Wednesday, 10/19/11, Public Square


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  1. Ole Mitt got excited and aggressive last night! Didn’t conduct himself appropriately in my opinion. Would he (like bush the lesser) reach out and grab the shoulder of a world leader?

    Romney’s outbursts and argumentative style reminded me how lucky we are to have a calm, cool, classy, intelligent, controlled Commander in Chief in President Obama!

  2. We’ve talked a lot recently about how the GOP appears to be falling apart thanks to the extremists within the party who have pushed it further and further to the right. And that isn’t just opinion — a former GOP insider has also recently come forward to expose the truth about his former employers, and he doesn’t have a lot of nice things to say about the Republican Party. Ring of Fire’s Sam Seder talks with Mike Lofgren, the former Republican staffer who says that he’s glad that he managed to escape the GOP cult.

  3. Boehner, where are the jobs?

    Although Boehner said, “We’re going to have a relentless focus on creating jobs,” here is a chronological list of legislative activities by the GOP beginning 2-10-2011. I’m sorry to report that none, so far, have resulted in a single new job being created in America.

    Read list here:

    Sorry. No job creation here. In fact, if you want to really understand what the Republican Party is trying to do, simply replace the word “jobs” with the words “corporate profits.”

    I’ll keep adding to this list until the Republican House does something to create jobs but I unhappily predict this is gonna be one lonnnnng list. After all, you don’t get rid of a sitting president by helping the economy.

  4. GOP Contenders Hold ‘Raucous’ Debate In Vegas

    The reviews are in about last night’s CNN Republican presidential debate in Las Vegas and the consensus seems to be that it was a slugfest in Sin City:

    Read reviews:

  5. Not only did the republican debaters get raucous and in one another’s faces, Mitch McConnell was more than a little ‘testy’ too!


    Obama Decides That Republican Asshats in Congress Won’t Pass Anything
    Decides To Take His Message To The American People.
    Turkey McConnell Blows His Top.

    The republicans are a cranky bunch!

  6. I made a change to our blog today. If anyone doesn’t like it I will undo it immediately! Don’t stay quiet, speak up!

    • I’m sorry. 😦 I don’t see it. Just how blonde am I?

    • freedomwriter

      Well I just had to blog to see what my new critter is going to look like! I am anxiously awaiting this post!

      • freedomwriter

        I look like I am feeling some angst this morning! So I approve of having some fun with the Avatars 🙂

    • I wondered about that little avatar critter…..I approve…

      • I just noticed something – my new little avatar critter looks like an arrow pointing up – and that gives me hope that things are looking up for me and my family.

        Granddaughter is still sick and lung is still fluid filled. They changed her antibiotics yesterday, so in next few days, she might respond better to new meds.

        I just returned from oncolgoist visit and my CT scan and lab results were all fine and showing no recurrence of cancer. So YEAH…….

        Seeing this little arrow pointing upwards is a good sign…..I love this little avatar. And he’s purple – that’s my favorite color.

  7. Here, for example, is the breakdown of what self-identified Republican voters think of the components of President Obama’s American Jobs Act, as it currently exists in the U.S. Senate:

    Do you favor or oppose “cutting the payroll tax for all American workers”?

    Republicans in favor: 58%
    Republicans opposed: 40%

    Do you favor or oppose “providing federal money to state governments to allow them to hire teachers and first responders”?

    Republicans in favor: 63%
    Republicans opposed: 36%

    Do you favor or oppose “increasing federal spending to build and repair roads, bridges, and schools”?

    Republicans in favor: 54%
    Republicans opposed: 46%

    Do you favor or oppose “increasing federal aid to unemployed workers”?

    Republicans in favor: 36%
    Republicans opposed: 63%

    Do you favor or oppose “increasing the taxes paid by people who make more than one million dollars a year”?

    Republicans in favor: 56%
    Republicans opposed: 43%

    Remember, overall, each of these ideas enjoy broad national support, but I’m highlighting the opinions of Republicans only. And in four of the five key parts to the Democratic plan, self-identified GOP voters approve of Obama’s ideas, in some cases by wide margins.

    I mention this in part to show just how mainstream the American Jobs Act is, but also to note the chasm between Republican voters and Republican policymakers. With 63% of the GOP’s rank-and-file supporting, for example, aid to states to protect teachers’ and first responders’ jobs, it’s tempting to think at least some GOP lawmakers in Washington would support the idea. But in reality, that’s just not the case — literally zero Republicans on Capitol Hill are willing to even allow a vote on a popular jobs idea, during a jobs crisis, that even their own party’s voters strongly support.

    Congratulations, congressional Republicans. You’re now far more extreme than your own supporters.

    • I agree! It is a must read! Here’s how it begins:

      “Yes, of course, we all have very strong differences of opinion on many issues. However, like our Founding Fathers before us, we must put aside our differences and unite to fight a common enemy.

      It has now become evident to a critical mass that the Republican and Democratic parties, along with all three branches of our government, have been bought off by a well-organized Economic Elite who are tactically destroying our way of life. The harsh truth is that 99% of the US population no longer has political representation. The US economy, government and tax system are now blatantly rigged against us.

      Current statistical societal indicators clearly demonstrate that a strategic attack has been launched and an analysis of current governmental policies prove that conditions for 99% of Americans will continue to deteriorate. The Economic Elite have engineered a financial coup and have brought war to our doorstep. . . and make no mistake, they have launched a war to eliminate the US middle class.

      To those who feel I am using extreme rhetoric, I ask you to please take a few minutes of your time to hear me out and research the evidence put forth. The facts are there for the unprejudiced, rational and reasoned mind to absorb. It is the unfortunate reality of our current crisis.

      Unless we all unite and organize on common ground, our very way of life and the ideals that our country was founded upon will continue to unravel.

      Before exposing exactly who the Economic Elite are, and discussing common sense ways in which we can defeat them, let’s take a look at how much damage they have already caused.”

  8. I read this about ‘Occupy’:

    In Tucson police are, instead of arresting protestors, giving tickets that cost $1,000, per arrest, per day.

    In Atlanta ‘Occupy’ protesters don’t appreciate MoveOn changing or affecting their message and ended a march early.

    • About those Tucson tickets – IIRC the Wichita Tea Party people got well-deserved parking tickets but yet when they all whined to the government that these folks profess to hate so much, all those tickets were dismissed.

      Perhaps the Tucson OWS protesters just need to learn to do the GOP Whine Song?

  9. Jon Stewart: The Republican battle cry awakens the people — just not the people Republicans had in mind.

  10. The chart above does not contain figures for higher-income levels because those numbers are so huge that they throw the entire illustration out of scale. For those making more than $1 million, for example, the average savings under the Cain plan is $455,247. So figures that large had to be given a chart of their own.’s-9-9-9-plan-would-cut-taxes-for-the-rich-raise-taxes-for-almost-everyone-else/

  11. Republican lawmakers across the country have called for those seeking temporary government assistance to be drug tested. One state representative wants to extend the principle one step further, and drug test recipients of corporate welfare.

    Ohio state Rep. Robert Hagan said that if Republicans wanted to be consistent, they should drug test everyone who receives public money, including politicians, judges and recipients of the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) — rather than just working and middle class people.

    • I heard about this yesterday. HOORAY for this guy!!

      I also heard Gov Rick Scott blowing his horn about how great his drug testing of Medicaid recipients was going. When asked what the results were – he said he thought about 2% tested positive.

      Hmm, 2% of a population that has been demonized as nothing more than druggies? As Rachel Maddow asked – I wonder what the percentage of positive drug results is in the general population?

      I would also love to know what the percentage of positive drug tests in the medical field would be – I suspect we would all be shivering in our boots if we really knew the answer to that one.

      I’ve worked in the medical field for a long time and I’ve seen some things that are not pretty.

      • BTW – Wasn’t Rick Scott’s wife somehow connected to the drug testing company who is making money off the evil government? Maybe I am mistaken???

        I wonder if that has anything to do with how hard Rick Scott was blowing his horn about his successful drug testing program?

      • One of the more popular services at Solantic, the urgent care chain co-founded by Florida Gov. Rick Scott, is drug testing, according to Solantic CEO Karen Bowling.

        The Palm Beach Post reported in an exclusive story two weeks ago that while Scott divested his interest in Solantic in January, the controlling shares went to a trust in his wife’s name.

        Solantic charges $35 for drug tests.

      • Wow – $35 a pop times how many guaranteed testings.

        That could run up to some serious money……

        But, I’m sure since it is going to the ‘right’ people, it’s okay. Even if it’s money from that evil government these same ‘right’ people profess to hate so much…

        heavy sarcasm////

  12. Obama Sees More Negative Media Coverage Than GOP Rivals

    In the varied field of 2012 presidential contenders, one candidate has endured more staggeringly disproportionate negative media coverage than any other: President Obama.

    That’s according to a new study by the Pew Research Center’s Project for Excellence in Journalism. Pew found that during the past five months, the president received almost four times more negative coverage than positive coverage, 34 percent to 9 percent. Of the men and women running for the White House, only Newt Gingrich received a higher percentage of negative media coverage with 35 percent, although that figure was offset by positive coverage of roughly 15 percent.

    Politico notes that at least some of the disparity between Obama’s coverage and that of his GOP rivals is a result of the news media covering “the president mostly as a president, not a candidate,” meaning that he also routinely takes top billing in stories about the faltering economy.

    Still, the results appear to contradict the perception held by many conservatives that the media is willing to grant Obama greater leeway than his Republican challengers, particularly those candidates championed by the Tea Party and its like-minded allies.

    Rick Perry can lay claim to the title of the most positively covered candidate, with a positive-negative coverage split of 32-20 – that despite the media fallout from the recent revelation of a racial slur on a sign at Perry’s family hunting camp. The Texan governor also received the most total media coverage of any of the Republican contenders.

    Following Perry on the list of contenders who received the greatest percentage of positive coverage were two even bigger surprises: Sarah Palin and Michele Bachmann, both of whom received positive coverage 31 percent of the time. Palin (who managed to remain a GOP contender for months despite never convincing most people that she was serious about being a White House candidate) saw negative coverage 22 percent of the time, one point less than Bachmann.

    Current GOP frontrunners Herman Cain and Mitt Romney took the number four and five spots with more balanced coverage. Cain received 28 percent positive and 23 percent negative coverage; Romney’s coverage was 26 percent positive and 27 percent negative.

  13. After 35 years serving on the Supreme Court, Justice John Paul Stevens retired last year. Appointed by President Gerald Ford in 1975, Stevens was the third-longest-serving justice in the court’s history. Now 91, he spends his days playing tennis, lecturing and writing. But instead of legal briefs and opinions, Stevens is now sharing personal stories from his time on the Supreme Court.

    His newly released memoir, Five Chiefs: A Supreme Court Memoir, is about the five Supreme Court chief justices he personally knew: Fred Vinson, Earl Warren, Warren Burger, William Rehnquist and John Roberts. Stevens clerked during Vinson’s appointment, practiced law during Warren’s tenure, and served on the court with Burger, Rehnquist and Roberts.

    In his final decade on the court, some of his best known opinions were his dissenting ones — in Bush v. Gore, which stopped the Florida recount; and in Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission, which ended restrictions on corporate spending in elections.

  14. Tony Blankley (sp?) – a Conservative Republican – was just on MSNBC with Tamron Hall and he said these OWS protesters were unAmerican because they want to get rid of all debt.

    Have I missed something?

    The issue was about Herman Cain’s stance taken last night that he stands by his comment he made about the OWS protesters that if you’re not rich or don’t have a job, blame yourselves – not Wall Street or the banks.

    Tony Blankley was defending Cain’s position and that applause from the crowd at last nights’ debate when Cain defended his earlier statement about the OWS protesters.

    So, I guess Conservative Republicans are demonizing all the OWS protesters as just lazy hippies and/or bums that cannot get a job and then blame everyone else but themselves.

    But in the same breath – Blankley stated that some poll found that 85% of the OWS protesters are employed.

    SO exactly what is his frickin point??

    And what exactly did he mean by the OWS protesters just want to get rid of all their debt?

    The message I have gotten from the OWS protesters is that the 1% have been given the tax breaks and/or government subsidies for the past 30 years and the 99% are the ones who have been paying for the 1% to become rich.

    I’ve never heard of any OWS protester demanding their debt to be wiped off the books – or am I missing something?

    • BTW – Wasn’t this Tony Blankley connected to Newt Gingrich when Newtie was Speaker of the House and that Contract ON America crap?

      Of course, Newt Gingrich was also faced with ethical problems while he was Speaker – IIRC.

      And we are supposed to listen to this Blankley person about anyone he deems unAmerican?

      • P.S. – Tamron Hall questioned Tony Blankley about that getting rid of debt comment – she told him back, in no uncertain terms, that she did not think that was what OWS was about.

        Tamron Hall also made the statement that we would all like to be Steve Jobs. But in reality, we all know that we will not be rich and it was not anyone’s fault.

      • Hmmmm, I don’t want to be Steve Jobs. A) He’s no longer alive and, B) Being that rich has never been on my Christmas list.

      • I suspect the majority of those 99% are not even wanting to be rich – they only want to have a stable job that enables them to have a good life.

        I’ve never been rich – but I’ve know rich people. Some are very happy with they have and they are the ones that know their wealth is a blessing and use that blessing to help others.

        Then there other rich people I’ve known that are so money hungry that they begrudge any one else even the opportunity to have any wealth.

        There is greed. But then there is something I’ve noticed in the past few years blantantly apparent in the GOP – and that is this attitude that nobody else ‘deserves’ to have anything. It’s not that these rich people want or need it – they just don’t want the other guy to get something. I noticed that during those townhall disturbances by the Tea Party Protesters. These were generally people on government-sponsored Medicare fighting because other Americans were going to get health care through the health care reform bill.

        But what the kicker is – the current GOP’s agenda is to abolish their Medicare and the health care reform bill.

        So rather than fighting to keep their Medicare – these Tea Party bullies in those town halls actually helped to elect those very same people who are now trying to abolish the Medicare.

        It is all so bizarre.

  15. Here is an article and the link to a video clip of Herman Cain’s comment when he is blaming the unemployed for being jobless and not rich.

    • Did anyone see or hear anything from the candidates on that stage last night that would appeal to a single person outside the republican base? I’ve always known it was likely they would nominate someone who was unelectable. Last night I realized it doesn’t even matter which one they choose.

      • I did not watch the debate – but I’ve seen the reruns for the highlights on today’s news coverage.

        I also heard this debate was the first time any candidate as ever physically reached out and touched another candidate. Romney reached out and touched Perry while they were going at it.

        But I thought Rick Perry had a good point – if Romney did know for a year about hiring illegal immigrants for his household help and did nothing about it – then that fact should be brought out into the open.

        But did you notice how Romney just laughed? How arrogant was that?

        But not one single person on that stage last night was anything close to presidential material.

        God help us all if any of them get anywhere near the White House.

  16. Add another to the list of republican activity that does NOT create a single job! Just another attempt by a republican man to control women. It seems their women give a very misleading idea of what women are capable of! Let’s be sure everyone we know is aware of what is happening!


    Anti-choice Sen. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.) just filed an anti-choice amendment to a bill related to agriculture, transportation, housing, and other programs. The DeMint amendment could bar discussion of abortion over the Internet and through videoconferencing, even if a woman’s health is at risk and if this kind of communication with her doctor is her best option to receive care.

    DeMint’s bill is yet another Republican attempt to circumvent women’s constitutional right to an abortion by essentially outlawing doctors from discussing that option with their patients. These so-called “small government” conservatives have no problem inserting government into private conversations between women and their doctors.
    To add insult to injury, DeMint’s underhanded method is to shoehorn this attack on women’s privacy onto an unrelated bill — an insidious effort to push his agenda while avoiding public scrutiny.

    • It’s too bad men cannot get pregnant. I suspect if they had that capability, all these men trying to insert that ‘manliness’ into controlling all women would suddenly disappear.

    • Once again, women and those who support their pro-choice views will be forced to take this bill to the courts. Kansas found out the hard and expensive way that these congress morons can’t just do whatever they want to do.

      And just think, if Herman Cain is elected president, there’ll be no agriculture, transportation, HUD, or other programs that bills like this can be tacked onto. (rolling eyes)

      • 9-9-9 is really 6-6-6

        Isn’t it funny how things like this kinda just fall into place? I wonder if when the genius that concocted the 9-9-9 plan even thought about the Anti-Christi and mark of the beast being 6-6-6?

        Folks, you just cannot make up this stuff…. LMAO

  17. Here is some background on Tony Blankley – this is in 2004 when John Kerry was running for president.

    But read very carefully what Mr. Blankley says about George Soros. A recurring theme is that Soros is an admitted Atheist, but then Soros is a Jew that learned how to survive the Holocaust, but then Soros is a billionaire who is out to influence the American election.

    WTH…… Let’s see – billionaires who use their money to influence American elections. Now why does that sound so familiar???? Isn’t that the Tea Party Express I hear coming down the track???

    Oh, but that’s okay because they are the ‘right’ people.

    I call B.S. on this Blankley guy….

    • Tony Blankley was Newt Gingrich’s press secretary for 7 years. He was also in with the Reagan crowd.

      No wonder this guy does not like the 99% the OWS represent. Sounds to me like this Tony fella is nothing more than a Washington Insider that the Tea Party professes to hate so much and has vowed to get rid of once they got into office.

    • Which came first? Was it the Republican party that made lying one of the pillars of their political platform because they realized a lot of people didn’t bother checking for facts? Or was it the morons who believed what they were told and didn’t check facts?

      Did this start with Reagan? Or was it going on before that? Let’s take a look at “I-am-not-a-crook” Richard Nixon.

      I understand that all politicians lie. It’s in their DNA. But the blatantly ridiculous lies the Republican party is telling now beats all.

      • Reagan perfected the lie of trickle-down economics.

        If Republicans really wanted a balanced budget – then they would follow the footsteps of the last Republican president that actually had a balanced budget – Dwight Eisenhower. And just take a good look at the tax rates during the Eisenhower years. The current 1% are NOT going to like what they read.

        BTW – Eisenhower also warned us about the feeding the military complex beast. He warned us about not letting that beast get too huge. And then what did Reagan do???

        If Republicans really wanted to follow the footsteps of a more recent president that had a balanced budget – that would be Bill Clinton.

        But I suspect the day Republicans admit Clinton actually balanced the budget (and even managed to leave a surplus for GWB) will be the day that Mayan Calendar runs out in 2012.

    • Now this is funny….

      Just imagine if this is really the truth of the the whole story???

      • I have a real problem believing this stuff. And if I’m wrong and it happens, at least I won’t have to pay my income taxes in 2013. 😉

      • You know, wicked, the absolute truth is that no one knows what the future holds or if there is a Heaven or Hell – correct?

        I claim to be a Christian and that is based on my belief in the teachings of Jesus – which is basically unconditional love, compassion and empathy.

        But from listening to these Religous Right Conservative Republicans with their narrow version of Christianity – I don’t want to be go to the same Heaven if these Bible Thumpers are going to be there.

        Think about it – if I don’t like these Bible Thumpers on Earth – why would I choose to live an eternity with these same folks?

        God – NOW that would be my version of Hell…..

      • True, indy. I tend to focus more on the here and now, and not worry about what the afterlife might be. Or even next year! I’m a firm believer in the Golden Rule, not to get me into Heaven, but it just seems right. I guess there may be a shred of Karma in that, but I was taught to be a good person. Period. I don’t always make the grade (I’m human), but at least I try. I leave others to their beliefs, as long as they don’t try to push them on me, whether through proselytizing or legislating. 😉

  18. The GOP debate in-fighting is quite funny to watch – IMHO.

    To think, this is only the beginning of the 2012 campaign. Hang on to your hats and buy stock in popcorn. It’s going to be a long, long year.

  19. To lighten things up in here – on one road trip through Texas (a very long ride), my husband and I were driving because we had been transferred (once again) to Arizona for his nursing home corporation.

    Both kids were in the back seat doing the ususal sibling rivalry thing of incessant whining when after miles and miles of nothing, I looked over at the field and there was one lone cow in the field.

    My husband and I had just had a discussion about his mother (she is a very devout Religious Right Republican) and these words just came out of my mouth without a previous thought –

    If that cow was your mother, my hell would be having to sit next to her for eternity.

    Well, that statement made my husband laugh hysterically and it broke up a rather boring and long drive through West Texas (and if you’ve ever drove through West Texas, you know what I am talking about).

    Nowhere in the Bible are you going to find that description of Hell – LMAO

    While I profess to be a Christian, I am open to all learning from all religions. And I happen to think that all religions have some valuable lessons to learn.

    But the most important lesson I have learned is this – whatever you sow in life, you will reap.

    Which is why I do not want to ever be that cow next to my mother-in-law. Rather than fight with her about religion, we just do not talk. She is the one that chose her church religion over her family – so my conscience is clear.

  20. You’re gonna need some scroll grease.