Tuesday, 7/26/11, Public Square


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21 responses to “Tuesday, 7/26/11, Public Square

  1. Good morning!

    It’s hot and sticky outside! Yes I know that isn’t news, but do be careful if you’re out and about. Ginger and I went to the park even earlier this morning but it seems there isn’t a time early enough. I looked at some pics of last winter yesterday. Remember how we thought the cold, ice and snow would never end? Kansas on steroids lately.

    • I was out in the shed in the backyard dumping boxes of junk and trash. I now have lots of room for storage! I wonder how long it’ll take to fill it up. LOL

      Seriously, I have 2 large tubed TVs that I need to get rid of, or they’ll haved to go in the shed. It seems no one is taking them for recycling. If anyone here has found a place to take this kind of thing since April when laws apparently changed, let me know!

      • Freebird1971

        You might give the DAV a call

      • That’s a good idea! Today was the day they were on my street so I called last week to ask about some furniture (two recliners and a love seat) I wanted to give away. They picked it up this morning! I thought I might have to pay to have it hauled away and worse yet is that it isn’t torn or stained and has a bunch of use left in it so I’m tickled it will go on to another life.

      • Thanks for the suggestion, Freebird! I’ll definitely give it a try.

  2. What’s also important, but not evident, on this chart is that Obama’s major expenses were temporary — the stimulus is over now — while Bush’s were, effectively, recurring. The Bush tax cuts didn’t just lower revenue for 10 years. It’s clear now that they lowered it indefinitely, which means this chart is understating their true cost. Similarly, the Medicare drug benefit is costing money on perpetuity, not just for two or three years. And Boehner, Ryan and others voted for these laws and, in some cases, helped to craft and pass them.

    To relate this specifically to the debt-ceiling debate, we’re not raising the debt ceiling because of the new policies passed in the past two years. We’re raising the debt ceiling because of the accumulated effect of policies passed in recent decades, many of them under Republicans. It’s convenient for whichever side isn’t in power, or wasn’t recently in power, to blame the debt ceiling on the other party. But it isn’t true.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/obamas-and-bushs-effect-on-the-deficit-in-one-graph/2011/07/25/gIQAELOrYI_blog.html

    • Wow, that graph is all over the internet! Too bad the people who need to see it won’t. They don’t visit “left-wing” websites. 😦

      • Even if they saw it they would deny it.

        Even if they understood revenue cuts that last forever versus temporary ones they would ignore the truth.

      • Think about it. The Republicans are still touting the uber wealthy as job creators even tho jobs haven’t been created while taxes are at the lowest for 60 years. Oh, and they complain about those low taxes too.

        Reality isn’t where they live.

      • Speaking of jobs, I read an article earlier that employer ads (via Monster.com and others) include statements that the unemployed need not apply. Apparently they feel that if you’ve been out of work for 6 months or more, you’re too lazy to find a job or to work, so there’s no need to bother applying.

        This isn’t the link I originally read, but it’ll do in a pinch and it’s the most recent.

        http://www.cnbc.com/id/43895152

  3. Never mind that Americans with adjustable rate mortgages might pay more, never mind that it will cost America more to pay all their debts if the interest rates are higher, never mind any of that because Donald Trump sees a bright side to America defaulting on her debt — he says it will prevent President Obama’s reelection.

    So don’t be fooled that what might help our country or her citizens in foremost in the minds of Republicans! Nope, it is still the same as it’s been since he was elected — to ensure he is a one-term president.

    It’s pretty easy to see which party stands to benefit more from an improved economy. It’s also pretty easy to see which proposals will ensure that our economy doesn’t improve and why.

    Listen to the video and hear him say it in his own words —

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/26/donald-trump-debt-ceiling-default-obama-reelection_n_909716.html#s280957&title=The_Stock_Market

  4. indypendent

    I have always admired Madeleine Albright and she makes common sense when she speaks. This is a woman who has vast knowledge of America and the rest of the countries around the globe.

    I’ll believe this woman over the likes of Boehner, Cantor, McConnell and Grover Norquist any day.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/26/debt-crisis-madeleine-albright_n_909748.html

    • indypendent

      Please note the difference in funding for military defense and the State Department.

      Unfrickin believable…..

      And we profess to be such a godly, moral Christian nation? Dwight Eisenhower’s wisdom is needed very much right now in the GOP. He warned us about the military industrial complex.

    • “And I happen to believe that taxes are the price you pay for living in a civilized country.”

      You tell ’em, Madeleine!!

  5. indypendent

    All the time we are fighitng about this debt ceiling nonsense, is less time we talk about job creation.

    See how this goes???

    As to the Republicans’ contention that tax rates are so abusive that businesses cannot make profits should be told that corporations are making record-breaking profitgs – again.

    If taxes are so terrible – then how are these CEO’s making those huge profits?

  6. fjord you are correct. Cons who see that graph still blame Obama and try to put a positive spin on it.
    Sad…..

  7. Here’s another one of those “compassionate conservatives.”

    When conservative preacher Rick Warren raked in $2.4 million last December for his “Saddleback Church” (an archipelago of high-tech churches, gymnasium courts, restaurants and even a music school sitting on nine campuses of prime California real estate), he didn’t pay a penny of tax on that income. Saddleback Church is tax-exempt despite its wealth.

    Most years, about a third of Americans have an income too low to pay income tax. But lately, more Americans are losing their jobs and sinking deep into poverty. When Rick Warren found out that half of Americans now are so poor that their income doesn’t meet the low minimum threshold for income tax, he vented his all-caps rage on Twitter. His rage wasn’t directed at the misfortune of poverty. No, preacher Warren directed his ire at those nervy jobless poor people who don’t pay income taxes: