Monday, 4/30/12, Public Square


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26 responses to “Monday, 4/30/12, Public Square

  1. prairie pond

    Ok, that’s funny! Gotta love Colbert.

    It’s not that I think the youth vote will go repuke. I worry that it won’t go anywhere. I worry that they just are not as motivated to get to the polls, and roust their buddies with them, as they were in 2008 when “Hope and Change” were still possibilities. They may, as a group, not all individuals, go “meh” and sit this one out. That would be very bad for Obama’s re-election.

    • indypendent

      Like my friend used to say when confronting total B.S. (like these Republicans saying there is no War on Women) – OH HELL NO……

      What I find very telling is the very fact that Boehner, McConnell and the rest of the Neanderthal Gang feel it necessary to even try to denounce the GOP War on Women.

      If it was not a real issue – why even address it?

    • indypendent

      Arianna Huffington said this morning that Obama’s campaign ad touting Bin laden’s death and questioning whether Romney would have been so decisive was ‘despicable’.

      Do you agree?

      I guess my question to Arianna would be – when Republicans continue to question Obama’s birth certificate, continue to question his Christian faith, continually tell known lies and half-truths, and continue to get caught in sending those racist emails about Obama and his wife Michelle – are they also being ‘despicable’?

      Ah, therein lies the rub….

      • The killing of BinLaden is among the many accomplishments of President Obama in his first term. Of course he should tout his record! It’s an impressive record and one republicans are very jealous of! So they’ll attempt to denigrate that exceptional record to no avail. Then they’ll simply lie about it.

        The right-wing-nutjobs are going to lie about and ignore all facts that are inconvenient to their agenda. When the right-wing-nutjobs are screaming about taxes being too high (they’re at the lowest point in over 50 years), about President Obama spending future generations into the poor house (government spending is down although the borrowing to pay for the Bush2 policies: two tax cuts, two wars and the Medicare drug benefit continues) … someone has to tell the truth. The right-wing-nutjobs aren’t going to!

  2. indypendent

    This election is basically about one thing – do we want to stay on the current path of continuing to get out of the deep economic hole the Republicans put us in or shall we follow Romney into making that same hole even deeper than it was when Baby Bush first dug it?

    Romney will be George W. Bush on steroids…..

    And , don’t forget, the Iran War is more than just a pipe dream in Romney’s camp – and has GWB’s NeoCons all ready to push their agenda…..AGAIN…

  3. indypendent

    Some political pundit stated the country is so deeply divided today as compared to 20 or 30 years ago.

    Well, let’s see, the Religious Right has taken over the Republican Party (with nod to Ronnie Raygun).

    And, as we saw from the video with DAn Savage, when confronted with the truth – these Far Rights Winges simply walk out of the room.

    I believe this is comes from the Far Right Wingers’ view of their world – they are right and you are wrong. It doesn’t really matter on what issue – THEY are always right and you are always wrong.

    How in the hell can there be a united country with that type of attitude?

    • prairie pond

      “Some political pundit stated the country is so deeply divided today as compared to 20 or 30 years ago.”

      Well, when you demonize gays, women, atheists, Muslims, Democrats, racial minorities and poor people… it kinda tends to divide the country.

      The repukes have, at one time or another in recent elections, demonized just about everyone who wasn’t an old, white, straight, republican, christian, wealthy man.

      Divide and conquer. It’s what’s for breakfast this “morning in America.”

      • indypendent

        The Fundies are NOT nice people….. I should know, I lived in their tribe at one time. I was one of the lucky ones that got out alive and with my sanity intact.

  4. indypendent

    This is an issue that is going to crush us – literally. I am seeing more and more younger people (in their 50’s) who are coming through my desk as disabled people needing long-term care.

    And most of the time – it is diabetes related, morbid obesity, heart problems, kidney problems and liver problems.

    Many times – the underlying issues are drug and/or alcohol problems.

    So, if Republicans are so pro-life adn they want to keep the current health care system – who the Hell is going to pay for these folks?

    These ccases of people in the 50’s going into nursing home care is becoming more common than the general public knows.

    AGAIN – I ask – who the Hell is going to pay for all this health care?

    Nobody wants to pay any taxes and these pro-life people want everyone to live until their natural death – and these folks do have serious health problems, but they will probably live another 10-20 years like this – only for the costs to rise even higher with each passing year.

    AGAIN – I ask – Who the Hell is going to pay for all this??

    Maybe those mega churches will finally start doing what their Bible tells them to do? Aw shucks, what am I thinking? There’s always room to put up another huge golden cross – and they dont’ come cheap (wink-wink).

    Or, maybe the preacher man will just get that new luxury car, after all. Poor man – he works so hard coming up with ways to schmooze that snake oil that sells so well….

    • Did you know this obesity epidemic can be traced back to Reagan? Lots of negatives can. Yes, research corn subsidies, and sugar quotas, federal farm policies under Reagan, research when we began adding high-fructose sugars to all our foods. Reagan.

      • indypendent

        That Ronnie – what a guy…..Big eye roll//

        I remember my childhood where kids ate macaroni and cheese, grilled cheese sandwiches, peanut butter, mashed potatoes and gravy, – you know comfort foods (that are usually the foods they tell folks to stay away from).

        But our food was not processed, as it is today. I have to wonder what the effects of all these chemicals in our food chain has done?

        And that, I suspect, also goes back to what the issue you brought up – government subsidies. Those chemical companies seems to be the first ones in line at that goverment trough.

        One thing we did not have as kids was all this soda pop – do you think that has had a negative effect? I’ve been told by more than one doctor that if you want to lose weight – cut out all the soda pop and half your battle will be won.

        But, I remember making Kool-aid whenwe were kids. We didn’t have the sugar-free kind back then – so we added sugar by the cupfuls. And we always had pitchers of iced tea and/or lemonade – both sugared.

        We did drink alot of milk – but, then again, today’s milk is not like it was when we were kids in the 50’s and 60’s. Too much processing of the milk and/or those hormones they give these dang cows.

        I don’t know what the answer is to this obesity problem – but we need to get a handle on it and the sooner the bettter.

        IIRC – didn’t Sarah Palin and rest of the GOP Twits get their panties in a bunch over Michelle Obama pushing some initiative to get the school kids lunches to be healthier foods?

        Hey – I guess Billy and Betty Bibles are willing to have a nation of obese people? Well, then THEY can pay for the health costs…

        Sounds fair to me..

      • indypendent

        A thought just occurred to me. Maybe these Billy and Betty Bibles do want the disabled people to stay obese.

        I’m sure these folks make up a good portion of the targeted audience for all those televangelists who prey upon the vulnerable to rake in their tax-free millions.

        Imagine – a bunch of disabled people who have nothing better to do than to sit in front of the television set and soak up all those Televangelists doing their dog and pony shows?

        Sad to say – they are a captivated audience – just ripe for the pickings.

  5. indypendent

    Obesity adds $190 billion to health costs.

    AGAIN, I ask, who is going to pay for this?

  6. At a Nerd Prom after party, Meghan McCain and Sandra Fluke swapped stories about being attacked by sexist losers after expressing an opinion publicly.

    Ms. McCain tweeted, “My fav meeting of the night, the very brave and badass Sandra Fluke! #MSNBCafterparty”.

    To which Ms. Fluke replied, “.@McCainBlogette thanx 4 support/advice re: public attacks! We girls have 2 have each others’ backs despite polit diffs. #MSNBCafterparty”

    Meghan McCain wrote back, “@SandraFluke There’s like ten women on the planet that know what being in the middle of a political media firestorm feels like. Any time”

  7. Talk about increasing health-care costs —

    Holding Birth Control Hostage

    Doctors still require women to submit to cancer screenings and pelvic exams to get birth control pills. Scientists say that shouldn’t happen.

    • indypendent

      Here’s a story for you all to think about…

      Wichita Clinic was bought by Via Christi. My friend was asking about changing over to one of those birth control ring-type things and her doctor told her that she had better hurry in to get that exam done and the prescription wrote because the powers to be at Via Christi were coming down hard on any doctor prescribing birth control of any kind…..

      So, let’s review, shall we? Republicans say they are for free market but yet when one entity buys up almost all of the clinics in town – where is the free market? Where is that competition and capitalism that Republicans crow so much about?

      Bottom line – where is the right of the doctor to prescribe what he/she sees fit for his/her patients and not be bound by some non-doctors?

      Look around this city and surrounding areas – who is the biggest health care provider?

      • indypendent

        BTW – if a church gets involved in the profit-making business of health care – do they have the right to enforce their religious dogma onto the patients at those clinics?

      • I’m going to keep my ears pealed. This seems likely to be ‘in the news,’ and likely to be headed to the courts.

      • indypendent

        I wonder if this is happening elsewhere? I know the Catholic Church is a major player in the health care business. And, even though they may be set up to non-profit, that does not necessarily mean there is no profit to be made.

        I wish I could get that through some Fundies’ heads. Many non-profits make a nice little profit but most people hear the word non-profit and they think it is a charity.

        Yeah, the Catholic Church is giving out so much charity, they might have to sacrifice that last set of golden slippers (nod to PP – I remembered. LMAO)

  8. The Romney campaign is shaking the Etch A Sketch.


    Restore Our Future cleans its YouTube channel of negative primary spots

    Restore Our Future, the pro-Mitt Romney super PAC that played a crucial role in bringing Newt Gingrich’s poll numbers back down to earth with a string of negative spots in Iowa, has scrubbed its YouTube channel of all but two of its spots.

    The ones that are left are a contrast spot about Romney and President Barack Obama and one about Romney helping a Bain official search for a teenaged daughter who’d disappeared in New York City. That spot, the best of the 2008 cycle for Romney, was made by Larry McCarthy for the campaign back then. McCarthy is now with ROF.

    The move removes some of the toughest material that was used by ROF against both Gingrich, who is endorsing Romney on Wednesday, and Rick Santorum, who is in talks to back him.

    ROF has been off the airwaves since the general election began in the past few weeks, after spending more than $35 million on spots in the primary. Officials declined to comment on when they’re going back on the air again.

    • indypendent

      Mr. Etch-a-Sketch may think he can erase all the stuff he does not want us to remember – but Women do not forget when they have been targeted for extinction back to the kitchens, barefoot and pregnant.

      Those days are gone….

  9. Rachel did a good job! Unlike Alex Castellanos she never once said he was wrong, she showed him great respect which contrasted with the condescending lack of respect he offered her. She said republicans don’t believe women earn less and then she laid out the facts that, of course, women are paid less. She quoted reputable sources.

    She is intelligent, she is a lady, she is a class act!