Tuesday, 10/4/11, Public Square


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    • NOW this is funny….

      As you all know, I am very cynical about these mega church Evangelical Christians. But I’ve always wondered how they could yammer on and on about how Jesus is their Savior and then do everything in their power to embarrass the name of Christianity.

      These mega church Evangelicals have hijacked the name of Christianity – IMHO

      • Sad — what they’re doing to the name they’ve hijacked! Sadder yet is how they’ve used good innocent people by using God’s name.

        Jesus wept. John 11:35

    • Asher Bob White

      This new picture from the US Empire does not at all resemble the pictures of Him in the Scriptures. And it does not resemble His messages, either. And that is no surprise here, in this contemporary Empire!

      • This cartoon was drawn in jest (I’m sure) but do some research on the Conservative Bible Project – and that will scare the bejeezus out of you.

        There are Conservative Republicans led by Phyllis Schafley’s son who are actually translating the Bible to fit their conservative genda.

        Of course, these folks will spin the story to the tune that they are only ‘fixing’ the Bible to say what God really meant to say …

        Yeah, right……..eyes roll////

        I wonder if these folks realize the Bible has been translated so many times – who the hell knows what the real original words were.

        But I do know that the Jesus I choose to follow taught about love and compassion. Jesus ministered among the outcasts of society, the poor and the sick and never once asked to see their health insurance card, or asked for cash payment before He healed them.

        And if these Conservative Republicans would actually learn from their own Christmas story of how Jesus was born – would someone who only lived to make money allow themselves to be born in a manger because there was no room at the Inn?

        Think about it…….

  1. The Middle Class in America Is Radically Shrinking. Here Are the Stats:

    • 83 percent of all U.S. stocks are in the hands of 1 percent of the people.
    • 61 percent of Americans “always or usually” live paycheck to paycheck, which was up from 49 percent in 2008 and 43 percent in 2007.
    • 66 percent of the income growth between 2001 and 2007 went to the top 1% of all Americans.
    • 36 percent of Americans say that they don’t contribute anything to retirement savings.
    • A staggering 43 percent of Americans have less than $10,000 saved up for retirement.
    • 24 percent of American workers say that they have postponed their planned retirement age in the past year.
    • Over 1.4 million Americans filed for personal bankruptcy in 2009, which represented a 32 percent increase over 2008.
    • Only the top 5 percent of U.S. households have earned enough additional income to match the rise in housing costs since 1975.
    • For the first time in U.S. history, banks own a greater share of residential housing net worth in the United States than all individual Americans put together.
    • In 1950, the ratio of the average executive’s paycheck to the average worker’s paycheck was about 30 to 1. Since the year 2000, that ratio has exploded to between 300 to 500 to one.
    • As of 2007, the bottom 80 percent of American households held about 7% of the liquid financial assets.
    • The bottom 50 percent of income earners in the United States now collectively own less than 1 percent of the nation’s wealth.
    • Average Wall Street bonuses for 2009 were up 17 percent when compared with 2008.
    • In the United States, the average federal worker now earns 60% MORE than the average worker in the private sector.
    • The top 1 percent of U.S. households own nearly twice as much of America’s corporate wealth as they did just 15 years ago.
    • In America today, the average time needed to find a job has risen to a record 35.2 weeks.
    • More than 40 percent of Americans who actually are employed are now working in service jobs, which are often very low paying.
    • or the first time in U.S. history, more than 40 million Americans are on food stamps, and the U.S. Department of Agriculture projects that number will go up to 43 million Americans in 2011.
    • This is what American workers now must compete against: in China a garment worker makes approximately 86 cents an hour and in Cambodia a garment worker makes approximately 22 cents an hour.
    • Approximately 21 percent of all children in the United States are living below the poverty line in 2010 – the highest rate in 20 years.
    • Despite the financial crisis, the number of millionaires in the United States rose a whopping 16 percent to 7.8 million in 2009.
    • The top 10 percent of Americans now earn around 50 percent of our national income.

  2. New Poll Shows Republicans Have It All Wrong With Social Security

    According to a new CNN poll, 80% of Americans think Social Security has been positive for the country, including 70% of young adults and over 90% of senior citizens, the group who benefit the most from the program. Half of those surveyed said they would be open for a fix in the programs long-term issues, but the only negative from the survey came when it showed that 1/3 of Republicans actually believe that Social Security is unconstitutional. Republicans have waged an all out war on the countries most popular and successful program, Social Security.

    While Republicans continue to cement their stance on being the party of big business and for the wealthy, the new CNN poll finds that Americans overwhelmingly want them to stay away from Social Security. The Republicans don’t care much for programs that the poor and elderly benefit from, like Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, because those people aren’t the ones funding their campaigns. The big money donors don’t rely on these programs, so according to Republicans, who needs them?

    • I would be willing to bet that many of those who fall in that “1/3 of Republicans actually believe that Social Security is unconstitutional,” demographic also don’t know that social security is a government program. I’m thinking of the many signs the tea baggers have displayed warning that government needs to stay out of their social security, Medicare…

      They name their organization Taxed Enough Already without understanding taxes are lower than they’ve been in six decades.

    • I don’t know if I would call this speech (made by a comedian / actor) the greatest ever made, but it sure is stock full of truth!

  3. Not terribly long ago — back before 2008 when the economy went to hell in a handbasket — we would have laughed or ignored this article. Now, I pause, I’m not sure it’s so far fetched! If the republicans can they will ruin any chance of recovering from the great recession, and ya know that depression that was barely avoided, they’ll take us there yet! They almost took America down and seems they haven’t lost sight of that goal. They want to do exactly the same things all over again — only harder and faster!


    Economic Doomsday: World’s Experts Predict ‘Total Disaster’

    Earthquakes, hurricanes, tsunamis, nuclear meltdowns…all fade into insignificance compared to the coming whirlwind of financial Armageddon many of the world’s top experts see directly ahead.

    This time, say experts, the sky IS falling!

    Although none of the experts are advising jumping off buildings, they don’t have much advice about anything. Some are at a loss over what to do with their own portfolios let alone any assets others might have. That’s because they predict almost everything will plummet:

    Real estate: think it’s bad? It’ll get worse, they warn.

    Stocks: the Dow was below 1,000 in 1982. It can reach that again say market pundits.

    Bonds: may look good on the surface, but with highly inflated, illusory values they’ll be about as worthless as paper currency. They might be good as pretty wallpaper, for those that happen to still live in dwellings with walls.

    Banks: many more will fail including some of the largest in the world. Same goes for some of the top insurance companies.

    Annuities: although the principal is guaranteed, the currency they’re based on is not. If it takes a barrel of dollars to purchase a loaf of bread, think what the “money” in an annuity will be worth. That’s right, almost nothing.

    more —

  4. Good morning, my hippie friends!

    I use the term “hippie” because those who have and/or are participating in Occupy Wichita have earned the privilege of being called that by the non-thinking in this city. Yeah, I’ve decided it’s a privilege. After all, look what so-called “hippies” did in the ’60s and ’70s to end the war in Vietnam.

    And what about the hippies who didn’t bear the name yet orchestrated this country’s freedom from oppression from the King of England? What the Tea Partiers and wannabe wealthy throw around as an insult is, instead, a name of honor. The men who worked together to unite others, creating a United States were renegades with a dream. Hippies.

    I’ve made the decision not to accept these do-nothings’ choice of words as a slur. Instead, I’ll smile and say ‘thank you’ for the honor. Besides, I always thought it would be fun to be a hippie. 😉

    Now where’s my fringed leather vest?

    • I so agree! And, we can spell (check out the signs), we can speak eloquently (check out the interviews), we can answer questions and are aware of the current state of affairs (check out that we’re fully aware taxes are at a low point AND that the wealthiest have benefitted the most from those low tax rates).

      Hippies! It has an equally good connotation as the word liberals!

    • The comments on the article in the local rag spurred me to write about being a hippie. LOL A real sad lot. Can’t say a whole lot of the article, itself. I really shouldn’t expect much. That way I can’t be disappointed.

      And I really do have a fringed leather vest. Had some real hippie beads, too, that came off a real California hippie. 😉

  5. fnord, have you seen the # on occupywichita? 539!

    • He seems intelligent. I’m pretty sure he possesses enough intelligence to understand he can’t be nominated. No one who is electable can be nominated by that crazy bunch of radicals. Too bad! Our country needs competition for our highest office! As long as the republicans allow the nutty to dictate we won’t get that competition.

      • Christie knows that he is too liberal for the Far Right Evangelicals. I think even the Tea Party people would find him objectionable if they dig into what Christie has actually done as governor.

        But I do think Christie would have been a good competitive candidate.

        On the other hand – due to our currentl political system being so corrupt, mean spirited, down-right hateful – would anyone with an ounce of brain really want to subject themselves and their families into this pubic arena?

        And I mean this is from both parties – this country is too deeply divided.

        I used to think only a real tragedy like the assassination of Presdent Obama (or even an attempted assassination) would be what it takes to unite this country – but I doubt that now.

        I really think the Far Right Radical Fringe Republicans would be dancing in the streets if Obama got shot.

        Now that’s a damn sorry commentary on where our country is today politically – isn’t it?

        But I base this assessment on the Republicans’ recent demonstrations of booing a gay soldier, applauding 234 executions, cheering for an uninsured man in a coma ot die and a so-called televangelist callilng victims of Alzheimers the walking dead.

        I would not be surprised at how low any of these of these folks would stoop to simply to make themselves feel they have ‘won’.

    • Body image is a problem for Christie. I’m not trying to diss him. I could use a diet, myself, but I’d be concerned he might have some health/heart problems.

  6. Interesting link to a poll that was referenced to this morning when I heard that a majority of Republicans did not know that GOP stands for Grand Old Party.

    In reading this entire article – there are alot of interesting resutls to some poll questions.

    Pay close attention to the other results for the GOP question – God’s Own Party got quite a few votes – but so did Grumpy Old People. LMAO


  7. While everyone is debating about the US unemployment rate being too high (which it is), this article makes me wonder …..WTH is going to happen when my two grandkids reach their ages to enter a career field?

    With all this spending cuts to education the Republicans seem hellbent on implementing – what about our country’s future?

    IF this article is the future – then why are we not discussing how Americans can be in the forefront of this new robot employees rage that is about to happen?

    But then that begs the question – shouldn’t science, math and engineering be subjects that all Americans should be emphasizing? The US is already lagging behind other countries on the scale of education.

    With all these spending cuts – how much lower will the US fall?


    • Speaking to the issue of science and Republicans – can these folks really be at the forefront of Science when these are the folks that seem proud to be ignorant of anything scientific?

  8. Nobel Prize winning economist Joseph Stiglitz showed up at “Occupy Wall Street” this week to show his support for the protest and clearly outline what he sees as the worst crimes of the American financial sector.

    In a brief speech amplified by an “echo chamber” of protesters (who shouted Stiglitz’s own words as a group because they’re banned from using megaphones), the Colombia University professor said that Wall Street had become wealthy by “socializing losses and privatizing gain,” calling it a scheme that’s “not capitalism.”

    “After the bubble broke, they continued in their way of disobeying the law, in a sense. Throwing people out of their houses, even in some cases when they didn’t owe money…

    “We bailed out the banks with an understanding that there would be a restoration of lending. All there was was a restoration of bonuses. Unless we deal with the anti-competitive practices with the reckless vending and speculative behavior, with the anti-competitive practices, unless we restore demand to the function it should serve, we won’t have a robust recovery.”


  9. WSClark

    My unsolicited opinion……………………..

    Much has been said and written about the death of the radical anti-American American Muslim cleric and his bomb making friend in Yemen. Many Republicans and some Democrats have criticized the ‘assassination’ and some, as did Representative Ron F. Paul, have called for President Barack Obama to be impeached and removed from office. Most have called the attack a violation of the Constitutional rights of Anwar al-Awlaki. Many have claimed that Obama can now kill any American he wants, using this action as precedent.

    Well, the late Anwar al-Awlaki was not sitting in a cafe in NYC, sipping a latte with friends, when a drone shattered his peace and made pieces of him and his friends. The radical cleric has in the mountains of Yemen, in an area not even controlled by the government of Yemen, which is anti-American to begin with.

    The odds of having Anwar al-Awlaki arrested and extradited to the United States were less than zero. The odds of Anwar al-Awlaki and his friends attacking the US by blowing up an aircraft were good, since they had already tried to do just that. The reason that a tragedy did not happen was thanks only to the incompetence of the bomb maker.

    President Obama’s choice came down to launching an invasion of Yemen or launching a drone. That was it – there was no third option.

    Nearly everyday in America, a violent criminal chooses to resist arrest and fire upon law enforcement officers. The result is usually death for the suspect. When that happens, no one complains. The scenario is virtually the same with the drone attack in Yemen.

    Hundreds, maybe thousands, of American troops would have been killed had Obama opted to attempt to arrest the cleric. The possibility of finding the cleric would have been slim. The diplomatic consequences would have been swift and negative.

    President Obama did the right thing and Americans are safer today because of it.

    And Ron Paul can go screw himself.

    • Most of these same hypocrites now saying this means President Obama might assassinate any American used to yell at the top of their lungs that if you weren’t doing anything wrong you had no worries about The Patriot Act. They’re just hypocrites! They hold whatever opinion is most critical of President Obama and democrats in general. They’ve shown their butts, and we can see how ugly they are! I see jealousy in their complaints — their idol bush the lesser couldn’t hold a candle to President Obama when it comes to being Commander In Chief and actually getting rid of terrorists.

    • A point was made on Real Time last Friday that this al-Alwaki thing was a case of treason. And what’s the punishment for treason?


  10. To occupy Wall Street, occupy the internet first

    Occupy Wall Street is movement, but it is also a Twitter hashtag, a Facebook page and a Livestream event, which means the protest does not even need a physical home. By one estimate Tuesday morning, “Occupy” events were happening in 147 cities, and much of that is the result of social media being used to recruit the young and the computer-literate.

    “OccupyWallStreet is a hashtag revolt,” Jeff Jarvis, a professor of journalism at the City University of New York and author of the blog BuzzMachine, said in a recent post. “A hashtag has no owner, no hierarchy, no canon or credo. It is a blank slate onto which anyone may impose his or her frustrations, complaints, demands, wishes, or principles.”


    Actually, these protests have spread to over 193 different cities across United States. 35 protests are also being held around the world in solidarity in places such as Coppenhagen, Kuala Lumpur, and Hong Kong.


  11. More proof that cutting taxes doesn’t save jobs.

    Report concludes that fifty-eight corporations that accounted for 70 percent of overseas profits repatriated under the 2004-2005 tax break collectively saved $64 billion in taxes, then cut 600,000 jobs through layoffs.

    Citi, BofA Cut Workers After US Tax Holiday-Report
    Report singles out 10 companies for cutting job

    Ten major U.S. corporations, including big banks Citigroup Inc and Bank of America Corp, laid off workers after enjoying a tax holiday in 2004-2005 that had been billed as a form of economic stimulus, said a report released on Tuesday.

  12. I stole this sentence because I think it is so true —

    “If the rock on Rick Perry’s ranch wasn’t meant to welcome the Head of Niger, then he just secured 4 more red states.”

    • Outstanding!

      I like Elizabeth Warren more each time I hear her speak. She will fill Ted’s old seat very well and benefit not just Massachusetts but her country.

  13. WSClark

    The Democrat won (retained) the Governor’s office in West Virginia tonight. Score one for the good guys.

    • Yes. I had heard some were attempting to make this election another referendum on President Obama. I’m sure now that they don’t have the opportunity to place blame on our country’s president they’ll move along to excuses.