Sunday, 10/2/11, Public Square


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28 responses to “Sunday, 10/2/11, Public Square

  1. I don’t think they’re being ignored any longer! This is from Forbes —

    700 arrested after protest on NY’s Brooklyn Bridge

    NEW YORK — More than 700 protesters demonstrating against corporate greed, global warming and social inequality, among other grievances, were arrested Saturday after they swarmed the Brooklyn Bridge and shut down a lane of traffic for several hours in a tense confrontation with police.

    The group Occupy Wall Street has been camped out in a plaza in Manhattan’s Financial District for nearly two weeks staging various marches, and had orchestrated an impromptu trek to Brooklyn on Saturday afternoon. They walked in thick rows on the sidewalk up to the bridge, where some demonstrators spilled onto the roadway after being told to stay on the pedestrian pathway, police said.

  2. I’ve heard many question, “What is this all about?” If nothing more is accomplished than bringing attention to Wall Street greed that will be a great start! If republicans want to run on protecting the greedy at least Americans will see exactly who the republicans are working for. How many Wall Street thieves have been arrested or brought to justice? They stole from all of us! The republicans not only want to be sure they don’t pay a thin dime more of taxes (and all too often this means they pay NO taxes!), they want NO regulations so these crooks can run amuck and continue raping us and the world’s economy.

  3. Occupy Wall Street – Official Demands
    Written by Anonymous

    The Sovereign People’s Movement, represented nationally through the people occupying the various Liberty Square locations across this great country, have laid out and democratically submitted and are currently voting on the list of following Demands to then be distilled into one Unified Common demand of the people.

  4. An even more up-to-date version —

    Declaration of the Occupation of New York City

  5. Me thinks they may have underestimated the people.

    • I think you’re correct. The greed, the protections offered the wealthiest, the deregulations that allow them to pillage and plunder aren’t platforms that are gaining any support. The republicans have nothing else. They’ve effectively reduced their supporters to the old white people who carry around misspelled signs about the government leaving their Medicare alone while protesting ‘Obamacare.’

      Americans have seen more than enough of the protections the republicans give those who don’t need it while cutting funds for the most vulnerable.

      “We are the majority. We are the 99 percent. And we will no longer be silent,” Occupy Wall Street said in a statement.

  6. “I’m mad as hell, and I’m not going to take this anymore.”

    • I like this one, too. Got it from one of the links as someone’s tag line.

      “When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.” – JImi Hendrix

    • Now I’m in awe too. And, as mad as hell and I’m not going to take this anymore.

      • Sad to say, but I’ve never seen the movie. 1976. I was busy with a wedding and then a new job. I’ve heard the quote many times since then, and probably saw part of the scene on the Academy Awards that year when Finch won the Oscar for Best Actor. What amazes me is that nothing has changed in 35 years, except to get worse.

  7. Just a few of the millions of comments, tweets, blog posts… that have made this protest something that will have an impact! —

    There is a strong anti-corporate message, against Citizens united, to reinstate Glass-Stegall, make the banks pay for their crimes, etc. I am elated that people are standing up. Something is starting, we need to help it along

    the protestors are trying to restore the faith and bolster our human spirits – in trust in the good in humanity and a sense of justice and what is right.
    don’t the young people in Kansas deserve more? We may have a lot of red but it is not totally red unless everyone else just gives up and rolls over dead. Don’t Kansans deserve to make a living wage? Don’t our kids deserve good schools with art programs and teachers who are excited about their jobs?


    No pithy easy to digest message? What do you think “Occupy Wall Street” is? Do you really think the average American needs it broken down why we’re protesting Wall Street? I don’t think so. Know what evidence backs me up? The fact that more and more people are turning up everyday in Liberty Park and people across the country are following suit. I think they get the message. “Protest Wall Street” seems to be resonating as a message because the numbers are still swelling.

    So there’s not a simple list of demands? So what? A lot of people are protesting and for a lot of valid reasons. We don’t need to waste energy debating whose issues and needs are the “right” or “official” ones because we don’t have to choose. We need to support each other and be in solidarity with each others’ needs and issues. And that is what is happening at Liberty Park. It is as much a protest as an exercise in real democracy and community.

    You know what else? Maybe we shouldn’t be lowering our standards to those of the Tea Party. Yeah they’ve got simple messaging, but it’s also factually inaccurate. Don’t want your taxes raised? Guess what: unless you’re making more than $200,000 a year, they’re not being raised! Also, Obama is not a socialist (man, we should be so lucky) and “national defense” is only hurting us, in more ways than one.

    Okay, maybe not everyone knows what Citizens United is, but you know one solid tangible thing the Wall Street protests have accomplished? Starting conversations like these all over the country and even the world, online and in real life, where people are talking about these issues. And without the filter of the mainstream media. I bet somebody reading this thread has already googled Citizens United and learned something new. And that’s a good thing.


    I gotta speak up for human rights. Human rights are things people are entitled to by virtue of their humanity. It should not matter whether they can fight or are willing to fight. Children should not have to fight for a good and just education. Nobody should have to fight for food, housing, safety, living wages, healthcare, education, etc. That’s inhumane and I’m not willing to settle for a society with such low standards. Especially since this is NOT a meritocracy or anything near a level-playing field for everyone.


    I was and have been at Liberty Square during the last 12 days. I was at the front of the march yesterday. So perhaps I can shed a little light here. The movement is principally about ending corporate welfare and promoting social and economic justice for all. The 99% movement is about the pharmacy student who spent 100k on the promise of one of those good science jobs and instead makes $15/hr as a pharm tech at CVS part time because we don’t do jobs in America anymore. Or the Iraq vet who did four tours and cant find a job to help you all with jobs hemming and hawing about message. Perhaps it seems unfocused because it contains all of us and not a bunch of white people upset about paying taxes to a black man like the tea party. But that’s also why there are kids sitting on Douglas and sitting in the street in Melbourne holding signs that say the same thing. Find me a teabagger in Melbourne.


    I too am not clear on what the message is. I think it is a movement that is just begining and its spokes persons have yet to evolve. The Arab Spring came out of just the same begining. The sixties and the seventies formed out of the same fabric. I think there will be a colaceing of goals and a united voice and that it will grow. The Steelworkers are holding a big event. Perhaps what we need to do is get all our big guns out and visable in as many places as possible as this movement tries to grow. Unemployment, civil rights, corp welfare, ……. This is class warfare but it was not initiated by a jobs plan it was started by those at the top of the economic heap . Those who will never have enouth wealth or power and are willing to destroy the rest of us to get more. The Lybians endured 40 years before their uprising perhaps this uprising will take hold and prevent what could end up being an American tradgedy for the vast majority of us.

    • The Lybians endured 40 years before their uprising…

      And we’ve endured almost that much, as well.

      It’s time to speak out…and speak out loud enough to be heard, not just mutter among ourselves.

    Doobie Brothers

    You don’t know me but I’m your brother
    I was raised here in this living hell
    You don’t know my kind in your world
    Fairly soon the time will tell
    You…telling me the things you’re gonna do for me
    I ain’t blind and I don’t like what I think I see

    Takin’ it to the streets (takin’ it to the streets)
    Takin’ it to the streets (no more need for runnin’)
    Takin’ it to the streets (Oh, oh-oh, nah, nah)

    Take this message to my brother
    You will find him…everywhere
    Wherever people live together
    Tied in poverty’s despair
    Are you…telling me the things you’re gonna do for me
    I ain’t blind and I don’t like what I think I see

    Takin’ it to the streets (takin’ it to the streets)
    Takin’ it to the streets (no more need for runnin’)
    Takin’ it to the streets (takin it to the streets)
    Takin’ it to the (BREAK)

    Are you…telling me the things you’re gonna do for me (yeah, hah)
    I ain’t blind and I don’t like what I think I see

    Takin’ it to the streets (takin’ it to the streets)
    Takin’ it to the streets (no more need for runnin’)
    Takin’ it to the streets (Ah, yeah)
    Takin’ it to the streets (takin’ it to the streets)
    Takin it to the streets (we’ll discuss it further)
    Takin’ it to the streets (Ah, nah)
    Takin’ it to the streets (takin’ it, takin’ it)
    Takin’ it to the streets (hey, yeah, now)
    Takin’ it to the streets (Takin’…it to the streets)
    Takin’ it to the streets (no more need for runnin’)
    Takin’ it to the streets (no more need for hidin’)
    Takin’ it to the streets (ah, yeah, yeah)
    Takin’ it to the streets (no…more)
    Takin’ it to the streets (yeah, yeah)
    Takin’ it to the streets (takin’ it, takin’ it)
    Takin’ it to the streets (aaaaahhh)
    Takin’ it to the streets (takin’ it, takin’)
    Takin’ it to the streets (no more need)
    Takin’ it to the streets (takin’ it, takin’ it)

  9. There’s supposed to be a live video feed from today’s activities downtown. For anyone curious or for anyone who can’t make it because of other life duties, here’s the link:

  10. Canadian version of Wall Street occupation planned

    Organizers in Toronto and several other Canadian cities say they plan to follow the example of anti-Wall Street activists in the United States by taking to the streets later this month to protest the global financial system.

    The New York activists say they are protesting to bring attention to corporate greed and government-backed bailouts of American banks. Similar demonstrations have already spread to Albuquerque, N.M., Boston and Los Angeles.

    In Toronto, activists say they plan to converge in the city’s financial district on Saturday Oct. 15. A tentative schedule on a website called Occupy Toronto says the occupation will begin at 10 a.m. ET that day. The group plans to use the weekend to organize itself and says it will wait to march on the streets until the Toronto Stock Exchange opens on Monday.

    Canadian protests are also planned for Calgary, Vancouver, Victoria, Ottawa, Montreal, Nova Scotia and Newfoundland, according to a website called Occupy Together.

  11. CapnAmerica

    Old version, 1977, Chicago, IL

    • Oooh, ooh, ooh. I could listen to Michael and the DB all day. My choice of video versions was chosen because it was the first one listed. The damn song had been running through my head from the moment I woke up this a.m.. I grabbed the lyrics first, because, in spite of this being a fantastic piece of music, those words needed to be read without the melody.

      Capn, thank you for this version. It showcases the music, the band, and especially Michael’s talent. And it’s always good to see you here. 😉

  12. CapnAmerica

    Thank you . . . I should hang out here more often, then I wouldn’t have missed the Occupy Wichita event, heh.

    I liked the Doobies better with their first singer and his high tenor, but this is a great song, no doubt.

  13. badbiker

    Koch Brands to Boycott:


    •Antron Carpet Fiber
    •Stainmast­er Carpet


    •Quilted Northern
    •Platinum Plywood

    Internatio­nal Brands:

    •Demak Up
    •Nouvelle Recycling

    • I think I’ll continue to use the TP, but only because I’ll be thinking of Koch each time. I’ll let you all figure out that one. 😉