Wednesday, 7/11/12, Public Square

Even God doesn’t fit in the Fundie box of what makes a person “Christian”


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24 responses to “Wednesday, 7/11/12, Public Square

  1. Wealthy Chinese (a fast growing demographic) could be purchasing the intellectual property of how to build small private aircraft. The smaller planes not currently being produced — Sundowner, Baron, Duchess… — could be revived and built (probably in China). The same Chinese company, Superior, vying to buy Hawker–Beechcraft are also buying an aircraft parts manufacturing business in Texas. They’ll be able to retrofit aircraft engines for older small personal aircraft. Sounds like the Chinese are gearing up for some new toys for their wealthiest.

    • That’s the current recipe to gain technology quickly, fnord. In the good old days, the Soviets just stole it.

      • I’ve heard rumors that other local companies (Cessna) may get in the bidding (the bankruptcy court is obligated to get the best deal for the debtors) because they want to build small personal planes for this market and don’t want Superior to get the ‘leg up.’

      • That might be, and the Bankruptcy Court is responsible to get the most money for the creditors, in a Chapter 7. However, this is a Chapter 11, and the Court’s duty is to determine whether the actions of the Debtor in Possession, in accordance with the Plan (of Reorganization) will allow the Debtor to emerge from the proceedings in a better position to continue operations. As the Superior deal, as outlined, appears to be a really good one for Hawker overall, Textron (Cessna) would need to put a ‘better’ offer meeting the same criteria as the Superior deal. One potential roadblock: antitrust considerations.

  2. I didn’t hear much of Romney’s speech to the NAACP, but I get the impression they all know his education-cutting, raise taxes and cut services for anyone who isn’t wealthy record. He was a governor for four full years and anyone can take a look at what he actually did and compare that record to his empty words.

    He doesn’t stand a chance. He has never done a thing for the middle class and everyone knows it!

    I have a seen a replay of the crowd’s reaction to his intention to repeal Obamacare. That one made me laugh right out loud!


    • The only applause Romney got was when he defended traditional marriage. But is that going to be enough for African Americans to change their minds and vote for Romney?

      I listened to a panel of pundits on MSNBC – the NOW with Alex Wagner show. One of these pudits said that he detected the smirk on Romney’s face after he said something (similiar to the GWB smirk) and he wondered if Romney was not wanting some of those boos fromthe audience.

      In some twisted logic – getting booed at a NACCP convention speech puts another feather in the Old White Fat Guys Grand Old Poobahs’ hat?

  3. I wonder what George Romney, Sr., who paid all his taxes and didn’t move money offshore so he could avoid those responsibilities, thinks of his son, the freeloader?

    • Hard to say – maybe Romney Sr was a different type because he was born in Mexico? Just saying….maybe by Romney Sr’s past life experiences made him a different type of man than his son?

      But – look at Sam Walton’s kids – By all accounts, Sam Walton was good to his workers and pro8udly procliamed that WlMart sold things Made in America.

      When Sam died, the heart of Walmart died with him.

      What was left was nothing but how much more money can we make – and we don’t care how we do it…

    • I heard a brief discussion of this while channel surfing today, and my synthesis of the comments is: George Romney’s generation believed in the concept of shared sacrifice and, as a part of this, helping your neighbor (as understood in the personal practice of religion, generally Christianity, to which they adhered. Today, the attitude is screw my neighbor, selfishly keeping as much money as possible, and there is no connection between religious beliefs and daily life. Sure made sense to me.

  4. I wonder if this is what the Conservative Supreme Court Justices had in mind when they voted for Citizens United?

    And I wonder – how long will it take before we hear some Rabid Religious Right Republican start to whine about this new Super Pac?

  5. According to Republicans and the TeaParty, President Obama is a serial tax-raiser who has increased taxes on “millions of Americans.” But according to the latest data from the Congressional Budget Office, tax rates under Obama hit a 30-year low in 2009, in part because of the tax cuts he implemented in response to the country’s economic downturn:

    Americans paid the lowest tax rates in 30 years to the federal government in 2009, in part because of tax cuts President Obama sought to combat the Great Recession, congressional budget analysts said Tuesday.

    During Obama’s first year in office, the average tax rate paid by all households fell to 17.4%, down from 19.9% in 2007, according to the CBO. The 2009 rate was significantly lower than the previous low of 19.4% in 2003 and well below the 30-year average of 21%.

    • The Tax Man is just another made-up boogeyman these Republicans use to keep their sheeple in line to vote for every little R they see on the ballot.

      Sad to say – I just listened to my personal favorite Fundy Televangelist Pat Robertson this monring go on and o as to how Obamacare will ruin the country.

      Accordin to good ol’ Pat – thousands of IRS agents will have to be hired to collect that mandate tax. And if you don’t pay – there will be alot of people put in jail.

      I thought the ACA forbids the IRS to go after people who do not pay this health care reform penalty? I thought the IRS has been told they cannot legally put a lien on a taxpayers’s house or property for this health care reform penalty not being paid.

      Now – I do understand that if there is a tax refund due this taxpayer – then the IRS can deduct the amount of the penalty from that tax refund before processing such refund.

      But the IRS cannot – by law – actually go after these non-paying taxpayers.

      So – does the ACA instructs the IRS to not go after these taxpayers house and/or property but yet they can put these folks into jail?

      That does not make sense……

      But…then again…..we are talking about good ol’ Pat. And Pat has been known to spew non-truths before….

    • wicked

      I received an email earlier today from Republican House Rep John Fleming in Louisiana, a doctor who wants me to cheer on the R’s latest (and repetitive) attempt to repeal “Obamacare.” I replied to the email with:

      YOU LIE

      Unfortunately he won’t be receiving my response. Here’s what I got back:

      Delivery has failed to these recipients or distribution lists:

      Congressman John Fleming
      The recipient’s mailbox is full and can’t accept messages now. Microsoft Exchange will not try to redeliver this message for you. Please try resending this message later, or contact the recipient directly.

  6. The GOP’s first act after voting to repeal health care for 30 million people? Talk about their golfing skills obviously

    • Where is the petition drive to take away these Congress Critters’ health care insurance provided by the taxpayers?

      While we’re at it – let’s get rid of those pensions plans for these same Critters – since Republicans think that all public service workers need to not get those fat pensin checks.

      How about Republiican Congres Critters? Care to put your money whre your big moths are?

  7. Let’s see…the Speaker makes $107.45 per hour, Majority and Minority leaders make $92.98 per hour, and the other 432 members of the House make $83.65 per hour. Each of the 33 votes to repeal the ACA takes an estimated 4 hours of debate. That means the House has wasted an estimated $4.800,223.76 so far.

  8. “Obama is not proposing that families making up to $250,000 a year keep their tax cuts while families making more than that don’t. He’s proposing that every family keep their tax cuts on their first $250,000 of taxable income (which is not the same as “income” or “earnings,” by the way).

    That includes families with taxable income of $260,000, $1 million, $5 billion, $3 trillion, or whatever Jay-Z and Beyonce make in a year. Everyone would continue to pay a lower tax rate on their first $250,000 of taxable income under Obama’s plan. To report that Obama only wants to maintain tax cuts for families making less than $250,000 is simply false.” — Dan Amira, New York Magazine

    • You know what the problem is – don’t you?

      While what you posted is the facts – those folks who hate Obama will NEVER get past the first word in that first paragraph – Obama.

      It ‘s like these folks get into some sort of trance wehn they hear Obama – they don’t hear anythng past that first word – Obama.

      This much hate will eventually destroy the hater.

  9. Did anyone else notice something that Mitt Romney said at the NAACP speech today?

    Romney stated that he wanted to be the president for all people regadless of their color, creed or sexual orientation….

    I wonder if MItt got his knuckles rapped by the Catholic Nun for saying that….