time, etc. So, why do the right-wing yahoos have such a problem? It certainly wasn’t tokenism – 26 year career, grad of West Point, combat veteran, etc. This is my thought for those that have a problem with it – fuck you.

    God, I wish it would rain.

    I love my girlfriend, Annie. It’s so nice to have someone to share my life with, even though she makes me fix the coffee in the morning.

    • I always like hearing your random thoughts!

      I too have high hopes for President Obama’s second term — tempered only by acknowledging the limitations imposed by the House, because I think republicans will still have the majority there. I don’t think they will behave like patriots just because their side lost the presidential race. In fact, I expect prolonged pouting. They’ve already proven they are children and that’s how children behave when they don’t get their way.

      • Fnord, I think and fervenrtly hope you’re wrong about the House, because that means absolutely nothing will happen..However, for the record, I predict the Dems taking back Congress is a forgone conclusion, simply because the House Republicans have become the most despised element of a sentiment against all incumbents. .

        The real problem will be with the Senate, as it has been for Obama’s entire term.

        In an uncharacteristic outburst, Harry Reid recently noted that, just this year, there have been 84 filibusters from the minority.

        Even if Obama wins–and we are royally hosed if he doesn’t—the Senate democrasc are actually going to have to go back to the old-time rough-and-tumble playbook, i.e., when the issue is important enough and the minority blocks it, you keep pushing–keeping senators on on the floor overnight if you must–until they allow it to come for a vote.

      • Zippy — hearing from you too! What a day! It means so much to know the gangs all here. 🙂

        Congress critters. Was there a time when there was something to respect there? Of course you’re correct about the Senate. It’s not easy to admit I’ve become accustomed to the Super Majority requirement of the republicans in this Senate and it no longer registers as being unusual. How easily I did that! I’m not sure who to be most disappointed with: me for not continuing to be livid over the republican Senate tactics or the Senators themselves who make a mockery of governing.

  14. Revealed: Emails show Obama administration told police to ‘stand down’ and not arrest Occupy protesters