Thursday, 9/1/11, Public Square

Dick Cheney’s memoir In My Time has reawakened the controversies surrounding the Iraq war and rankled many of his former colleagues.  What does he think he has to gain from his ‘spreading lies’ book tour?  Has he  finally just lost any sense he may have had?


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38 responses to “Thursday, 9/1/11, Public Square

  1. Condoleezza Rice fires back at Cheney memoir
    She takes issue with some of the former vice president’s assertions, calls them ‘cheap shots’

  2. Palin to Tea Party: No O’Donnell

    Christine O’Donnell has been kicked out of the grizzly den: Tea Party of America President Ken Crow said he had to cancel an appearance by O’Donnell in order to convince Sarah Palin to attend. “I had to cancel Ms. O’Donnell,” Crow said after speaking with Palin aides. Both women were originally scheduled the rally in Indianpolis on Saturday, but then Palin alerted organizers that her appearance was “on hold.” After O’Donnell was canceled, Palin said once again that she would attend. The Los Angeles Times says Palin was angry with O’Donnell for originally telling the event organizers that the former Alaska governor wanted her to attend.,0,3765536.story

    • Oh, boy! Cat fight!

      Palin is such an attention whore. (We’ll see if that one slips through the censors.) Neither one has the common sense God gave a baboon. As long as one person is watching, they’ll continue. Sad.

      • WSClark

        “Get yer tickets! Get yer tickets right here! Sarah and Chrissie Cat Fight! Get yer tickets! Witch-off for three rounds! Get yer tickets right here!”

    • Asher Bob White

      Brings to mind the book named ‘Queen Bee.’

  3. Another hot day on tap and this one is predicted to be the 51st 100+ day this year breaking the record set in 1936. Can you even imagine what those hot days were like back then!? None of us are too happy about this summer’s heat and most of us have A/C.

    • I remember 1980 with no AC. And I was a lot younger and easier to keep cool. I pray next week’s forecast is right. I’ve forgotten what temps in the 80s are like…except at night.

  4. I think Cheney’s problem is that he hasn’t gotten any attention lately, and his time is running out. Just one more stinky old goat that needs to be kept out in the pasture. Dubya has figured that out. 😉

    • indypendent

      On some level I think Cheney is trying feverishly to make his action ‘right’ by way of necessity at the time.

      What I mean by that is – maybe Larry Wilkerson is right when he said Cheney fears prosecution. And to a NeoCon – an aggressive offense is a good defense. so he goes on the attack now and gets everyone talking about hos his intended targets respond rather than the actual facts during the run up to the Iraq War.

      Or maybe Cheney is facing his ultimate end of life scenario (after all, the man does have a mechanical heart pump – the best taxpayer money can buy) and that has got to be sobering thought.

      Maybe the Tin Man is desperately seeking some sense of vindication? And for that – I would advise Dick to go see Televangelist Pat Robertson. Those two should get along quite well. They both seem to have the same goals.

      • I believe there are silver linings behind dark clouds and I see one silver lining being the neocons were exposed. It is a different world and it would be much more difficult for the neocons to get by with their desire to rule the world militarily. Most people today see the sense in allowing countries to govern themselves, decide what form of government works best for them, and for the U.S. to cooperate with other countries instead of interfering or trying to rule.

    • indy, it very well could be a CYA move. Better to keep quiet than to remind people exactly what was done and why.

  5. Gov. Jon Huntsman’s jobs plan: ‘Straightforward and common sense’

    If you collect job plans, this is your time.

    On Wednesday Republican former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman jumped to the front of the line and issued his jobs plan. (See excerpts and full text below.)

    Another former \governor, Mitt Romney of Massachusetts, will soon be issuing his. And after some fumbled negotiations in public, House Speaker John Boehner and the Obama White House agreed last evening that 137 weeks into his administration, the president will speak to a joint session of Congress with his latest plan to create jobs.

    If the past nearly 32 months are any indication, none of them will pass, work or matter. Unemployment, which was supposed to stay beneath 8% if we threw $787 billion in stimnulus money at it, is now 9.1%. Consumer confidence has tanked. Economic growth is virtually stagnant.

    Except for jobs plan speechwriters. They are in huge demand. This morning we have here first some excerpts from Huntsman’s speech Wednesday. After the excerpts we have the full text of his jobs plan remarks.

    And we will be doing the same for the upcoming plans with cross-referencing links to each, so Ticket readers can compare. First, Huntsman:

    • Amazing. They’re finally talking jobs. How long has it taken them? 9-10 years? Because it isn’t like unemployment suddenly happened the minute Obama took office. I remember how it was during Dubya’s two terms, and it wasn’t anything to brag about. There was an initial job loss, with high unemployment, and then new jobs were stagnant. But the Rs never said a word, except to say everything was fine and dandy, nor did they bother to do anything about it. Seriously, Dubya’s numbers on jobs were horrible.

  6. Fear, Inc.: America’s Islamophobia Network

    At this time last year, as the ninth anniversary of the September 11 attacks approached, the country was gripped by a pernicious debate over a “mosque” (really, an Islamic cultural center) near Ground Zero in New York City.

    The report, titled “Fear, Inc.,” names five “experts” who generate a huge amount of misinformation about Islam. They are:
       • Frank Gaffney at the Center for Security Policy
       • David Yerushalmi at the Society of Americans for National Existence
       • Daniel Pipes at the Middle East Forum
       • Spencer, of Jihad Watch and Stop Islamization of America
       • Steven Emerson of the Investigative Project on Terrorism

    Meanwhile, seven foundations have donated no less than $40 million to Islamophobic think tanks like these over the past ten years. They are:
       • Donors Capital Fund
       • Richard Mellon Scaife foundations
       • Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation
       • Newton D. & Rochelle F. Becker foundations and charitable trust
       • Russell Berrie Foundation
       • Anchorage Charitable Fund and William Rosenwald Family Fund
       • Fairbrook Foundation

    In extensive detail, the report describes how this small group of donors fund a cluster of think tanks that promote rank Islamophobia, and how their misinformation is spread through a network of conservative media and grassroots organizers like Geller. The important context here is that anti-Islam sentiment is growing in the decade since the September 11 attacks: an ABC News taken last year in the wake of the Ground Zero mosque debate showed 49 percent of Americans had a negative view of Islam, compared with just 39 percent in October 2002.

    The biggest contributor to these efforts, by far, is the Donors Capital Fund, which has given over $20.7 million to groups like Emerson’s Investigative Project on Terrorism and the Clarion Fund—in fact, Donors Capital Fund fully funded the Clarion Fund’s distribution of the DVD “Obsession: Radical Islam’s War Against the West,” which went to over 28 million swing-state voters before the 2008 presidential election.

    Donors Capital Fund is a philanthropic organization run by a number of conservative heavyweights. The board includes members of the American Enterprise Institute, the Heritage Foundation and Stephen Moore of the Wall Street Journal.

    • Money talks, and the more money thrown into it, the louder the talk is. The louder it becomes, the more people listen, in spite of things like truth and proof. All it takes is a quick look at the conservative movement over the past 30 years.

      • indypendent

        The old saying – Money talks and B.S. walks is very true.

        There is another old saying – gossip travels halfway around the world before the truth puts on its shoes.

        With Fox News being the designated mouthpiece of Conservative Evangelical Republicans – do we really have to wonder why so many people are misinformed?

        Then add on the fact that our major news orgnizations are corporate owned – so they have their own agendas.

        This is what happens when the world is one big corportacy and the only thing that is valued is money.

      • indypendent

        This is certainly not going to help the Islamophobia we have in this country.

        I am not defending any radical Muslim that participated in 9/11 or those who applauded the tragic events that happened that day.

        But I also do not think it is wise for Americans to blame all Muslims for the actions of a few.

        I’ve heard Evangelicals try to claim that all Muslims are jihadists. When I ask them if they think the Crusades, Spanish Inquisition or even the Salem Witch Trials were acts of Christian jihadists and they look at me with a puzzled look – like they had never thought of Christians being capable of murdering innocent people all in the name of their God.

        Religion is man-made and there will always be those people who will justify their religion as their weapon of choice because – after all – God has told them to do whatever they plan to do.

  7. It’s important we at least recognize the truth and point out the nonsense they spread around as ‘facts.’

    This is old (from fall of 2010) but the same lies are still being repeated.

    Eight False Things The Public “Knows” Prior To Election Day

    1. President Obama tripled the deficit.
    Reality: Bush’s last budget had a $1.416 trillion deficit. Obama’s first budget reduced that to $1.29 trillion.

    2. President Obama raised taxes, which hurt the economy.
    Reality: Obama cut taxes. 40% of the “stimulus” was wasted on tax cuts which only create debt, which is why it was so much less effective than it could have been.

    3. President Obama bailed out the banks.
    Reality: While many people conflate the “stimulus” with the bank bailouts, the bank bailouts were requested by President Bush and his Treasury Secretary, former Goldman Sachs CEO Henry Paulson. (Paulson also wanted the bailouts to be “non-reviewable by any court or any agency.”) The bailouts passed and began before the 2008 election of President Obama.

    4. The stimulus didn’t work.
    Reality: The stimulus worked, but was not enough. In fact, according to the Congressional Budget Office, the stimulus raised employment by between 1.4 million and 3.3 million jobs.

    5. Businesses will hire if they get tax cuts.
    Reality: A business hires the right number of employees to meet demand. Having extra cash does not cause a business to hire, but a business that has a demand for what it does will find the money to hire. Businesses want customers, not tax cuts.

    6. Health care reform costs $1 trillion.
    Reality: The health care reform reduces government deficits by $138 billion.

    7. Social Security is a Ponzi scheme, is “going broke,” people live longer, fewer workers per retiree, etc.
    Reality: Social Security has run a surplus since it began, has a trust fund in the trillions, is completely sound for at least 25 more years and cannot legally borrow so cannot contribute to the deficit (compare that to the military budget!) Life expectancy is only longer because fewer babies die; people who reach 65 live about the same number of years as they used to.

    8. Government spending takes money out of the economy.
    Reality: Government is We, the People and the money it spends is on We, the People. Many people do not know that it is government that builds the roads, airports, ports, courts, schools and other things that are the soil in which business thrives. Many people think that all government spending is on “welfare” and “foreign aid” when that is only a small part of the government’s budget.

    • indypendent

      Remember when GWB tried to reclassify fast food jobs as manufacturing jobs in 2004?

      No wonder no Republican said anything negative about GWB’s lack of job creation – GWB simply wanted to switch titles to already exisitng jobs but hey manufacturing sounds alot better than flipping burgers – huh?

      Isn’t this kinda the same tactic Bush and Gang used when these same folks did not put the costs of the two wars in the budget? boy, didn’t that make a difference in that budget ?

      When are two wars not really two wars – when GWB is in charge and that Chinese Credit Card debt is not listed as what it really is – a debt.

      • indypendent

        P.S. – can we really blame the Republicans for trying to reclassify something into a bigger and better thing?

        Take for example when Reagan (the Republicans’ Golden Idol) tried to classify ketchup as a vegetable for school lunches?

        It says alot about a group of people who actually still worship someone who thinks ketchup is a vegetable. Let’s all get a big bowl of ketchup right now and eat it in memory of The Gipper – shall we?

  8. …”And after a flurry of finger-pointing in and from all directions, the White House gave in and said the speech could be Thursday night after all. The White House looked whipped, and wailing from the president’s partisans immediately filled the air.

    But what else was the man to do, in the end, given the exposure created by the original White House gambit? Should he show up on Wednesday night to an empty House chamber? Give the speech someplace else? Go on for days kvetching about the unprecedented rebuff by the Speaker, the intransigence of the House Republicans and the sheer disrespect both imply?

    The president could have done any of these things, but it would not have brought the government any closer to stimulating any additional economic growth or creating any jobs. And it probably would not have done him much good politically, either.

    The truth is, for the partisans who are driving the process in Washington, improving the economy and creating jobs is less important than winning the elections of 2012.

    But for a president, there is still a distinction between what serves political ends and what helps the country. He can choose one or the other, but he knows his decision will have real consequences. That sets him apart from all the people with access to the internet, and it sets him apart from leaders in Congress as well.

    But why did the White House wade into this particular miasma in the first place? Was it coincidence that Wednesday night was the first debate to include the new GOP front-runner, Texas Gov. Rick Perry? Or was it a naked effort to upstage the opposition?

    It might have been one or the other or even both. The first day next week when both House and Senate are back at work is Wednesday. The next night, Thursday, is far less appealing because it is the night the NFL kicks off its new season. Friday night? No president who wants an audience ever asks for a joint session on a Friday night, much less a weekend…”

  9. WSClark

    The reality concerning jobs is quite simple and there isn’t a whole heck of a lot we can do about it.

    Employment is always the lagging indicator in an economic turndown. Always. The working man or woman is the first to feel the effects of a faltering economy and the last to benefit when the economy recovers.

    To add to his/her misery, businesses find out during a lay-off period that they can ‘get by’ with fewer employees. Work-arounds, streamlined procedures, shared workloads, etc., conspire to reduce the need for more workers. It just happens that way.

    The only thing that creates jobs is demand. No amount of cash in the coffers will change that simple fact – businesses will hire when demand dictates that they increase production or services.

    All the bullshit about uncertainty about Obamacare and taxes is just smoke screen politics. Create demand and the hiring manager will hire.

    • indypendent

      Serious question – what do you think will happen if a Far Right Republican gets into the White House in 2012 and then does not follow through on yet another GOP promise of creating jobs?

      Will the American people tolerate all the Far Right Republicans’ social issue laws being rammed down our throats? ‘

      What if Mitt Romney happens to get into the White House? He is more into the business end of things and not so much the social issues – what if Corporate Friend Mitt gets into the White House. Will the American people suddenly forget about how Republicans are going to create jobs?

      If Congess does not function now – what will happen if the next guy or gal in the White House ends up to be nothing more than the Do-Nothing Congress 87% of the Americans hate?

      • WSClark

        The only way the government can ‘stimulate’ jobs is by spending money – pure Keynesian Economics. The so-called Reagan Revolution was spurred by spending, not by any trickle down economics. If you look at Fed spending in the early Eighties, Ronnie blew out anything that had been spent before. That spending created demand – I lived through the upturn – and Ronnie got the credit.

        Unfortunately, today’s GOP is so intent on defeating that ‘colored guy’ in the White House that they will do the exact opposite of what is needed to get the economy moving.

        Once the GOP’ers have control again, they will have to come up with the excuses for why they have to do what Obama would have done to get the economy rolling again.

        I once said that if the American working people wanted to, collectively, they could destroy GM within a year. No company, no matter how big can be taken down if demand disappears.

        (As a footnote, GM almost destroyed themselves by killing their own demand by making crappy cars.)

      • I don’t know what will happen.

        I do know, for absolutely sure, that if the future is not better it will be blamed on someone / anyone outside the Republican Party. If it is better the Republicans will claim they did it all. Their memories will continue to only include what they want to remember.

        I’ve said this so many times you’re all tired of hearing it, but I put a great deal of confidence in our younger generation. They don’t hate or discriminate to the extent former generations have. They’ve grown up in our global world and diversity is something they celebrate.

        The other positive I see is that the older folks (that certainly includes me!) will die. Along with them many of those ‘social’ issues will no longer be issues. That won’t ‘fix’ the income gap, the corpocracy, the bought and paid for congress critters, but when those social issues are taken out of the equation maybe voters will finally recognize the real problems government should be addressing.

      • indypendent

        fnord – I agree with you about the younger generation. I just wish these same people would learn how important it is to vote.

        But I think these people are used to be walked on, stomped on, lied to and then expected to do 2-3 people’s workload for the same pay (if they’re lucky and are not forced to take a paycut).

        These young people need to learn the value of forming their own grassroots movement and show some corporate loving tea drinkers how their tea has become toxic.

  10. Preventive Services Covered by Private Health Plans under the Affordable Care Act

    The Affordable Care Act created new requirements that private insurers cover preventive services, including routine immunizations, screenings for conditions such as cancer and high cholesterol, and preventive services for women. This fact sheet outlines these prevention requirements and discusses the impact they may have.

    Under the ACA, private health plans – other than those that were in existence prior to March 23, 2010 and have “grandfathered” status – must provide coverage for a range of preventive services and may not charge any copayments, deductibles, or co-insurance to patients receiving these services. The majority of the preventive care requirements went into effect for non-grandfathered plans beginning on September 23, 2010; starting August 1, 2012, non-grandfathered insurance plans will be required to cover the additional services recommended for women’s preventive care. The fact sheet examines which types of preventive services must be offered to individuals in general and which preventive services must be offered to special populations such as children, youth and women. A table is also available with a summary of federally-recommended preventive services.

    Fact Sheet

  11. CNN and “Opinion Research Center” — The Numbers Don’t Add Up

    – snip –

    “…when a new poll of the 2012 GOP race was released, showing Rick Perry with a commanding lead at 27% as compared with Mitt Romney’s 14%. Perhaps most shocking in this most recent poll was a precipitous drop in declared support for Texas Congressman Ron Paul, who received just 6% as compared with 12% in a poll by the same company and news agency not even three weeks prior – a drop that falls outside the margin of error of 4.5% for the Republican sample. Did Ron Paul – who received a mixed bag of media attention, from his near-victory at the Ames Straw Poll to his jabs at FEMA on the eve of a hurricane to the stories of his being a non-story – really experience a statistically significant drop in support over these past three weeks? I had to check the cross-tabs…”

  12. indypendent

    First it was Rep. Allen West from Florida comparing himself to Harriet Tubman leading the blacks off the plantation.

    Now we have Michele Bachmann comparing herself to Margaret Thatcher.

    Earth to Michele Bachmann – I suspect more people admire the late Princess Diana than they admire Margaret Thatcher. Just saying……

    Of course, Diana was about volunteering, trying to rid the world of those bombs left over from all those nasty wars that perhaps the soldiers of Margaret Thatcher in her quest for military superiority had left behind?

    fnord mentioned earlier about the hope of the younger generation. I suspect the younger generation can relate to Princess Diana more than they can Margaret Thatcher. If there is a real God, they do…

    • CapnAmerica

      Yeah, but England DID really kick Argentina’s ass.

      You gotta admit, a major industrial power beat a much weaker banana-republic military force.

      That is truly awe-inspiring.

      It’s like watching Goliath trample David into the dust.

      They must have been so proud . . .

  13. indypendent

    This cannot be good. Seems college graduates’ starting wages have declined. But then factor in the Republicans’ quest to abolish public education and any government programs for college loans – what will the future of America be?

    Maybe GWB was right when he was dubbed the McJobs President? But isn’t there only so much demand for those who flip burgers in this economy?

    I suspect the wealthiest 2% Americans who are really getting some record-breaking increases in their income are not exactly those folks in the nearest drive-thru for a burger, fries and a Diet Coke.

  14. In Jobs Debate, GOP Targets ‘Regulatory Burdens’

    House Republicans got the memo this week from Majority Leader Eric Cantor. The jobs crisis, he told them, would be the focus of their agenda this fall, and votes would be held each week on repealing or stalling government regulations.

    Yet in a survey last month of 250 economists by the National Association for Business Economics, 4 out of 5 agreed that the current regulatory environment for American businesses was, in fact, good. In a July survey done by the Wall Street Journal in July, two-thirds of economists said the lack of jobs is due mainly to a lack of sales.