Sunday, 9/11/11, Public Square


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  1. Corporate Taxes: How Low Can You Go?

    The idea that America’s 35 percent corporate tax rate is stifling U.S. economic growth is almost an article of faith among some politicians.

    The sound bites from Republican presidential debates to campaign stops are basically interchangeable: “We need to bring that corporate tax rate down.”

    But in fact, very few corporations pay taxes on 35 percent of their profits. With the help of complex international tax loopholes, some companies manage to pay almost no corporate tax at all.

    In 2003, Drucker says, Google transferred all of its non-U.S. intellectual property rights to a subsidiary in Ireland.

    “From that point forward,” he says, “any profits coming from sales overseas would be contributed not to the U.S. parent — where they would be taxed at a rate of 35 percent — but to the Irish subsidiary.”

    The corporate tax rate in Ireland? 12.5 percent.

    But Google didn’t stop there, Drucker says. The company used a financial tool known in the corporate tax world as the “double Irish.”

    “The Irish subsidiary pays royalties to a second Irish subsidiary,” Drucker says, this one that declares its tax residency in Bermuda, where there’s no corporate income tax.

    Google faced another problem it had to work around. The company would have to pay taxes to move money directly from Ireland to Bermuda, Drucker says, so it used another tool known as the “Dutch sandwich.”

    “So the payments go from the Irish sub to the Dutch sub to the Bermuda-resident Irish sub,” Drucker says.

    “The combination of these strategies has helped Google cut its effective tax rate overseas to the low-single-digit rate,” he says.

  2. Cliff Robertson
    Born Clifford Parker Robertson III on Sept. 9, 1923
    in La Jolla, CA
    Died Sept. 10, 2011 in Stony Brook University Med Center, NY

  3. The world did change 10 years ago this morning. I hope all the victims have found some peace and comfort over the years that has diminished their grieving and given them hope for the future.

    I’ll never give up my dream of a peaceful world.

    We all remember…

  4. Maybe we’ll all learn how important it is to say, “I love you.” A retired fire fighter remembers his two sons — one a fire fighter like his Dad, another a police officer and both died in the 911 tragedy — John and Joe.

  5. WSClark


    Imagine there’s no Heaven
    It’s easy if you try
    No hell below us
    Above us only sky
    Imagine all the people
    Living for today

    Imagine there’s no countries
    It isn’t hard to do
    Nothing to kill or die for
    And no religion too
    Imagine all the people
    Living life in peace

    You may say that I’m a dreamer
    But I’m not the only one
    I hope someday you’ll join us
    And the world will be as one

    Imagine no possessions
    I wonder if you can
    No need for greed or hunger
    A brotherhood of man
    Imagine all the people
    Sharing all the world

    You may say that I’m a dreamer
    But I’m not the only one
    I hope someday you’ll join us
    And the world will live as one

    John Lennon – 1971

  6. WSClark

    Tea Cons on (nameless) have thoroughly examined the evidence and determined that Bill Clinton was at fault for 9/11 and it was all his fault. Bush is absolved of any responsibility by the Cons.

    Now you know why we have to fight tooth and nail to make sure people know and understand the truth.

    Cons lie.

    • Why would you expect any more of them?

      • WSClark

        I don’t, but the mindset of blaming everything and anything on Democrats grows a little frustrating. Some Tea Cons act as if the Bush years never took place.

        I do better with ignoring the (stuff) but occasionally frustration spills over.

    • indypendent

      I watched a part of Richard Engel and Rachel Maddow’s 9/11 special – did anyone else watch this?

      Richard was talkign to this military general (I guess?) and he was in charge of that 400 group of US military that was in Afghanistan for the 3 months after 9/11 and this guy stated that we had Bin Laden on the run (with the help of Afghans) and that Bin Laden was going into Pakistan. And we should have kept up the fight there.

      But then George W. Bush started the war in Iraq – and this military leader said that he did not know why the president invade Iraq – because we were being successful in the current Afghanistan operation. We had only spent a billion dollars and we only had 400 soldiers at risk – so why the hell go to Iraq?

      This military leader said that by Bush going into Iraq – that gave Bin Laden more ammunition and a recruiting tool to get stronger.

      I have posted this link because it is the only one I have found so far about this. I had not realilzed that we had these 400 soldiers in Afghanistan and we were being so successful for 3 months after 9/11.

      Just imagine – if GWB had stayed out of Iraq – all those trillions of dollars and all those lives we lost and those soldiers’ lives that will never be the same and I am left with one big question –

      WTH George????×1912917

  7. WSClark

    I spent some time with my eleven year old grand daughter, listening to her play her violin and I gave Rufus a good brushing. Both seemed to appreciate the time, although Rufus was reluctant to roll over. He did get a biscuit for being a good boy. I took Morgan, Alice and Smokey out with me, and they enjoyed the fun in the sun. Alice did, however, get in trouble for climbing the tree – she knows better.

    And I laugh everyday – can’t do without it. If you have trouble laughing or taking life too seriously, watch this:

    • Some of the best parts of the Carol Burnett Show was watching them all try to keep a straight face. Harvey Korman always blew it first, then it was a domino effect.

      SNL has a sketch that nearly always goes up, because the writer likes to add little extras to the teleprompter.

  8. indypendent

    I saw a wonderful quote on the board at my work place today:

    If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion. Dali Lahma (sp??)

    Some days are harder than others to follow this – but I understand what Will is trying to say with his comment above.

    Just because I try to have compassion for everyone, does that make it wrong for me to tell Republicans when they are wrong about some issue?

    I choose not to dwell on that nameless place – because I truly believe there are people who will never be happy – so why ruin my day by trying to change them?

    I am only responsible for myself and how I treat and react to others.

    Like I said before – some days it is very hard to follow what I know I need to do…those are usually the days I bite my tongue…LOL

  9. It’s been a great day!

    Griffin and Ginger (who is dog) and I took a walk. He walked about six blocks and sat on a park bench to wait until Ginger and I had finished. He is 3 weeks and 3 days past bi-lateral knee replacement. Makes me smile to see how straight his legs are, how stable his knees are.

    If there are lessons to learn from this 10th anniversary of a very sad day I think they are cherish each day, say I love you, hope there is someone who speaks kindly of you and help wherever you can.

    I am thankful every day for this blog where I always find smart people who lift me up and make me happy to be around them. You guys make my heart rejoice because I’m lucky enough to know you!

    • indypendent

      I admire your upbeat and your self-confessed ‘pollyana’ viewpoint. I just wish I could bottle it up for when I am feeling depressed and grouchy.

      I am so glad you reached out to me all those years ago and asked me to join this blog.

      This is a good place to come to just visit – not everything has to be about politics.

      No matter how hard things get in this world – I still think there is a pendelum somewhere and things eventually even themselves out. There may be wild swings from time to time – but for the most part, the center is where most of our country really lives.

  10. indypendent

    You know Will – Tea Cons will never change. They will continue to push their agenda and as long as there are gullible people, they will be happy (for a awhile).

    But just wait until Rick Perry gets in and takes away their Medicare and Social Security – then I want to see these Tea Cons do the happy dance.

  11. indypendent

    fnord – good to hear Griffin is doing so well. Isn’t it amazing?

    I have a co-worker that had his knees done last year and he is practically running up those stairs to work now. I still remember when he could barely walk up to the 3rd floor and then just to walk back and forth in the office was such a struggle.

    It is truly amazing what can be done nowadays. Now if we could only fix this health care system so everybody can enjoy the benefits of all this wonderful medical technology.