Sunday, 4/29/12, Public Square


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43 responses to “Sunday, 4/29/12, Public Square

  1. prairie pond

    You probably all know that the “personhood” bill in Oklahoma was finally put out of its misery and killed. Here’s one reason why.

    “Social conservatives in Oklahoma are infuriated over the blocking of a personhood bill. They write:

    Republican leaders in the Oklahoma Legislature have killed a pro-life bill without even allowing a floor vote on the measure.
    The “personhood” bill would acknowledge that life begins at conception and has been passed or is under debate in a dozen states.
    The Oklahoma House and Senate are controlled by Republican leaders who run for re-election under a GOP pro-life platform that promotes the sanctity of life. One GOP lawmaker said the personhood bill was killed because the State Chamber of Commerce instructed the GOP leadership to do so because the chamber didn’t want any negative national publicity.

    Link –

    I’d like to think this woman is the other reason. From my favorite poet:

  2. prairie pond

    Good on everyone who rallied this week in Topeka, both for LGBT equality and “personhood” for women. I wish I could have been there. Perhaps with a little more economic equality, I could have!

  3. prairie pond

    If you don’t click on any other link today, click on this one. It is well worth the view. And Indy, this one is for you in honor of all the battles you fought with the BS’ers.

    • indypendent

      Thanks Prairie Pond for this link. it made my day. As the Billy and Betty Bibles were walking out – I wondered about their personal sex lives. I wonder how many of those girls would have have to be dragged to their father’s doorstep and then stoned to death?

      I lived in the midst of these Billy and Betty Bibles – their personal lives would make you actually shudder.

      Sometimes you can tell just how much shift someone is trying to hide of their own personal life because theyare the ojnes who are yelling the loudest or throwing the most stones at the ‘other’ guy.

  4. prairie pond

    Note all the good little bigots and their mass exodus. “You have to be carefully taught.”

    • wicked

      Some people just can’t take the truth.

      (My apologies to Jack and the author of that line in A Few Good Men)

    • prairie pond

      Lyrics from Rodgers and Hammerstein’s South Pacific.

      You’ve got to be taught
      To hate and fear,
      You’ve got to be taught
      From year to year,
      It’s got to be drummed
      In your dear little ear
      You’ve got to be carefully taught.

      You’ve got to be taught to be afraid
      Of people whose eyes are oddly made,
      And people whose skin is a diff’rent shade,
      You’ve got to be carefully taught.

      You’ve got to be taught before it’s too late,
      Before you are six or seven or eight,
      To hate all the people your relatives hate,
      You’ve got to be carefully taught

  5. wicked

    I would love to know the marital history of the men in the header photo. I also wonder what their wives–if they’re married, OR THEIR MOTHERS, if not–really think of their vote. I mean deep-down-without-filters think.

    Shame on them.

    • indypendent

      Not all Republican women follow their men in lock step when it comes to womens issues – remember Betty Ford and the ERA?

      • prairie pond

        Don’t forget Cindy and Megan McCain’s support of marriage equality. That certainly wasn’t in lockstep with John.

        And Laura and the Bush twins also supported marriage equality when shrub did not. But then, so did Darth Cheney and his wife.

      • wicked

        Some speak out and some don’t. I understand that each has her reason for what she does. As I said, I’d like to know what those wives & mothers and let’s include daughters, too, really think about how their husbands, sons, and fathers. How do they manage to justify these votes which basically say women women aren’t worthy of laws to protect them. I also wonder how many of these men were given the gift of the sofa for a night.

      • wicked

        prairie pond, I’m sure you are aware that Darth campaigned for same sex marriage in Maryland recently. Sometimes it has to hit home for it to become important.

      • wicked

        Geez, my reading comprehension is at an all time low this morning. My apologies, Pond.

  6. indypendent

    GOP pro-life platform that promotes the sanctity of life. One GOP lawmaker said the personhood bill was killed because the State Chamber of Commerce instructed the GOP leadership to do so because the chamber didn’t want any negative national publicity


    I found this very telling. I thought Pro-Life supporters had these core principles that they would NEVER compromise on?

    But yet – when it comes to what they really worship – MONEY -, then I guess their core principles about pro-life go out the window?

    Is that the deal???

    • wicked

      In a word, YES.

    • They’ll only wait until after they manage to be (re) elected. You cannot believe these zealots.

    • prairie pond

      As one who practiced economic development and ancillary chamber of commerce work for more than 25 years, I can tell you that big business, not small business, call the shots. And I believe the koch brothers took over the U.S. chamber a long time ago.

      Now, chambers and economic development people are wholly owned by the repukes. They support small businesses because it makes a great sound bite and gets repukes elected. They support big businesses because they fund the entire repuke machine. Including Wingnut Welfare, those jobs at conservative and repuke “think tanks” (there’s a contradiction in terms) that hire out of work or up and coming wingnuts who need some “income support” before their next turn at the public trough.

      Any wonder why I quit my profession and vow NEVER to go back?

      Like I always say, economic development is the biggest hoax ever perpetrated on the American taxpayer. And that’s no joke.

  7. prairie pond

    “But yet – when it comes to what they really worship – MONEY -, then I guess their core principles about pro-life go out the window?”

    You know the drill. “Money talks and bullshit walks.”

    Including, apparently, the bullshit in the bible when it suits the pin stripe suit crowd.

    “You pick and choose, you pick and choose.”

  8. prairie pond

    In case you’ve never heard Jack Black sing “You pick and choose” here’s a link to the musical Proposition 8. You have to listen until almost the two minute mark, but trust me, it’s well worth the listen. Funny as hell and hits right the phuck home.

  9. We really have to look at the values that guide us. We have to work toward an ethic that respects every individual, to be physically and emotionally safe. No one, regardless of age, color, gender, background, any other factor, deserves to be physically or emotionally unsafe. In a just society, we pledge to act together to ensure that each individual is safe from harm. In a just society — I think we have to say this over and over and over — we are not going to tolerate the violence.

    Sheila Wellstone

  10. prairie pond

    Oh yeah, and the end of the above posted video shows what it’s really all about. M-O-N-E-Y!!!

  11. prairie pond

    Sorry, I meant the “Pick and Choose” video ends with the message that money is the real “reason for the season.” The political Hate-The-Gays season.

  12. prairie pond

    It’s interesting to note that Kay Bailey Hutchinson voted for the act…AFTER she tried to water it down by introducing amendments that would have done just that. Lots of talk that she’s gunning to be mittens’ running mate.

    Because you know, we’ll all forget the very real War on Women and vote for her just because she has the same genitalia we do.

    Insert big eye roll.

  13. prairie pond

    But never fear, girls. Big Pharma and the FDA are always looking out for us.

    Insert another big eyeroll…

    • wicked

      Stendra, which belongs to the same class of medicines called PDE5 inhibitors as Viagra, Eli Lilly’s Cialis and Levitra, sold by GlaxoSmithKline and Bayer, works by increasing blood flow to the penis.

      Now if they could just find a drug to increase blood flow to the BIG HEAD, we’d have something to cheer about.

  14. U.S. Senate passes LGBT-inclusive Violence Against Women Act reauthorization bill

    The Task Force applauds the U.S. Senate’s passage by a vote of 68-31 today of the Violence Against Women Act (VAWA) reauthorization bill, which for the first time includes explicit protections for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) survivors of domestic violence.

  15. This link has a video of the presentation President Obama made last night at the Correspondent’s Dinner. He was funny, poked fun at several people including himself.

  16. Rachel Maddow Makes History and Triumphs over the War On Women

    Castellanos’s behavior towards Maddow proved that the Republican Party has declared war on women. By watching the video, you can see his condescending tone directed at Maddow. When he said that he appreciated her passion, but that she was wrong, he was trying to portray her as an irrational woman who was being guided by her emotions.

    The fact that Alex Castellanos thought he had the right to demean Dr. Rachel Maddow’s intellect because she is a woman demonstrates that the Republican Party’s war on women goes deeper than politics and policy. In their hearts, they truly believe that women aren’t equal to men.

    The goal was to put Rachel Maddow in her place, and to stop the “hysteria” from the “girls” who don’t understand that because men say so there is no war on women and pay gap.

    When Rachel Maddow called out Alex Castellanos’s misogyny on Meet The Press it was an historic moment in the push back against the war on women. I can’t remember another woman in the media standing up and calling out the condescending behavior of the right wing champions of the war on women. The mainstream media, except for MSNBC, has mostly ignored the war on women. Much like the Republican Party, the media has acted like it does not exist.

    Republicans are afraid. They don’t want the country to know about their anti-woman agenda, and they would love nothing more than to discredit one of the primary national watchdogs of their behavior, Rachel Maddow.

    more and the video —

    • I plan to watch Rachel tomorrow night. I think she’ll have something to say about this attempt to pat her on the head and make her mind the men.

      The condescension is not tolerable!

      Remember one particular male blogger over at WEBlog? That’s the way he treated the women on the blog. He’d offer up some endearing words and condescending compliments. I always wondered if that worked for him at home, and always suspected at home he was whipped. Men like that seem afraid someone will recognize their weaknesses. So childish, since all humans (male and female) have a mixture of strengths and weaknesses.

      • prairie pond

        To take on Dr.Rachel Maddow on her turf, policy, and on her medium, television, and expect to make her look like a stereotypical dumb, hysterical woman? OMG That is a sucker bet that could only be made by someone who’s ego is waaaaaay bigger than his brain.

        Repuke men are some DUMB mother truckers, aren’t they?

      • If Alex Castellanos had kept his mouth shut he could have ensured a better outcome. All he proved is he has no respect for women. Those are the exact tactics that will keep women motivated to continue fighting this very real republican war on women!

      • Because republican men are so inept when it comes to women they manage to be our ally in keeping this war in the fore front! Here’s what HuffPo has to say about this dullard —

      • I goggled, “Alex Castellanos women don’t make less than men.”

        About 76,500 results (0.22 seconds)

        Yep! Way to get this republican WAR ON WOMEN out of the news! 🙂