Thursday, 7/14/11, Public Square


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30 responses to “Thursday, 7/14/11, Public Square

  1. GRAPH: Contrary To GOP Claims, U.S. Has Second Lowest Corporate Taxes In The Developed World

    As a share of GDP, the U.S. had the second lowest tax rate, behind only Iceland. This statistic flips on its head the often-repeated Republican charge that America has the second highest corporate tax rate in the world.

    Conservatives love to point out that other OECD countries have lowered their corporate tax rates in recent years, but they conveniently ignore that “these countries have also closed corporate tax loopholes while the U.S. has expanded them.” As CAP Director for Tax and Budget Policy Michael Linden has noted, the U.S. is actually a very low-tax country across the board.

    Recently, conservative commentator Bill Kristol chastised his own party for pretending that lowering the corporate tax rate is a cure-all for America’s economic woes. On Fox News Sunday, he interrupted a panelist who again tried to assert the U.S. is suffering from a high corporate tax rate: “Republicans are making a mistake if they focus on big businesses and corporate tax rates. Corporations have a ton of cash. The corporate tax rate is not killing big business in America.”

    “Dear US Corporations: You pay 2nd LOWEST tax rate in industrial world, so quit whining or move to Iceland.”

  2. A REAL jobs bill for the American people is a hell of a lot more important than Eric Cantor’s temper tantrums. The GOP has not introduced a single jobs bill, not ONE!

    Boehner, where are the jobs?

  3. Re: The cartoon in the header.

    I don’t know what the truck is, but there’s no need to dig. All that’s needed is to let the air out of the tires.

  4. indypendent

    I suspect this entire political theatre over the debt ceiling is just the display of arrogance by both parties.

    I keep hearing the same rhetoric again and again. When will something actually be accomplished?

    • They have our attention, and that’s a feat since too many Americans don’t pay any attention. Latest polls indicate more blame Republicans for the stalemate, latest polls overwhelmingly show Americans favor the tax codes should be changed so the wealthy don’t end up paying no taxes. The majority of Americans also favor letting the tax cuts on the wealthiest expire. So the Republicans don’t have Americans on their side.

  5. indypendent

    Speaking of political theatre – did you hear Republican Eric Cantor is saying that Obama stormed out of the meeting yesterday?

    The rest of the story is that Cantor rudely interrupted Obama three times and Obama told the little rude boy back.

    But I suspect Eric Cantor’s behavior has very little to do with Obama and everything to do with Cantor’s reported alleged campaign to challenge Boehner for the Speaker’s job. And what better way to get in with the Tea Party Gang than to appear to have made Obama so mad that he storms out of a meeting?

    Tea Party Republicans are filled with such hatred of Obama that these folks will eat up Cantor’s rude behavior like it’s cotton candy.

    Boehner is losing, or has lost, the control of the GOP. With the Far-Right-Wingers in solid control of the GOP, just how much longer can this elephant party stay alive?

    • Temper tantrums like Cantors always make great sound bites, and many people only hear the sound bites. They can recognize temper tantrums when they hear them. Especially because President Obama is the adult in the room whenever he is shown (which is often).

  6. They hated Clinton, too, but there were just enough of them that realized their hate would get them nowhere, so they bit the bullet and actually worked with him. Could it be that there wasn’t nearly as much $$$ going into their pockets from “special interest groups” then as there is now?

    While I had no respect for Dubya, I never hated him or any other Republican president. But then I don’t claim to be the things haters claim to be, then don’t live up to.

    • It may be the new group is ‘better bought.’ It might also be many of them (Bachmann being their poster child) don’t have any sense or ability to actually reason.

  7. Voters blame Bush more than Obama for the economy

    Voters are increasingly displeased with President Obama’s handling of the economy, but a new poll finds most Americans still think George W. Bush is responsible for the nation’s dismal financial state.

    According to a new Quinnipiac poll, 54 percent of those surveyed say Bush is responsible for the “current condition” of the economy, compared to just 27 percent who blame Obama. Among self-described independent voters, a key 2012 voting bloc, the number shifts slightly: 49 percent point the finger at the former GOP president, while 24 percent blame Obama.

    Polls over the last year have consistently found that voters continue to blame Bush more than Obama for the struggling economy. Yet Obama and Democrats have consistently struggled to translate that displeasure with Bush into a vote against GOP candidates.

    But that could be changing. While Obama’s approval rating on the economy is nothing short of dismal—just 38 percent approve—the Quinnipiac poll finds more Americans trust the president on the issue than the GOP congress, 45 percent to 38 percent. Meanwhile, 48 percent of those surveyed say they will blame the GOP congress if a debt deal isn’t approved, compared to 34 percent who say they will blame the Obama administration.

    Those aren’t great numbers for Republicans who are likely to face just as much political peril as Obama in 2012 if the economy doesn’t improve over the next year.

    The Quinnipiac poll also finds major support for one of the concessions Obama has called for in the debt deal: 67 percent say any deal on the deficit should also include tax increases on the wealthy and corporations, in addition to spending cuts.

  8. LOL Well, there is that Clueness factor, too. 🙂

  9. Take the interactive poll below (based on the national survey featured in Halpin’s report) to see how your own ideological leanings stack up against those of your fellow Americans.

    • This is no surprise — I am extremely progressive. 🙂

      Says the average score for Americans is 209.5 / 400
      My score was 340 / 400

      • indypendent

        I just took that survey also – I was rated extremely progressive but my score was a little lower than yours.

        Could my being a Registered Republican be starting to Reaganize me? You’re also a registered GOP – but you don’t seem to be affected by this dreaded disease.

        I hope the doctors have an anecdote for this …

      • Hang in here, Indy! I’ll keep reminding you of the dangers. 🙂

        Some time within the last few weeks there was an article in the newspaper about how many registered Republicans are in Kansas. I had a good laugh! Just about everyone I know in Kansas are ‘registered’ Republicans.

      • WSClark

        I scored a 350. That means I am even more PROGRESSIVE than Fnord.

        Nana Nana Boo Boo!

      • indypendent

        fnord – I wonder how many of those Registered Republicans are voters like me and you?

        I want the power to choose the Republican candidat. At least I have a fighting chance to keep out as many Far-Right Wingers as possible. I know this tactic does not work all the time (as evidenced by 2010) but at least I know I did not contribute to the decline of our country by endorsing these Far Right Wingers.

      • Freebird1971

        Mine was 239

  10. indypendent

    Serioiusly, I have to wonder why Obama even wants to be in the White House for a second term.

    He should take his money and lifetime government perks and let the American people get what they vote for

    After a few short months of President Bachmann – I suspect the impeachment proceedings will start. Or maybe that infamous armed revolution that the Tea Party Republicans always threaten.

    But this time, the Tea Party people are the ones being targeted. Now that would be karma.

    This is my fantasy world speaking – I know our country could not survive a President Bachmann (or any other Far-Right-Winger). We barely survived the little GOP cowboy president.

  11. WSClark

    I tried this post at ‘another blog’ that is famous for know-it-all Cons, but I couldn’t get an answer. Pop Blogger are clearly more logical and smarter, so maybe you can help me out here…………………….

    The House Republicans passed the Ryan Plan, a massive giveaway to the insurance companies, that raises taxes, calls for $6 trillion in new debt and does not cut a penny from defense spending.

    I have often said that I would believe that Cons are serious about deficit reduction when they proposed closing 700 foreign military bases.

    The current Con plan flies in the face of their position in negotiations with the White House to reduce spending and increase the debt ceiling.


    The usual reply is “duh Democrats! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !” Okay, for the sake of debate, “Yes, duh Democrats! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !”

    Now, why are the Republicans arguing AGAINST the very changes that they voted FOR just a few short months ago?


  12. Not only does the Ryan Plan add to the deficit, add tax cuts, and is an all-around stupid piece of legislation, but we now know Ryan will personally benefit financially from it. He’s a snake in the grass.

    The answer to your question is that the only thing that unites Republicans is their opposition to President Obama. Mitch McConnell announced making sure President Obama was a one-term president was his number one goal. They are willing to do anything — and that includes taking America further down — in their attempts to accomplish that shared goal. It’s karma that Americans see through their efforts and blame them for the deadlock!

    Ryan’s Shrewd Budget Payday
    Exclusive: The congressman stands to make money from his stakes in four businesses that lease land to energy companies which would benefit from $45 billion in tax breaks and subsidies in his proposed budget. Daniel Stone reports.

    • indypendent

      Any party that collectively cuts off their nose to spite their face is not exactly the best people to be governing.

      Their deep-hatred of Obama is so intense and so irrational, there is no dealing with these doofuses.

  13. Hey, I’m all for giving insurance companies more money!!

    Sorry I can’t reply to this. The men in those funny white jackets are here to take me on a vacation.

  14. indypendent

    Thought I’d post this as something positive. We all remember Elizabeth Smart from her horrid tragedy of being kidnapped.

    I wish her much luck in bringing attention to our country’s funding for childrens issues.

    IIRC – the first bill that George W. Bush vetoed was the childrens health insurance program SCHIP??