Thursday, 7/21/11, Public Square


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  1. Russia classifies beer as alcoholic

    Russian President Dmitry Medvedev has signed a bill that officially classifies beer as alcoholic.

    Until now anything containing less than 10% alcohol in Russia has been considered a foodstuff.

    The move, signed into law on Wednesday, will allow ministers to control the sale of beer in the same way that spirits are controlled.

  2. The previous link I received through one of my lists. Here’s the post that went with it….

    One of the specific charges against one of Rupert Murdoch’s companies is that they paid a private detective to hack into the voice mail of 9/11 victim family members to get access to their private communications both on the day of the attack and after.

    (I wouldn’t put it past the very efficient Murdoch “system” to already be at work trying to head off US Congressional hearings – so keep an eye on how that process unfolds!)

    It may be worth illustrating at this point how Murdoch’s company Fox News (and it’s Bill O’Reilly show) did in fact specifically target at least one family member of a 9/11 victim. Here’s what it looked like in case you missed it the first time around:

    • Among other reasons, that’s why I have that channel blocked on my remote, so I don’t accidentally switch to it. One must watch his blood pressure.

    • I have high hopes Murdock will pay dearly for what he’s done. Today we have absolute zombies incapable of understanding what is happening in our world because it goes against the indoctrination they’ve willingly sought and Murdock has supplied.

      • indypendent

        From your lips to God’s ears…….but I have my doubts as to whether the US politicians will do anything to Rupert Murdoch other than to kiss his feet double the next time.

        I suspect from the UK Parliamentry proceedings, Rupert is going to pull a Reagan in not remembering (and the man is 80 yrs old) and they will give him a free pass.

        Of course, the corporation will have to ‘retire’ Rupert but then the rest of the little Rupies will continue on as usual.

  3. Wordsmiths should find this fun —

    Americanisms: 50 of your most noted examples

    • Thank you, fnord. Only half of those listed make me crazy, thus I am an American. Right?

      • Funny! I felt the same way — half of them made me crazy and most of the other half I was made crazy by the Brit’s way of saying them.

        What else would you call the fringe of hair on the forehead than ‘bangs’? I’m OK with takeout, heads up and train station. Bi-weekly suffices while fortnightly sounds foreign. Is do the maths actually correct?


  4. Nearly 10 Years Ago Today, The U.S. Began Borrowing Billions To Pay For The Bush Tax Cuts

    • indypendent

      But, but we need those Bush tax cuts to create jobs….

      or so I’ve heard…..

      heavy,heavy sarcasm//


    USA ranks #37 in the world in terms of our national debt as % of GDP. We’re half a percentage point lower than the world average, and we’re below the United Kingdom, Israel, Germany, France, and Japan. Maybe the tea partiers who want to destroy our bond rating and default on our loans would like to move to one of the countries of the world with a very low debt-to-GDP ration…somewhere like China (113), Iran (115), Russia (123), or Libya (132).

  6. File:Public debt percent gdp world map

    Seems it’s those “socialist” countries that don’t have any debt at all.

  7. Image too large and ‘key’ doesn’t show. See it here:

  8. indypendent

    I found this thought-provoking article while surfing through HuffingtonPost.

    I wonder if this idea could work – but I suspect that old problem of ‘my God can beat up your God’ will continue to rear its ugly head.

    Call me cynical (because I am) but I’ve seen way too many church feuds with self-righteous people displaying more hatred than the Devil himself.

  9. indypendent

    Speaking of how 9/11 victims have been treated – here is a story about Ann Coulter and her assessment of the 9/11 victims. And don’t I remember Ann Coulter seems to be one of the favorite guests on Fox News.

    If you read this carefully, it seems Ann is particular upset with these 9/11 widows because they dare to have pushed for that independent 9/11 Commission. How dare those women to not just sit back and believe everything Bush and Gang were telling them.

    Who do these women think they are – independent and strong people who are seeking the truth?

    This is really sarcasm//

  10. There are times one would be wrong if they said The ONION uses satire because sometimes it tells it exactly the way it is!

    Congress Continues Debate Over Whether Or Not Nation Should Be Economically Ruined

    WASHINGTON—Members of the U.S. Congress reported Wednesday they were continuing to carefully debate the issue of whether or not they should allow the country to descend into a roiling economic meltdown of historically dire proportions. “It is a question that, I think, is worthy of serious consideration: Should we take steps to avoid a crippling, decades-long depression that would lead to disastrous consequences on a worldwide scale? Or should we not do that?” asked House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-VA), adding that arguments could be made for both sides, and that the debate over ensuring America’s financial solvency versus allowing the nation to default on its debt—which would torpedo stock markets, cause mortgage and interests rates to skyrocket, and decimate the value of the U.S. dollar—is “certainly a conversation worth having.” “Obviously, we don’t want to rush to consensus on whether it is or isn’t a good idea to save the American economy and all our respective livelihoods from certain peril until we’ve examined this thorny dilemma from every angle. And if we’re still discussing this matter on Aug. 2, well, then, so be it.” At press time, President Obama said he personally believed the country should not be economically ruined.

  11. A peaceful gathering of is “encouraged” to move and then the people who disrupted this peaceful gathering were so proud of themselves for getting them to ‘move on’ they posted the video. What do you call this? Does McCarthy come to mind when you see this happening?

    • indypendent

      I watched the History Channel last night about how Hitler got into power in Germany.

      They liked to be bulllies also.

  12. indypendent

    Here’s a question to ponder – do you think Ann Coulter and Allen West went to the same charm school?

    And do you think the teacher of the charm school works for Fox News?

    People who profess to be so superior and constantly using rude bevavior towards all those who disagree with them seems to also be the theme of the cartoon in the topic thread.

    No wonder Fox News is so popular with this targeted audience.

    Of course, Fox News entertainers have already come out and said that Rupert and his News Corp are the victims in this scandal.

    Boo, hoo… hoo…..time to put their big boy pants on.

    After all, if there is nothing to hide, then why all the whining and fussing?

    • Can you imagine what would happen to you or I if we tried feigning ignorance? Would we quickly be reminded that ignorance of the law is no excuse? Is one of the main themes of Fox News personal responsibility?

  13. indypendent

    Just heard on the MSNBC latest news break that the debt talks are going nowhere fast.

    Seems like the Tea Party Republicans are determined to take us all over that cliff.

    Like I said the other day, on one hand maybe that is what needs to happen and then when all hell breaks loose – the Tea Party will be so villified and crucified, they will never see the light of day again.

    But our country has real problems and going off the cliff is not the best way to fix anything.

    But I wonder – for all those who are yelling about not raising any taxes would tell those Bush tax cut recipients to start creating jobs for Americans – then woulnd’t this standoff be moot?

    As I understand it now – Republicans do not want any taxes raised and Democrats want tax revenues on the table. Easy way to fix this is to tell those Wall Street fat cats that were bailed out with taxpayer money are now told to hire people and create jobs. No taxes being raised and there additional tax revenue.

    But then the Tea Party people could not show off how big of a bully they are. And God knows we need more bullies in the political scene.

  14. Have you heard that Grover Norquist (the unelected man who controls the new House Republicans) has said that allowing the Bush tax cuts to expire as scheduled in 2012 doesn’t violate his no new taxes vow?

    • Why do I sense that Grover stands to lose a s**t load of money if things go “over the cliff” and wants to give the Freshman House members cover, so he doesn’t go down with mere mortals, and they stand a slightly better chance at reelection.

      • indypendent

        Grover knows how to CYA when necessary doesn’t he?

      • indypendent

        P.S. – Do you think these Tea Party Republicans will recognize this is the time to CYA with Grover? Or do you think they are happy to be pushing ever so closer to that cliff?

  15. indypendent

    Seems Allen West is finding himself in hotter water over his rude behavior towards Debbie Wasserman Shultz. Poor Mr. West, he is now claiming to be teh victim.

    Why am I not surprised?

    • He is the victim of poor behavior, acting without thinking and an inability to control himself or behave in an adult manner.

  16. indypendent

    This is a WTF moment……..

    Sarah Palin claims to want to clean up journalism? Isn’t she the darling of Fox News – of which Rupert is on the hot seat for a phone hacking scandal in the UK and is being investigated by the FBI for his employees hacking phones of 9/11 victims?

    Notice – this was said to the Christian Broadcasting Network talking head entertainer – yeah, like the CBN entertainers are real journalists.

    It’s almost funny, really. This woman is bragging about studying journalism but yet it took her 5 years and attending how many different colleges to attain that degree? Not saying there is anything wrong with that route – but it does raise alot of questions, doesn’t it?

    • indypendent

      I wonder if ‘real’ journalism entails Pat Robertson going off on one of his tangents as to when Haiti gave their soul to the Devil many years ago. Or why there was a need for his followers to pray for certain Supreme Court Justices to have heart attacks. Or maybe it was the time all Muslims need to be banned from building any mosques.

      There are so many Pat Robertson outrageous remarks he has made – I just wonder – does that make the CBN journalists ‘real’ because not a one of them dared to tell Pat he was wrong?

    • She has to say something to keep her name in the news. Too bad she doesn’t understand the difference between unfavorable and favorable attention.

  17. Speaking of the former Gov,
    I see the “biographical” film about her is being universally panned by critics. I’m sure the “biased, liberal media” will incur her wrath. I noted in reading the bit (on politico, I think) that even the self-described conservative critic had nothing positive to say. But, as fnord notes, it does keep her name in front of the public.

    • indypendent

      IIRC – this film debuted the same weekend as the final Harry Potter movie?

      That alone would make anyone say ….what were you thinking?

      But put that aside, exactly what was she trying to accomplish? From the articles I read, the attendance was totally in the tank. And for those with anything positive to say – it came from her already loyal supporters – so it was not exactly reaching a new audience.

      But the first thing I noticed about Palin’s movie was the title she chose to use…Undefeated???

      Excuse me, but she was defeated in 2008 – so how can she claim to be undefeated? Right off the bat, she has set herself up to be ridiculed. Which makes it very easy for to then blame the lamestream media when she is trashed by the general public. A self-serving prediction of failure?

  18. indypendent

    Read this story – it is fascinating. I cannot help but think about John Lennon’s infamous song – ‘Imagine’.

    Just imagine if we could all learn from the lesson in this true story.

    • But they’re not trying to force their religious beliefs on anyone else. Uh huh. That’s what we always hear anyway. When religion has to be enforced, policed or dictated it has failed. It must be a personal choice to have any meaning.