GOP on Warpath to Gut EPA – Again???,8599,2086421,00.html?xid=huffpo


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46 responses to “GOP on Warpath to Gut EPA – Again???

  1. prairie pond

    Shouldn’t that be “still” instead of “again”? Did they ever stop trying to destroy NIXON’s EPA?

    And speaking of things environmental, I am just sick to death of living in the midst of all the Holcomb plant wingnuts. They defend that plant like it was one of their religious icons. I have friends who work with/at Sunflower Electric and they are good people. HOW could they have done such bad things in concert with KDHE?

    Some days, the world is just too effed up to live in. Especially out here.

    • indypendent

      You’re right – is should be ‘still’.

      These Republicans that hate all these socialist govenrment programs do not seem to know their history very well. As you pointed out – Nixon’s EPA. Nixon also pushed for employer-mandated health insurance.

      Reagan also raised taxes. Reagan was the one that made part of Social Security taxable.

      But, I am just dreaming if I think any of these modern-day Republicans know anything factually historical.

      Hell – these are the follks that just ‘make stuff up’ and put on their 24/7 bullhorn called Fox News and then the B.S. spreads like wildfire.

      • indypendent

        I wonder how much of that made-up stuff was hacked??

        Republicans and Fox News have always reminded me of the bunch of gossipy church women. We’ve all known these types – haven’t we?

        If they did not have their gossip to spread – their lives would be very dull..

  2. indypendent

    Republicans claim to be the party of no regulations – which they pursue religiously when it comes to wanting to gut the EPA.

    But then these same folks turn around and pass a law with regulations for an abortion clinic – and exactly how is the regulation of having a janitor’s closet of at least 50 sq feet doing any good?

    The hyporcrisy of the Republicans is astounding. They want all regulations to ensure clean air and water to be abolished. But yet they insist on a regulation for a certain-sized janitor closet in every abortion clinic?

    • The GOP thinks the control of women is necessary! Can you even imagine what the world would be like for these old white idiots if they didn’t have their women convinced to do their bidding!? They’d have to be like eveel libaruhl men who respect women and actually enjoy and appreciate women as equals.

      • indypendent

        Do you think these idiots are capable of respecting anyone and appreciate anyone as equal?

      • It is every man for himself, isn’t it? Haven’t they been preaching (on their alter of tax cuts) that if you eliminate government (or starve the beast into submission at minimum) only the strong will survive! To hell with the others! But they need women for ‘certain’ tasks — sexual toys, bearing and rearing children, cooking, cleaning, doing their bidding — ya know, women’s work. So they must keep women under control! Women certainly can’t be allowed to make their own decisions because the first one they might make would be to not do that guys bidding! Thus the GOP war on women and need to keep them in submission.

        At every level of government the GOP make grand promises until they’re elected. Then the most they can accomplish is bills to restrict abortion, or bills to cut off WIC to help women and children.

        It’s important to the GOP to keep women reliant on men.

        I’ll get down off my soapbox before I really get wound up. But I will never respect today’s GOP as long as they continue this war on women!

      • indypendent

        fnord – here is one of those proud Republicans currently engaged in the War on Women. I think we’ve all heard about Rep Steve King – haven’t we?

        Read this article carefully and I suspect you might agree with me that when Steve King talks about a dying civilization – he is really talking about the white Evangelicals majority civilization – as what has been the ‘norm’ for the past 200 years in this country?

      • indypendent

        Here is an article about the decline in the US birth rate.

        Now take this data and mix it with the Evangelicals’ stated desire for their Holy War with Muslims. Is it any wonder why these are the folks that don’t want American women to take birth control?’

        But what I don’t get is – these folks want women to have as many children as possible but yet these are the same folks that do not want to pay any taxes to make a society suitable to raise those children.

        These folks do not want public education or affordable accessible health care. They want no regulations to ensure clean air and water. For that matter, they want no government at all.

        so exactly how are all these children going to have a snowball’s chance in hell to grow up and be productive citizens?

        Oh, I forgot, these children are only desired to become fodder for their upcoming and desired Holy War,.

        BTW – I think this twisted logic also factors into why these are the same folks that insist on calling Obama a Muslim – what do you think?

  3. WSClark

    I will agree that the EPA is sometimes overreaching and tyrannical, and sometimes they are just goofy.

    And Cindy Crawford has a mole on her upper lip and Halle has a tattoo on her butt.

    The GOP seems to take the approach that if they can just find one little flaw, that is grounds for their campaign to destroy the object of their disdain.

    Funny, the Tea Baggers think that Michelle Bachmann is beautiful, but they wouldn’t want any part of ‘Cindy’ because of that mole.

    • indypendent

      This mantra of the GOP is like throwing the baby out with the bath water.

      I am sure there are some regulations that are goofy and have no merit and should be abolished.

      Kinda like that regulation for a certain-sized janitor’s closet for abortion clinics.

    • CapnAmerica

      Clark bar–

      Did you resolve the problem you asked me about?


      • WSClark

        Not yet – I may later, but I haven’t decided. It is like an addiction – you can’t just shoot a little junk.

    • prairie pond

      Halle has a tatoo on her butt??????????

      Please send details immediately!


      • WSClark

        Halle used to have her first husband’s name tattooed on her butt, but she had “David Justice” covered up with a sunflower. (!?!)

        First rule of tattooing – never have a name tattooed on you of someone that can break up with you. My tats have my kid’s and grandkid’s names on them.

  4. indypendent

    Read this article about the American Family Association. This should make everyone fully aware that these people are determined to not let loose of their power grip over America. And I think this is what Tea Party Republicans mean when they say they want to take their country back – back to when white evangelicals were the ruling party.

    I also found something interesting – for Rick Perry’s AFA-paid for Prayer Rally the only governor to accept his invitation to participate was Sam Brownback. Now it is being reported that Brownback is on vacation and it is not known if he will participate or not. But if he does, it will be as an individual and not in his role as governor.
    WTH…..what a turn of events – huh?

    With the much ballyhooed Prayer Rally with an estimated attendance of 30,000 to 35,000 – the last attendance number of reserved seating is for 8,0000.’

    This event seems to be turning out like that Palin fundraiser here in Wichita about two years ago – remember? Very much ballyhooed but in the end – very low attendance and they even had to discount tickets at the last day .

    maybe the brightness has come off the bloom?;scp=1&%2359&_r=1&%2359;sq=American Family Association&%2359;st=cse

    • indypendent

      IMHO – this is exactly why religion and politics should never mix…

      IIRC – the Founding Fathers also must have thought that was a good idea because they made sure that freedom of religion is a guaranteed right.

    • I can see the news coverage now — Brownback, who is on vacation from being the governor of the state of Kansas, “palled around with” some really unsavory types but it was on his own time and his own dime so it doesn’t reflect on him as a governor. It only reflects on him as a person and tells us who he wants to spend his personal time with. He didn’t just happen to show up where these unsavory types also happened to be, he knew well in advance who would be there, who would be giving speeches, what their agendas are…

      In the future when he is running for office we’ll have greater insight into who he chooses to be around in his personal time. Haven’t we been told overandover how much can be determined by “the company one keeps?”

  5. CapnAmerica

    His friends worked to have gays executed in Africa.

    Real nice.

    • indypendent

      In the article I posted, this so-called Christian group believes that unless they stop our current course, homosexuals will be the elitists and Christians will be second class (or something like that).

      With thinking like this – is it any wonder they have friends who advocate executing gays. Now in Africa and soon to come to America – unless, of course, all homosexuals get their gayness ‘prayed away’ by Dr. Marcus Bachmann.

      I know, I know, these so-called Christians profess they do not hate the person, they only hate the sin (as they perceive sin to be). But how do you execute the sin without executing the person?

      But what angers me the most (as I’ve said many times) is this – these peole do NOT represent true Christianity. These people have hijacked Christianity in much the same way they have hijacked the meaning of true patriotism.

      I am more afraid of these people than I am of any Muslim terrorists infiltrating our country. These Religious Zealots are just as much danger as any foreign terrorisgt – IMHO

  6. indypendent

    Look at the Wall Street today…….this is getting serious folks.

    I am listening to a Wall Street analyst right now and she is saying that the good news is that corporations are sitting on $2 trillion in cash. She also said that these corporations are fearful of the regulatory from Washington but they are also fearful that consumer demand is not there – because it has not been there for quite awhile now.

    So let’s see how both parties react to this news. If Republicans continue to play politics and want to paint this as all Obama’s fault – we will be wasting another year plus of this partisan political hacking and bickering back and forth.

    Several people are calling for Obama to just come in with a big plan. He needs to lower tax rates and then get rid of all loopholes and subsidies. And then go for a big infrastructure job plans.

    Of course, these Tea Party Republicans will be right there to stand in his way.

    And, of course, these are the same folks that did not care if the country defaulted just a few days ago.

    One guy just said that Obama is not a confrontational politician and that he just does not like to get down and dirty with his opponents. And from the debt ceiling fiasco we have all watched in the past month – I can see that point of view.

    Maybe it’s time for Obama to make up his mind – does he want to do what is best for the country and possibly be a one-term president – or does he want to play nice with TP Republicans who have demonstrated they are ready to destroy the country in their quest to be ‘right’.

    What do you think Obama will do – or should do?

    • indypendent

      Personally, I would like to take those tea bags and shove them where no sun tea would ever be made.

    • Does this give Republicans any insight into how unwise their ideas about allowing citizens to invest their Social Security savings into the stock market are? Good grief — today millions of seniors would have lost their ability to survive.

      As it is we’re all really thankful about how long and hard those tea party idiots fought to make sure no new revenue would be injected into our economy, aren’t we now? And their insistence on all those cuts seems to really have saved our economy.

  7. WSClark

    Tea Baggers are all about ‘personal responsibility’ and ‘making good choices.’

    First, you have to make a good choice when choosing your parents. It helps if that family is white. Then you need to choose to get into the ‘right schools’ whether it be through family connections or other means. Then choosing your fiends* is very important, so choose those that can help you up the ladder and help bury the bodies along the way.

    It is important to have the right ‘values’ so read Ayn Rand and practice the lessons of “I got mine and I’m gonna take yours.’ If you feel a flicker of compassion in your heart, see your cardiologist immediately.

    If you ever have any doubts, just remember that there would have been no story to tell if Tiny Tim had just chosen his parents better.


    * Somehow, that typo tells the tale better than I ever could.

    • indypendent

      Kinda like yesterday when I said Rick Perry was going to throw his ‘hate’ in the 2012 presidential ring..

      What is that old saying – the truth will always come out?

  8. WSClark

    Nancy Pelosi: Dems Will Be Forceful On Super Committee But Won’t Draw ‘Lines In The Sand’

    Dear Nancy, Please pass this message on to McConnell, Boehner and Cantor: “Fuck you.”

    Duh Cons are already saying that ANY tax increase of any kind is off the table for consideration by the ‘Super Congress.’

    So much for that concept of good faith bargaining.

    • indypendent

      Oh, but these Rebublicans don’t seem to mind when the working people are scheduled to lose our payroll tax holiday at the end of this year.

      We are currently paying a lower payroll tax but starting Jan 1 2012, we may more payroll tax – I call that an increase in taxes.

      But Boehner did not like Obama’s idea of extending the payroll tax holiday. I guess the working people do not exist in Boehner’s GOP world

  9. CapnAmerica

    From that other blog . . .

    File this under “Why are Cons so hard to persuade? Fear, self-righteousness and downright stupidity:

    R_I_D writes that Gen Mullen says pay and benefits for Vets are “on the table” . . . no cuts to hardware though.

    “Even though there are people like you Am_Way who will vote against your own best interest, I will fight forever against benefit cuts for service men and women.

    Not because I personally am entitled to a military pension etc–I’m not–but because it’s the right and moral thing to do.”

    Then Am_Way resonds thusly:
    Those libs gloating about potential cuts to benefits “they suspect” some “CON” bloggers here are getting?

    The gubermint can take all of Uncle Sugars handouts away.

    From anybody.

    Be very careful what you ask for.


    That is wrong, stupid, and misperceived on so many levels, it causes physical cramps to think about it.

    But it does demonstrate the mental brick wall we have to deal with.

    • indypendent

      If only the gubermint would take all those Uncle Sugar tax breaks and subsidies away from corporations outsourcing American jobs.

      NOw that is a change I could believe in…

      • CapnAmerica

        No kidding . . . in CON World, a poor single mom feeding her kid on food stamps is OUTRAGEOUS! but Halliburton misplacing 100 billion dollars in Iraq is . . . yawn . . . business as usual. Nothing to see here . . .

    • For me one of the very best parts about not reading at that blog is not reading at that blog.

      I really appreciate interacting with smart people who are able to understand the word compassion and believe people deserve to be treated with dignity.

      • indypendent

        But isn’t it a satisfaction to know that from Capn’s reporting from over the fence – things really have not changed – have they?

      • indypendent

        I should clarify what I mean by satisfaction….

        We know that we are progressive – and not regressive – so some times we are too quick to embrace everyone. Progressives are not known to have the killer instinct.

        Unfortunately, in today’s TP/GOP world – that killer instinct is worshiped. You can be dumb as a box of rocks in a toilet but as long as you think like a killer, you’re okay in the CON world. It’s all about personal attacks – no facts – jsut personal attacks.

      • WSClark

        @Indy – things haven’t changed – they are worse. Duh Cons have influence on who is banned, and now it is back to being a Con Echo Chamber.

        It’s all snark, distortion, rumors and outright falsehoods.

        When a poster can use, not one but two, racial slurs in the space of fifteen minutes and not get banned, it’s time to move on, especially since that poster had been banned just a few days before that under another nic. He simply went back to a previous handle.

        They can have that joint.

      • Lucky us! We truly appreciate your input, your humor, YOU!

      • indypendent

        I second fnord’s sentiment – we appreciate your wit and humor on our side of the fence.

        I never cared much for snarky fake Christians who gossip, distort and just outright lie about everything and everybody they do not deem as ‘worthy’.

  10. CapnAmerica

    Hmmm . . . this looks interesting . . .


    WASHINGTON — A judge is allowing an Army veteran who says he was imprisoned unjustly and tortured by the U.S. military in Iraq to sue former Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld personally for damages.
    The veteran’s identity is withheld in court filings, but he worked for an American contracting company as a translator for the Marines in the volatile Anbar province before being detained for nine months at Camp Cropper, a U.S. military facility near the Baghdad airport dedicated to holding “high-value” detainees.

    • indypendent

      I am disappointed that the Obama Administration has jumped in and defended Rumsfeld in this lawsuit.

      As I understand it, there are two contractors with similiar lawsuits that Rumfeld is appealing. The decision in those cases is due soon.

      Keith Olbermann had their attorney on tonight’s show. The same attorney is representing all 3 of these men.

  11. indypendent

    Seems the CONS are still waitign for their Messiah to save them all from the evil liberals…

    One hint – they may want to rethink Rick Perry until we see what kind of attendance his Prayer Ralley gets.

    Seriously, if the dude can only attract 8,000 out of estimated 30,000 to 35,000; and this in Texas where so many evangelical millionaire mega preachers currently run their CON shops (oops, I mean churchs – eyes roll), then maybe Ricky is not the best prom date for these Mean Girls this year?,0,4818542.story

  12. indypendent

    While Boehner and GOP Gang high-five one another on a job-well done and Boehner bragging about getting 98% of what he wanted – their favorable poll ratings are abysmal.

    • indypendent

      And not to be left out of the poll ratings – it seems the Tea Party is losing their support – especially from people who make less than $50,000.

      Do you think that’s because those are the working people that Tea Party people seem to hate so much?

      I wonder how many Tea Party people are former union aviation workers who are getting a nice pension check from the union plan and are getting Medicare benefits (taxpayer-funded)? I would really like to be know what percentage of the TP are the very same castegory of people that this group claims are ruining the country?

      It must really come down to one thing – they have theirs and to hell with the next guy.

  13. indypendent

    Harry Reid brokered a short-term deal on the FAA crisis. Wow – the Republicans graciously (eyes roll) agreed to extend the FAA funding until mid-September when the real arguments will again be taken up for debate.

    Hmm, do you think they agreed to this short-term deal because of the bad publicity they were getting in the past few days?

    Transportation Secretary LaHood really gave it good to the Republican obstructionists. IIRC – isn’t LaHood a Republican who is working in Obama’s cabinet?

    • indypendent

      BTW – how convenient it ends in mid-September – just in time for Congress to take up their fighting stances once they return from their 5-weeks vacation.

      That 5-weeks vacation is ticking off alot of working people also……

      I heard on some show today that there are not nearly as many townhalls scheduled to happen during this 5-weeks vacation period as usual.

      Hmmm, do you think it is because of Congress’ abysmal poll ratings these buffoons do not want to see anybody?

  14. WSClark

    “For myself I am an optimist – it does not seem to be much use being anything else.”

    Sir Winston Churchill