Friday, 10/14/11, Public Square

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  1. Click on the cartoon and it will open large enough to be read.

    • Well worth the click and read. It’s really not funny to laugh at something that so sadly gets right to the truth of things. On the other hand, if we can’t keep a sense of humor, we’ll go mad soon.

  2. …have fun thwarting giant lizard attacks, rather than be buried by overly complex financial systems… Yep, this would be a republican front-runner.

    Did Herman Cain get 9-9-9 tax plan from SimCity video game?

    “Residents of “SimCity 4 — which was released in 2003 — were living under a system where the default tax rate was 9 percent for commercial taxes, 9 percent for industrial taxes and 9 percent for residential taxes.

    “Kip Katsarelis, a senior producer for Maxis, the company that created the SimCity series, was excited that politicians may be looking to video games for ideas.

    “We encourage politicians to continue to look to innovative games like SimCity for inspiration for social and economic change,” said Katsarelis. “While we at Maxis and Electronic Arts do not endorse any political candidates or their platforms, it’s interesting to see GOP candidate Herman Cain propose a simplified tax system like one we designed for the video game SimCity 4.”

    “Adopting such a simple tax structure, Katsarelis said, would allow fantasy political leaders to focus their energy on infrastructure and national security. “Our game design team thought that an easy to understand taxation system would allow players to focus on building their cities and have fun thwarting giant lizard attacks, rather than be buried by overly complex financial systems.”

    • “Adopting such a simple tax structure, Katsarelis said, would allow fantasy political leaders to focus their energy on infrastructure and national security.

      At least “someone” would be focusing on infrastructure and national security.

  3. Soros: not a funder of Wall Street protests

    (Reuters) – George Soros isn’t a financial backer of the Wall Street protests, despite speculation by critics including radio host Rush Limbaugh that the billionaire investor has helped fuel the anti-capitalist movement.

    Limbaugh summed up the chatter when he told his listeners last week, “George Soros money is behind this.”

    Soros spokesman Michael Vachon said that Soros has not “funded the protests directly or indirectly.” He added: “Assertions to the contrary are an attempt by those who oppose the protesters to cast doubt on the authenticity of the movement.”

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  4. Rise up and be counted

    The Revolution is here. Despite initial resistance from major news sources, it is now being televised. Across the country, across the world, tens of thousands of people are marching in the streets.

    At first they ignored us. On Twitter, you can see my heated exchanges with a CNN News anchor (Ali Velshi) who told me in a snarky manner that Occupy Wall Street was not a story. Then the mocking began as they tried to paint everyone involved as “dirty hippies”, “leftist lunatic Communists” and other ad hominem attacks. Now that they’ve failed in that, they’re ready to unleash the dogs.

    Yet, with every arrest, with every use of pepper spray, the crowds grow larger and pop up in new cities. This is a wave that cannot be stopped and the people who stand in opposition will be swept out. They will find themselves on the losing side of history. Politicians are suddenly paying attention and trying to co-opt, to harness the energy of the movement for their own gain. President Obama has said that he sides with the protesters, but he has got corporate money in his coffers as well. I dare say that the vast majority of incumbents do as well, this has to end.

    The ideological purists of the Occupy movement are angered at the thought that politicians are trying to use the energy for their campaigns but unfortunately, that is how the system works. Every major social change started with protests and discontent of some sort but ultimately, it took votes cast by Senators, members of Congress or decisions made by the Supreme Court to make it law. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 was the product of activism, protests and sit-ins. So was the abolition of slavery, the repeal of Prohibition, etc.

    Occupy Wall Street is the first, and necessary step. We are learning to shake off our apathy and abandoning the myth that one person does not matter. Yet, I do not believe the current system of inequality can be changed by just protests alone. Next, we have to get involved and make changes through the political system which ultimately decides what is law and what is not. If you have a representative who will listen and vote for the changes that are needed, support them and make sure you keep them honest. If you have a representative that will not listen and is too deeply in the pockets of those who have a vested interest in the status quo, help remove them from office via the ballot box.

    The difference between the Arab Spring and the American Autumn is that in the Arab countries, they were under dictatorships which allowed little or no participation in the political process. Here, we have the ultimate say with our vote. We just have to learn not to be tricked into voting against our self interests. We have to learn that our neighbor is not our enemy for whatever reason we’ve been told in order to divide us against each other. We can reclaim our country, if we really want to.

    • The Civil Rights Act of 1964 was the product of activism, protests and sit-ins. So was the abolition of slavery, the repeal of Prohibition, etc.

      Obviously written by a man, since one of the biggest was left out: Women’s right to vote. Other than that and the fact that “etc.” doesn’t cover it, he’s spot on.

    • I didn’t even have to click to know what song they’d be singing. LOL

      Look how environmentally responsible we are!! We recycle our protest music! 😉

  5. Yesterday the Republican-dominated House went one step too far and everyone must hear exactly what they did in their continued war on women. They passed a bill that says, “Hey God, if you end the life of the fetus, we’ll end the life of the mother.”

    This Bill would NOT stop one single pregnancy from being terminated, but this Bill will end the life of a pregnant woman. This Bill is designed to NOT save the life of a pregnant woman, who wants her fetus to live but through the act of God the fetus is terminating and the mother’s life is at risk, she’s gone to the hospital and this bill requires the hospital to let them both die!

    They killed the Jobs Bill on Tuesday and now they’re dead set on killing women!

    This is the way Republicans spend their time, these are the laws they want implemented.

    • It’s time for women to take control of Congress.

      Damn, it’ll be a pity when Viagra and Cialis won’t be available to men under 90, and then not covered by insurance. 😉

    • I like to remind all Republicans who are so hellbent on repealing Roe v Wade.

      Republicans had total control from 2000 to 2006 and did nothing about abortion.

      But NOW these same folks are so dedicated to the issue of abortion?

      Do I smell an election coming soon?

    • If this bill were to pass the Senate, I’d go out, any member of the House or Senate who voted for it should be aborted…from Congress…and the bedroom, if their wives have any sense.

    • Of course, Republican men don’t think of women as people. And Republican women do the bidding of their men without thinking.

      • Well, some of these Republican women must be willing to settle for all the blonde-in-a-bottle treatments their little hearts can desire and some of them even get a little bauble or two from Tiffanys – from what I’ve heard.

  6. Wall Street sit-in goes global Saturday

    (Reuters) – For an October revolution, dress warm. That’s the word going out – politely – on the Web to rally street protests on Saturday around the globe from New Zealand to Alaska via London, Frankfurt, Washington and, of course, New York, where the past month’s Occupy Wall Street movement has inspired a worldwide yell of anger at banks and financiers.

  7. Speaking of karma, here’s some that’s long overdue! 🙂

    TOPEKA, Kan. – A professional ethics panel recommended Thursday that former Kansas Attorney General Phill Kline have his state law license suspended indefinitely over his conduct during criminal investigations of abortion providers, saying he was “motivated by dishonesty and selfishness.”

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    • Was just reading the comments on this one over at Poor losers were calling those who believe justice was done “bloodthirsty.” They need to take a deep breath and back up a step. Their rhetoric is what causes the mentally less fortunate to do things like kill doctors. These are the same people who were cheering the death of Troy Davis in Georgia. One man–more than possibly innocent–dies, and it’s all right for them to pump their fists and cheer, yet those who condone the license yanking of one State Attorney General, who chose to overstep his legal boundaries, are bloodthirsty. Yeah. Makes perfect sense IYAAR.

      It’s about time Kline gets what he deserves. He broke the law. Period.

      He’ll just find some other state (probably in the south) to renew his license. But at least we don’t have to deal with him anymore.

      Thank you, Kansas Supreme Court, for getting it right!

    • This will only be more ‘proof’ that the evil God-hating, Baby-killing Liberals are out to get Phill Kline.

      Never mind the fact that this man was the Kansas Attorney General and as an Officer of the Court has a duty to uphold all the laws, rules and regulations.

      But, as we all know, thesse Fundies do not think they have to obey the laws, rules and regulations.

      Because, after all, they are God’s favorite…..don’t you know.

  8. After reading article after article, I’ve come to the conclusion that news services (newspapers, TV stations with an online presence, etc.) need to hire some or more copy editors. Either that or the copy editors they have need to go back to grade school and learn grammar, spelling, and (horrors) punctuation.

    And while we’re at it, TV and movie script writers need to brush up on their grammar. What’s with the “at” at the end of sentences? This is my MAJOR grammar pet peeve. I’m constantly reminding my (grown) offspring that they cannot say, “Where’s it at?” But now that TV and movies are using the term regularly, I guess it’s been approved by some flunky with a college degree, who never had a teacher who was allowed to teach basic grammar.


    • With the majority of television now being ‘reality t.v.’ and with a major fair and balanced news network being nothing more than a mouthpiece for the Radical Right Agenda filled with people who want to abolish public education – I don’t think grammar is on these folks’ priority list.

      • It does make you wonder if evangelical zealots and Republicans want to perpetuate more disfunction so they are grooming youths to take their places as adults in society.

  9. All fellow PPP’ers – can I ask for a favor? Send all prayers, well wishes and all the positive energy you can muster for my 5-yr-old granddaughter. She was a direct admit to St. Francis Hospital late yesterday from the doctor’s office.

    What they thought was just a stomach bug from last Saturday went into her lungs and she now has pneumonia.

    As a side note – the doctor took x-rays in his office and said they would be sent to St Francis – when we left at 1am last night, these x-rays were still not there!!!!

    isn’t it nice we don’t have government-run healthcare??

    IIRC – didn’t Obama’s health care reform have something to do with having medical records more readily available and no need to redo tests/and or waiting for the ones already done?

    Also – the diagnosis is pnemonia – but the first dose of antibiotic the kid got was at 10pm last night………After all the nurses, residents, pediatriacian on staff and then the real doctor finally took their turns to pad that bill..

    rant over – for now…..

    • Oh, Indy. Of course prayers, good thoughts, positive energy, and wishes… Is there anything else I can do?

      • No, but thanks for the offer…

        Sorry about my little rant – but we are talking about a patient from a Via Christi Clinic being admitted to a Via Christi hospital – so what’s the BFD?

        Excuse me, since I have been in the Medical Records field for many, many years – this is my biggest pet peeve. I could understand the delay in getting x-rays somewhere else if they were not on the computer database and could be emailed with one push of a button.

        Of course, one needs to know where to email the darn thing -maybe that is the problem?

        I still remember the days when I had a library full of hugh x-rays films that we had to either hand deliver or send by courier to the requesting doctor.

        But somehow I managed to get those out of my office the day they requested the same.

        I guess this comes down to this – no matter how far we go with technology, it still comes down to one thing – will a human being actually follow through?

      • Yes, humans still push the ‘send’ keys.

        Is she better today? I know you must be nearly mad with worry, and you probably have an infant to care for, so when time allows please keep us posted. Or post whatever keeps your mind occupied or …

        We care — a lot!

      • I have a sneaking suspicion that the delay in things and the need for everybody in the hospital to take a look at each patient is some kind of CYA. I’ve never known the medical community to be so anally thorough until the past few years. Well, CYA and $$$$, of course.

    • Poor baby! It’s so tough on the little ones.

      Of course you all have my thoughts and prayers, along with another dose of that positive healing energy to add to fnord’s.

    • Freebird1971

      Got mine coming your way. By the time my son was 4 he had been i the hospital 4 times with that stuff and it is very scary.

  10. Dear Dr. Laura:

    Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God’s Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination… End of debate.

    I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some other elements of God’s Laws and how to follow them.

    1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can’t I own Canadians?

    2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

    3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness – Lev.15: 19-24. The problem is how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

    4. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord – Lev.1:9. The problem is, my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

    5. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath.Exodus 35:2. clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or should I ask the police to do it?

    6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination – Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don’t agree. Can you settle this? Are there ‘degrees’ of abomination?

    7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle- room here?

    8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?

    9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

    10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev.19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? Lev.24:10-16. Couldn’t we just burn them to death at a private family affair, like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

    I know you have studied these things extensively and thus enjoy considerable expertise in such matters, so I am confident you can help. Thank you again for reminding us that God’s word is eternal and unchanging.

    Your adoring fan.

    James M. Kauffman, Ed.D. Professor Emeritus Dept. of Curriculum,
    Instruction, and Special Education University of Virginia

    • We should carry a copy of this in our pockets and computer memory for emergency situations.

      Personally, my favorites are 9 and 10. I’ve wondered why some football players wear gloves. I thought it was because they were playing in a blizzard in Minnesota, but now I know the truth. 🙂 I wonder if the same applies to wood (and aluminum) for baseball and softball players…

  11. TIME Poll: Obama Still Ahead of GOP Rivals, Voters Side With Dems on Taxes

  12. Have you noticed that most of our male bloggers are MIA lately?

    • Yes. Any suggestions for how to find them?

      I see Freebird showed up.

      • No clue. Not that it’s a big deal. (smirking) I just happened to notice.

      • Freebird1971

        Had the afternoon off,went back to the Dr for a check on how my BP meds were working.

      • Are they working?

        I had low blood pressure (low normal that is) until my Mother died and I fell apart. Anyway, my blood pressure needed some help and it took four different meds to get me OK. And I suffered some ill effects — couldn’t sleep, I developed a cough that was so bad I couldn’t complete a sentence without a coughing fit — all from blood pressure meds.

      • Freebird1971

        This one seems to be so far,when I went to the ER my pressure was 180/110 and it has come down quite a bit but like you I am experiencing some side effects but was told they would pass with time and just take it easy and stop smoking,which I am struggling with

      • Quitting smoking is the hardest thing I’ve ever done!

        The only reason I don’t try a cigarette today (I still want one after 9 years!) is because I don’t trust myself — I can’t do that again! I don’t know how I did it once!

        Oh, and I got fat!

        I didn’t give up any habits, I just changed them!

        Tell me obesity is less of a health hazard than smoking.

      • If those side effects don’t go away, try a different med! Like I said, it took four before I found one that both kept my pressure under control and didn’t cause me other problems.

      • Freebird, I figured one or two of you guys–at least–were watching. That’s why I smirked. An excellent way of drawing people out of the shadows. LOL

        And good luck with the no smoking. I’ve made it a year and a half now. I think the key was really wanting to quit. Of course when I step on the scales I want to cry, but my bank account is a little healthier and the asthma has backed off a lot.

      • fnord, I have those moments of craving, too. I take a few deep breaths, remind myself that I DO NOT want to go there again, and it’s forgotten until the next stressful incident.

        I always used to say that I’d rather die younger and skinny than fat and old. But like you, I can’t go through this quitting thing all over again. Can’t afford it, either!

      • Yep! It sure isn’t a decision you make once!

    • Freebird1971

      We may not be posting but we ARE watching!

      • Freebird1971

        Well I figure if I apply the same concepts and principles that have kept me sober for 3 years I should be able to stop smoking.

      • I just don’t want you to disappoint yourself. Be kind to yourself — you deserve it! I don’t know how hard what you’ve already done is, I just know you deserve a lot of credit for what you’ve done and I don’t want you to feel anything less than good about you. So if you smoke a cigarette that doesn’t mean anything more than you smoked a cigarette. It doesn’t mean you failed!

      • One of the differences in the two drugs (alcohol and tobacco) is that one doesn’t alter your ability to make decisions, your reflexes, your ability to drive and operate machinery safely; one does.

  13. Does anyone think she has any idea what she just proposed? Boy, I’ll be so glad when she joins Palin in being out of sight and out of mind. No woman is represented accurately by those two.


    In an appearance Thursday morning on Fox News, Michele Bachmann might have put forward the boldest tax proposal of all Republican candidates: Raising taxes to where they were when Ronald Reagan was president.

    Bachmann criticized Herman Cain’s “9-9-9” tax plan, and its inclusion of a national sales tax.

    “For my tax plan, I take a page out of one of my great economists that I admire, Ronald Reagan,” Bachmann boasted. “And under my tax plan I want to adopt the Reagan tax plan. It brought the economic miracle of the 1980s. Why not go with what works? I want to reinstitute the Reagan tax model from the 1980s.”

    However, as has been previously documented, taxes were higher during the Reagan years than they are now — both in terms of the top income tax rate (for all but the final year of the Reagan presidency), and in terms of the overall tax burden.

  14. We all need to get together — in person!

    toosmart wants to see us all. I want to see us all! Let’s work on that! You know how welcome you all are here. Anyone want to suggest a date?

  15. And they say the 99%ers aren’t organized! 🙂

  16. The Obama administration announced Friday that it has suspended one piece of the landmark health care law which the president signed last year.
    Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius told Congress in a letter that the CLASS Act, which was supposed to provide a new voluntary long-term care insurance program, was unworkable since no actuarially sound way could be figured out to run the program.

    “I do not see a viable path forward for CLASS implementation at this time,” Sebelius said in her letter.

    CLASS stands for “Community Living Assistance Services and Supports.”
    The CLASS Act was a significant piece of the health care bill because it helped make it deficit neutral over the first ten years after enactment, as estimated by the Congressional Budget Office. Thus CLASS helped garner the votes to help the bill pass.

    According to the CBO, the CLASS program would have reduced federal deficits by $86 billion in first 10 years, partly offsetting the increased federal spending due to the other parts of the health care bill. In the first years of CLASS, enrollees would be paying premiums into it but would not be able to collect benefits until 2016.

    In a memo to Congress in April of 2010, Medicare’s chief actuary Richard Foster warned that the program would “face a significant risk of failure” because sicker people would tend to sign up for it and the costs would soon exceed the premium payments. The program, he said, would likely be “unsustainable.”

    In her letter Friday, Sebelius seemed to have reached the same conclusion as Foster did in 2010.

    One of the Republicans who led the opposition to the CLASS Act, Sen. John Thune of South Dakota said Friday, “The administration is finally admitting the CLASS Act entitlement is unsustainable and cannot be implemented. Simply setting aside the program for the near-term is not enough. Repeal is the only solution to ensuring American taxpayers will not be on the hook in the future for this disastrous entitlement.”

    • What kind of a person doesn’t move his motorcycle off a person’s leg?

      And they wonder why the term “pigs” was used in the ’60s.

      While I know that all LEO aren’t sadistic morons, they sure aren’t proving it in NY.

  17. Zippy

    This site is currently overloaded, but it’s gone viral–and worldwide:

    See also:

    • occupytogether is on FB and Twitter. Makes it easy to keep up with what’s going on.

      • Zippy

        Point taken. I will be at the Armory Park tomorrow.

        I am pathologically tired. No surprise to you, I know.

        And, yes, I will join the rest of the world, in every respect, maybe this weekend.

        They’d better watch out.

    • Notice in nearly every incident, if not every, it’s the cops in the white shirts that are throwing punches, shoving people’s heads into car grills, macing women, beating protesters with clubs. These are Lieutenants and higher ranks. Rumor has it that they’ve been paid to do this. After the 3 cops I dealt with back in June, I’ve stopped trusting police, and nothing they do would surprise me, even NYPD cops taking bribes. They try to make it look like they were provoked, but I’ve yet to see that happen.

      Really, just how smart are they, when everybody has a camera and plenty of people are filming everything?

      Bloomberg’s going to have a helluva time getting re-elected.

      • I stopped having any trust or confidence in police long before Occupy. It seems to me they’ve taken on a bunch of little soldier boys who have the “I’ve got a gun” attitude.

      • I’ve known several. Most good, a few not so good. One or two worked on the BTK case, athough I wasn’t aware of it at the time. But you’re right. Little soldier boys (and girls) with guns. Our military sure knows how to screw people up to the max. 😦 I apologize to anyone here who has military or law enforcement members in their family, but it’s the way I feel these days. War is hell, and it never ever goes away for the people who were there.

  18. Hey wicked, I’m going to OccupyWichita tomorrow. Will I see you?

    • I don’t know. I’ve thought about stopping by for a while, but I have some things that must get done. Bleak times could be ahead of I don’t get my butt in gear. If nothing else, I’m there with them in spirit all the time.