Sunday, 7/29/12, Public Square

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17 responses to “Sunday, 7/29/12, Public Square

  1. Just listened to Mitt Romney being interviewed about his foreign policy. Romney constantly brought up Ronald Reagan. Romney said that Reagan used our military strength to keep the peace.

    Uh, excuse me, wasn’t Reagan also that president behind the Iran Contra Scandal?

    Yeah …..that’s what we need – another Reagan in the office.

    Big Eye Roll///

    All I can say is – Romney has done NOTHING to show me he would do anything positive for Americans and the first thing he would do is to go to war with Iran.

    Is that really what we want or need?

    I am really scared Romney will be able to hoodwink just enough people to get in the White House and then the NeoCons will be back in business….and that Holy War will be only months away.

    I hope these Fundy Christians are happy with their Holy War because I plan to tell each and everyone of them to SEND their OWN kids……and take their own butts while they’re at it…

  2. Oh – and as far as Israel goes – I agree the US should be their allies. But I draw the line at the US continuing to be the pit bull attack dog.

    These Fundy Christians also believe in that doctrine – you know that God has ordained that the US is to always fight for Israel.

    You know, we nee those Jews in order for hte Rapture to happen.

    I listended to an NPR program yesterday about the decline of people who believe in organized religion. I happen to agree with this – I do think there is a big decline.

    But in this same report – it was said that these Evangelical mega churches are growing – and aren’t those the people who are driving the GOP? These are the people who generally think that going to war is as easy as changing your underwear.

    Maybe it’s just me – but the example given was a preacher from South Carolina that started with 45 members. It is now 12,000 members. This preacher man actually said that Evangelicals believe in being transparent in their living the Jesus principles and that is why so many people are joining them.

    Transparency? How transparent is that preacher man’s financial records when he has 12,000 people throwing money at him?

    And I just don’t think it is possible for any preacher to be able to minister to 12,000 people at one time. I just don’t believe it.

    Some people are impressed with numbers like 12,000. I tend to view these churches as nothing more than corporations sellling the product of exclusive social clubs – and the only price of admission is to fall in line, spew the same babble and get your pointy little head patted each week.

    12,000 is larger than most successful corporations – and the preacher man’s corporation is all tax free. …..what a sweet deal!!!!

    • Here it is, Indy.

      “Every day, people are straying away from the church and going back to God.” — Lenny Bruce

      In God we may trust—but his proxies, maybe not so much. A new Gallup poll shows that only 44 percent of Americans have great trust in “the church or organized religion,” a surprising finding in a country where more people—about 90 percent of the population—claim to believe in God. The shift may explain the extreme rise in the number of nondenominational churches, Christian houses of worship not linked to a specific hierarchy or tradition.

      U.S. Still Religious, But Trust In Institutions Wanes

      http://www.npr.org/2012/07/28/157538238/u-s-still-religious-but-trust-in-institutions-wanes

    • R.D. Liebst

      While at church this morning, it was asked if there was any Pray requests?
      I responded, “Yes I pray that since my son have managed to be in every pointless and meaningless action from Iraq to Iran. I Ask that we pray that no more damned fool decided we should go around the world acting like we are the savior of the world and the only one fit to be the World Police!

      I got an amen……

  3. Read this article. Then factor in that Romney also wants to attack Iran. This is a situation not being talked about and yet it is too important for anyone to ignore!

    Former top IDF officials worry that Netanyahu is bent on an Iran strike

    ANALYSIS: It looks like Netanyahu and Ehud Barak, Israel’s 10th prime minister, are set on an Iran strike.

    (from the link): Realities in the Middle East have changed drastically during the past two years, he observed. It seems that for the first time in a very long time, there is nothing Israel can really do to curb threatening developments – from the rise of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt to the potential collapse of the Assad regime in Syria. Yet in one area, Israeli action can have significant, dramatic repercussions, ones that will influence life in the region as a whole – and that area is Iran.

    http://www.haaretz.com/weekend/week-s-end/former-top-idf-officials-worry-that-netanyahu-is-bent-on-an-iran-strike.premium-1.454048

  4. This piece does a good job of telling the basics about the LIBOR (London Inter-bank Offered Rate) corruption scandal. It’s just one page and written so it’s easily understood (even for me!).

    Bankers Gone Wild
    by James Surowiecki July 30, 2012

    …Used as a benchmark for interest rates around the world, it’s assembled by asking a panel of big banks to estimate what it would cost them to borrow money today, if they had to. Hundreds of trillions of dollars in derivatives, corporate loans, and mortgages are pegged to these rates. Yet we now know that for years LIBOR rates were rigged…

    Read more http://www.newyorker.com/talk/financial/2012/07/30/120730ta_talk_surowiecki#ixzz221g6A51B

  5. Mitt decided to not allow the press to cover his fundraiser in Jerusalem, after bad press coverage in England. Seems he’s reversed that.

    Of course, the decision came only after complaints and criticism from the media. Heck, even David Axelrod tweeted, “After London debacle, Romney team re-institutes Mittness Protection Program. Now media will be barred from his Jerusalem fundraiser.”

    (Mittness Protection Program… 🙂 )

    Romney Reverses Course, Decides To Open Israel Fundraiser to Media

    http://www.nationaljournal.com/2012-presidential-campaign/romney-reverses-course-decides-to-open-israel-fundraiser-to-media-20120729

  6. R.D. Liebst

    To love and be loved is one of the great things to have. If someone love you then that is a blessing. It was not that long ago that if two people were of differing races it was considered an afronter to God. To date or marry outside your own race was spitting in God’s eye. People were hung and beaten for it.

    Chick-fil-A President Dan Cathy said this week that his privately owned company is “guilty as charged” in support what he called the biblical definition of the family unit. How do you feel about his position?

    • I hope he learns what love is.

      I always thought of mankind as a kind of family unit. I still believe no man is an island, we all need each other. I know for a fact the best things in life come when you’re doing something good for another person!

      There aren’t any human beings better than or superior to another one.

      I don’t understand how anyone can be so hateful and use gawd as their excuse. There is probably nothing that makes me more angry than all these hateful bigots who hold up religion as the excuse for their behavior.

      I have read about the pleas to boycott the restaurants, I saw a picture of Sarah and Todd Palin leaving one with sacks of food. I read another suggestion that people NOT boycott, but instead fill up the restaurants — fill the parking lot, run a long loop of cars through the drive through, fill inside the restaurant to overflowing, take the kids, buy one small drink and sit down for a nice long visit.

      I’ve never eaten at a Chick-Fil-A. I won’t now that I understand doing so would be supporting people who hate and practice bigotry.

    • He’s entitled to voice his belief, regardless of what I or anyone else might think of it. Those who disagree (hopefully, a large majority of potential consumers) are free to avoid his establishments; do a DDOS (in the noninterwebs form in fnord’s reply), or take any other lawful action desired. His supporters are free to buy the product, make public statements in support, and any other lawful action they might desire.

      The guy’s a commercial idiot in making his statement as published in Baptist magazine. In today’s connected world, that’s going to be noticed. For his supporters to now come forth and whine as they are is naive at best and disingenuous at worst. Many of those now finding fault with the reaction to his statements were perfectly fine with, e.g., the calls for a boycott of Disney. While they strive mightily to distinguish the two situations, any distinction drawn is clearly without a difference.

  7. What’s my feeling about the Chick-Fil-A debate? When I go into a restaurant or drive thru – I just want to buy the damn fried chicken sandwich – I don’t want a damn sermon.

    Now that I’ve gotten that out of my system – LMAO

    If we truly live in a free market society – then the president of Chick-Fil-A is free to express his opinions – and the chicken-sandwich public is free to express their opinions – by not showing up at this business.

    What I find wrong about this entire thing – is when peole like Mike Huckabee and SArah Palin get their photo-ops in the media (while demonizing the media) and they keep this debate going on and on and on…

    And for what purpose? Either you wasnt to go buy their chicken or you don’t – it’s pretty simple to me.

    But, hey, if you want really good friend chicken – try Popeyes……and they serve theirs without the sermon….

    • I liked reading that! There’s no danger I’ll face the decision those rich people made, but I do respect their stance. I think their children are the lucky ones!