Saturday, 11/19/11, Public Square


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26 responses to “Saturday, 11/19/11, Public Square

  1. We haven’t talked about the news last week of the economy showing more signs of recovery and stability. No, nothing dramatic, but this was in the news —

    “The Conference Board’s Leading Economic Indicators Index rose 0.9% in October, outpacing increases in the previous two months and providing some grounds for hope of more robust economic growth to come.

    The index, comprised of 10 components, is intended to signal economic trends by taking a comprehensive look at the data. This month, nine out of 10 indicators were positive. The increase was sharply higher than those in September and August — which came in at only 0.1% and 0.3%, respectively — and beat a forecast complied by Bloomberg, whose survey of 56 economists came up with a median prediction of 0.6%.”

    See full article from DailyFinance:

  2. Today’s thread header is sooooo ‘right on.’

    The republicans have been destroying America for the last three decades, ruining the economy and blaming government. Now that their wars, deregulations and tax cuts have brought America to her knees, they are using the dismal economy they created to convince Americans all social programs must be decimated. We can’t afford them, they say. We’re broke, they say. They believed government was no good and are doing everything they can to make their beliefs a reality.

    It isn’t good news to republicans that the economy is showing signs of improvement. But it’s real good news for Americans!

  3. This is how they should all be required to dress!

  4. Currently watching a video from UC-Davis, where students were blatantly pepper-sprayed. Why are these officers in complete riot gear, when students and people (OCW and all Occupy) are not rioting? I think it’s to make people who see small glimpses think the protesters are doing something that might be dangerous to these officers.

    Three UC Davis videos

  5. Whoda thunk it was a Christian nutcase? (snort)

    BOISE, Idaho — An Idaho man accused of firing an assault rifle at the White House believed he was Jesus and thought President Barack Obama was the Antichrist, according to court documents and those who knew him. At one point, he even suggested to an acquaintance the president was planning to implant computer tracking chips into children.


    • You know, there were a few times I would’ve welcomed a computer tracking chip in at least one of my children. It never failed that when we went shopping, she always got lost.

      • I remember when my kids were growing up (80’s and early 90’s) – there were those leash-type things for kids.

        Do you remember those?

        I have not seen one of them in years – were they banned?

      • Yes, we used them! My parents had a leather set for me when I was very small. Kept me from falling into Brice and Grand Canyon. 😉

  6. Looks like Republicans are more than just a little scared of the OWS Movement.

    Pay close attention to the close association these people have with House Speaker John Bohener.

    If this goes viral – expect the 99% to get even more ticked off and then Johnny B will be crying some real tears as he has to hand over that gavel to the next speaker of the House – Nancy Pelosi..

    Can’t wait for that day – I’d better stock up on popcorn – it’s going to be a fun election campaign.

    • thanks for sharing….I give alot of kudos to this soldier and his husband.

      As for that part about Santorum denouncing the booing at the debate – I don’t remember him or any of the other candidates saying much when asked the next day or the following days?

      But I do have one big question for Santorum – if he does not want sex to be a part of the military – then where is his demonization of those heteosexual males that continue to rape and assault fellow women soldiers?

      Hmmm……don’t hear much about that HUGE problem from Republicans – do we?

  7. Let’s hope OWS and others here in the US never get this bad.

    Tahrir Square in Egypt–
    In scenes reminiscent of the 18-day uprising, protesters and police forces hurled rocks at each other, and crowds swarmed an armored police truck, rocking it and setting it ablaze. Black smoke rose over the crowd. Witnesses said the violence began when riot police dismantled a small tent camp set up to commemorate protesters killed in the uprising and attacked around 200 peaceful demonstrators who had camped out in the square overnight.

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    • Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

  8. Just a few months ago as the debt ceiling crisis created by Republicans mounted, tensions were high. Most economists (and otherwise sane people) knew that if the US faulted on its debt it would likely create a global financial crisis. And yet the Republicans seemed willing to let that happen if their demands weren’t met. President Obama had crafted a “Grand Bargain” that would cut the deficit by $4 trillion in a balanced way – cutting spending and raising revenues. But Republicans would have none of it.

    At that point, President Obama and the Democrats had three choices:

    1. Let the economy collapse (unthinkable)
    2. Send the country into a constitutional crisis by invoking the 14th amendment – thereby probably contributing to an economic collapse
    3. Outsmart the Republicans in creating a deal

    We all know that they chose #3 – but too many folks didn’t think through the strategy of the deal and simply bought into Speaker Boehner’s bluster when he said he’d gotten 98% of what he wanted. Some of us actually took a moment to analyze it and noticed how well the Democrats had done. But with an assist from the MSM and the poutragers, the meme of “weak Democrats” prevailed once again.

    Just to review, the deal set up a Super Committee in Congress that was tasked with finding $1.2 trillion in deficit reductions over the next 10 years. They had to agree on a plan by Nov. 23rd (next Wednesday) and if so, it would be expedited through Congress without amendments or the possibility of a filibuster (therefore it would only need 50 votes in the Senate). If they failed, automatic cuts would be “triggered” to happen January 1, 2013 – half coming in across-the-board cuts to domestic programs and half from defense. However, Democrats were able to exempt Social Security, Medicaid, unemployment insurance, programs for low-income families, and civilian and military retirement from the triggered cuts and limit Medicare cuts to 2% for providers. Since none of that guaranteed an increase in revenue, President Obama said that absent a “balanced approach,” he would veto any extension of the Bush tax cuts, which are also set to expire January 1, 2013.

    As of today, we are 5 days away from the deadline and there doesn’t seem to be any deal from the Super Committee in sight. Some people are starting to recognize what I said over a month ago…failure to reach a deal will change the entire dynamic of the 2012 election. Here’s Brian Buetler.

    Failure is very much an option. And if failure happens, Capitol Hill politics will take a severe turn heading into the 2012 election….

    After Wednesday, the panel will no longer have the power to submit amendment- and filibuster-proof legislation to the Congress for a guaranteed vote. That means cleaning up the mess will have to happen in the regular order, setting the stage for the biggest election year legislative food fight in decades.

    What President Obama and the Democrats did with this deal was to not only rescue the hostage of the global economy, but completely change the dynamics of negotiations to give themselves all the leverage. With the looming defense cuts and the expiration of the Bush tax cuts, they will be the one’s who can walk away from the table if their demands aren’t met. As I’ve said before, Republicans have been stripped of their ability to simply obstruct and will have to proactively work to get something done.

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  9. At today’s ‘forum on moral values,’ in Des Moines, Iowa, Newt Gingrich answered this question: “”Is there a moral justification for war?”

    said this is what he would tell Iran regarding acquiring nuclear capability: “You have a very short time to solve this on your own & if you don’t, we will solve it for you & we frankly couldn’t care what the rest of the world thinks. We’re going to get it done.”

    They are banging the war drums loudly!

    After all they have no ideas or solutions for America’s economic woes !

    • Alogn with no ideas or solutions – Newt and Gang have those profit-hungry private contractors in the miltary industrial complex salivatng at the thought of all those billions or trilions (?) they can gouge the US taxpayers for in their much-desired war with Iran.

      If Newt and GAng want to go fight Iran – let them all go on a one-way ticket to any desert in Iran.

      Let’s have one of those begging-for-money telethons that these televangelists do so often to get the money for those one-way tickets?

      In fact, let’s throw in those televangelists and really cleanse America from it’s cancerous hate.

    • I’ve often said that the corporations have used our military as their security forces in those hell-hole countries that Republicans seem to love to go to war with – such as Iraq, Afghanistan and now Iran.

      I’m tired of our noble soldiers have to watch out for some panty-waist corporate heads in those countries.

      I say it’s time to let these Corporate Critters watch out for their own butts – ruffled panties and all.