Wednesday, 8/17/11, Public Square


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18 responses to “Wednesday, 8/17/11, Public Square

  1. And then there is Ron Paul —

  2. One Word Turns the Tea Party Around

    Tea Partiers think:

    The threat to our way of life comes from government, and the solution is to shrink government while freeing corporations from government control.

    Just flip government and corporations in that sentence:

    The threat to our way of life comes from corporations, and the solution is to shrink corporations while freeing government from corporate control.

    Perfect. Now you can explain things like too-big-to-fail banks gambling trillions on the unregulated credit-default-swap market, sinking the economy, and then getting the taxpayers to cover their losses.

    The government/corporate flip fixes just about all the Tea Party rhetoric. For example, John Boehner was trying to pander to the Tea Party when he said:

    The bigger the government the smaller the people.

    But what if he had said “The bigger the corporations, the smaller the people“? That would have been really insightful, and (among other things) would have explained why the working class needs more unions, not less.

    Go to one of those Tea Party web sites full of their favorite anti-government quotes. Do the flip to make them anti-corporate, and you’ve got rhetoric that’s dead-on:

    When one gets in bed with corporations, one must expect the diseases they spread. — Ron Paul

    The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and corporations to gain ground. — Thomas Jefferson

    The corporate solution to a problem is usually as bad as the problem. — Milton Friedman

    We are fast approaching the stage of the ultimate inversion: the stage where a corporation is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may act only by permission. — Ayn Rand

    Ronald Reagan becomes the font of wisdom Tea Partiers believe he is:

    In this present crisis, corporations are not the solution to our problem; corporations are the problem.

    A corporation is like a baby. An alimentary canal with a big appetite at one end and no responsibility at the other.

    Lord Acton said power corrupts. Surely then, if this is true, the more power we give the corporations the more corrupt they will become.

    Man is not free unless corporations are limited.

    “We the people” tell the corporations what to do, they don’t tell us.

  3. An email I agree with and felt was worth posting here —


    Now is the Time to Consider an Amendment to Limit Congress
    The 26th amendment (granting the right to vote for 18 year-olds) took only 3 months & 8 days to be ratified! Why? Simple! The people demanded it. That was in 1971…before computers, before e-mail, before cell phones, etc.

    Of the 27 amendments to the Constitution, seven (7) took 1 year or less to become the law of the land…all because of public pressure.

    I’m asking each addressee to forward this email to a minimum of twenty people on their address list; in turn ask each of those to do likewise.

    In three days, most people in The United States of America will have the message. This is one idea that really should be passed around.

    Congressional Reform Act of 2011

    1. No Tenure / No Pension.
    A Congressman collects a salary while in office and receives no pay when they are out of office.

    2. Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social Security.
    All funds in the Congressional retirement fund move to the Social Security system immediately. All future funds flow into the Social Security system, and Congress participates with the American people. It may not be used for any other purpose.

    3. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan, just as all Americans do.

    4. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise. Congressional pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.

    5. Congress loses their current health care system and participates in the same health care system as the American people.

    6. Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the American people.

    7. All contracts with past and present Congressmen are void effective 1/1/12. The American people did not make this contract with Congressmen. Congressmen made all these contracts for themselves. Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, so ours should serve their term(s), then go home and back to work.

    If each person contacts a minimum of twenty people then it will only take three days for most people (in the U.S. ) to receive the message. Maybe it is time.


    If you agree with the above, pass it on. If not, just delete.

    You are one of my 20+. Please keep it going.

  4. Kansas looses millions and more than 4000 jobs vanish with just two Brownback decisions (i.e. sending back funds to set up exchanges to provide health care and be in compliance with federal law). He’s good at sending money away from Kansas! Can anyone think of anything else he’s good at?


    National Endowment for the Arts won’t fund Kansas programs

    The National Endowment for the Arts says it can’t offer federal matching grants to Kansas this year because the state no longer has its own program.

    Gov. Sam Brownback vetoed state aid to the Kansas Arts Commission. He proposed that fundraising be handled by a new non-government foundation and maintained the state would be eligible for NEA funding.

    But NEA spokeswoman Victoria Hutter said Tuesday that the decision to withdraw state aid to the arts commission prevented federal grant support.

    • indypendent

      I suspect Brownback is good at running for the V.P. nomination for 2012.

      I can picture Brownback pulling a Palin and quitting halfway through his term to run for V.P.

      Of course, Palin, quit her governor job after she lost big time to Obama but Palin did go on to make millions spinning her version of politics.

      That is where Brownback and Palin differ – I don’t see Brownback being able to make millions after losing big to Obama come 2012. Nobody wants to hear this man speak or even care to read his book.

  5. WSClark

    To call the Governor “Sam the Sham” does a great disservice to the original to “Sam the Sham and the Pharaohs.” Brownback doesn’t even make as much sense as “Woolly Bully” and that is saying something.

    • indypendent

      I sing Wooly Bully to my 11-mo old grandson when he is squirming during diaper change (you know that phase when they can roll over so fast and take off crawling with the naked butt hanging out in the air).

      I don’t know why I started singing that song to him – but he always stops and gives me this look like WTH……….

      That is the moment I can catch him and finish the diaper change .

  6. I see Bachmann put another foot in her mouth. Must be a centipede.

    SPARTANBURG, South Carolina (Reuters) – Republican presidential candidate Michele Bachmann offered a “happy birthday” message to the late singer Elvis Presley on Monday, even though August 16 is the anniversary of his death in 1977.

    “Happy Birthday, Elvis!” Bachmann shouted from the stage at a campaign stop in the parking lot of The Beacon, a South Carolina drive-in restaurant famous for its fried food and sweet tea.

    After her stump speech, the congresswoman from Minnesota told a group of reporters that she was happy to be in South Carolina “on the anniversary of Elvis Presley’s death.”

    “He’s still alive. He’s alive in our hearts,” Bachmann said.

    Later, a campaign organizer who did not want to be identified said with a wink: “You celebrate Elvis because he never died.”

    • It seems she only takes her feet out of her mouth long enough to change socks.

    • indypendent

      This is a true story….

      As I’ve shared before, I graduated from a Fundamental Baptist College in the mid 70’s. That is why I have such a distaste and distrust of these Evangelical Christians – I’ve known them for quite awhile now…

      Anyway – a famous televangelist from Memphis was holding revival meetings on campus and after his first sermon, he opened the floor to questions from the audience.

      I was the women’s dormitory monitor at the time and one of my girls got up
      and asked this televangelist if he knew Elvis.

      This televangelist went off on this poor girl and proceeded to tell everyone how evil and degenerate Elvis was and that he did not want to know Elvis because Elvis was headed for Hell.

      Now I ask you – was this any indication of how a true Christian would have responded to this question?

      After the lecture from this old fart, the girl from my dorm raised her hand again and this televangelist obviously exasperated with her said – yes, what now? This girl stood up and loudly said – I happen to love his gospel music, maybe you should listen to it once and see how beautiful the message is.`

      I just sat there and laughed my head off – which in turn got me and the girl from my dorm called into the Head Dorm Manager’s office. The girl was lucky to not be expelled. And somehow it was my fault for allowing this girl to simply ask a question.

      So much for Compassionate Christian Conservatism – huh?

      BTW – This campus also banned the Carpenters music at any and all weddings performed in their church.

      Come on, now – Richard and Karen Carpenter were evil too?

      I’ve said before – I could tell stories about my time there that would keep you on the floor laughing – but some of the stories requires hand gestures for the full effect. LMAO

  7. So President Obama plans a ‘jobs and deficit reduction’ speech shortly after Labor Day according to many headlines. I hope he decides to play offense and let Americans know who has ideas and solutions. There is still no jobs bill in the majority-republican House, and it will be obvious who is holding up help for our citizens and our country’s economy.

    I heard a news commentator saying if President Obama puts out all the ideas for stimulating the jobs markets, and what government can do is fairly limited so it won’t be difficult to include them all, then the republicans will be left with nothing but opposition. Since they have decided their top priority is to make sure Obama is a one-term president they’ll be forced to disagree with even those ideas they would like to support. Shoot, currently they’re even opposing tax cuts!

    I’m pretty sure Americans will notice.

    • indypendent

      From what I’ve heard, Obama’s plan is a big jobs bill that will require money for investment in America.

      And we cannot have that, now can we? How many trillions went into rebuiliding Iraq but not one damn penny for America.

      Perhaps Obama needs to paint this particular picture? GWB and Republicans made sure that Iraq got trillions of dollars for their country and all we got was the short end of the stick.

      Obama needs to get tough – but I’m not sure if he will do what it takes. Obama has never been a confrontational type person. And that has been his downfall with these take-no-prisoners Republicans.

      • indypendent

        Obama should go around the country and be photographed with all the crumbing roads, bridges, schools, etc that needs to be fixed. And then simply put on the screen – call your elected officials and demand this to be fixed.

  8. indypendent

    There she goes again, our little Michele Bachmann, saying things that just are not accurate. And to make this even more delightful in sharing is the fact that this woman voted for the pay increase that she is ranting about.

    I wonder why she never rants about the pay of Congress Critters?

  9. indypendent

    Tea Party people will only poo-poo this idea. Let’s continue on our quest to the bottom…..