Saturday, 6/11/11, Public Square


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38 responses to “Saturday, 6/11/11, Public Square

  1. Freebird1971

    Happy birthday WS. For the record until Tuesday you are 2 years older than I am

  2. Happy birthday, Will! I hope the day brings exactly what makes you happiest!

  3. A simple video chart, animated and one minute long, makes it easy for even the GOP to understand what’s going on.

  4. The comments in the link are not only about Weiner, but about how women react. These words accurately describe my thoughts, and I suspect I’m not isolated in my thinking.

    Another example, although the blog linked above uses excellent examples. Remember Hank? His style of blogging (and I suspect that style carries over to other interactions) was to call women “dear,” or to comment on women’s appearance — whether it be in a complimentary or demeaning way. When I asked him not to use endearments that sounded belittling and certainly not endearing, he continued. He knew my name; I knew his intent — he wanted to be demeaning or he was as stupid as a fencepost, maybe both. Women know when an endearment is endearing. Women know when a compliment is sincere. Women know the men who respect what they think and feel and are able to sustain a conversation with a female without veering into anything sexual. We respect you for that (or not)!

    • wicked

      Eye-opening and thought provoking. I admit I wasn’t as informed on this whole thing as I should have been until last night. Bill Maher has always been, well, ballsy, for lack of a better word. (Blame it on lack of enough caffeine so far this a.m..) I hadn’t read the texts that were exchanged between Weiner and the Vegas chick, because, well, because I have a life and there are other things going on. But Bill’s last guest, who comes on after the main discussion and is usually someone like Zack from-the-hangover or Matt Taibbi, was Jane Lynch. Yeah, from Glee. (I am not a Gleek.) Bill and Jane read the texts, Bill reading Weiner’s and Jane the female’s. I cringed. It was cybersex on the fly. Totally disgusting, and I was a bit embarrassed to sit there listening to it with my youngest daughter who’s 21. Admittedly she was busy texting. I hope she was keeping it cleaner that what I was hearing.

      Sorry. I’m a prude. I do not find this type of thing sexy or titillating. Just the thing for porn queens and proves to me yet again that too many men are worthless. (Present company excluded.)

    • wicked

      sigh It just keeps getting worse, doesn’t it?

      So I’ve turned my attention to who the bodies in the above pic actually belong(ed) to. This is tough. Anybody want to take a stab at these guys?

      Sammy Davis, Jr., on the left. Not sure about the next one. Could it be Frank Sinatra? Dean Martin after that one. Tony Bennett last? I don’t think that’s right. It’s been a long time since seeing them, but I know those poses are typical of whoever-the-heck they are. LOL They must’ve been standing on boxes, because Sammy wasn’t that tall. πŸ˜‰

      • I’ll take a stab at it. L-R: Sammy Davis, Jr; Francis Albert Sinatra; Dean Martin; and Joey Bishop, the group known as the “Rat Pack”.

      • wicked

        I think you’re right. I was thinking “lounge singers,” not rat pack. But the ‘heads’ are even more ratty.

        Geez, I’m old. Which reminds me, now that I was distracted…

  5. wicked

    Happy Birthday, Will! Between you, me and Freebird, were the Gemini triplets. πŸ˜‰

    Freebird, do we share the same date? (I’m trying to ignore it this year.)

    • wicked

      Time to buy a new keyboard… Or have my fingers fixed.

    • Yes! You and Freebird share the same special day!

      • wicked

        I think with age comes loss of memory, because I’m sure I knew that. I’m not much of an aunt, thanks to being an only and divorced, but I’d make a great comic Auntie character. These days I’m dingy to the max. That always makes me think of bats in the belfry, which is also probably true.

        Freebird, me, and the flag share the day. πŸ˜‰

        I’m off to find more super deals for my Kindle…as if I actually have time to read.

    • I plan to celebrate hardier and make a bigger deal of birthdays going forward! I think I have fewer in front of me than behind. πŸ˜‰

    • Freebird1971

      We sure do. Spending Sunday with my mom, my kids,the grandkids and my fiancee for an early celebration

    • Freebird1971

      Some might say the 3 Stooges

    • Freebird1971

      I was going to try to ignore mine but my fiancee and kids would hear none of it. Oh well,it’s nice to have people around you that love you and want to make the day special so I’ll just sit back and enjoy it.

  6. WSClark

    Thank you all for the kind Birthday remarks.

    Yes, I am at one of those ‘nine’ birthdays. You know, twenty-nine, forty-nine, etc. When you have a ‘nine’ birthday, you are obliged to spend the next year doing those things that you supposedly can’t do when you hit the ‘oh!’ birthday which follows.

    So, I might need a little help from my friends in determining everything that should be on my ‘Oh! list.’

    I’ll probably start today by doin’ some grillin’ and eatin’ some red meat that I am not supposed to have when I am SIXTY. After that, I am planning a short road trip late next week, to Council Grove, just me and thirty pounds of photographic gear. (Oh, and my car!) Since I don’t drink, I plan to hit the ice cream hard for the next 366 days and I have graduated from Diet Pepsi to Diet Pepsi Max. (Who knew that DP was a gateway drug?)

    I hear tell that Sixty-Folk eat dinner at 4:30 in the afternoon. For me, that comes about lunchtime, since I am a late to bed, late to rise kinda guy. Franklin was way wrong.

    Anyway, I have already started with the “I’m old!” excuses, just in the interest of “practice makes perfect.” (Mow the law, Dylan, I can’t – I’m old.) My favorite is “I don’t know where my damned glasses are! I’m old – I can’t remember!) I have been practicing that one for about twenty years now – I should be ready come next June.

    Anyway, any of your suggestions will be appreciated and thanks again for the kind wishes!

    • I really love the way you hang words together! There is life after sixty. I can’t remember any suggestions at the moment… I’m sure it will come to me. What’s the topic we’re making suggestions on?

    • indypendent

      Happy Birthday Will…..

    • wicked

      We’re both at the 9 age, at least until Tuesday when I’ll hit the “OH” you have your eye on for next year.

      DIET and MAX Pepsi? Really? I tried Max and discovered it contains aspartame. Bad stuff, that aspartame. You need to screw the calories and go straight to the real stuff. As if you need to worry about calories. Seriously, I wouldn’t give that stuff to a lab rat. The FDA doesn’t give a lab rat’s patootie what’s in stuff they approve. Aspartame gives me a headache, even in fairly small doses. My #2 daughter had an on-going headache for a couple of years. She saw the doctor and the eye doctor, and they found nothing wrong. I put my foot down and told her to get off the Diet Dr. Pepper. It took a couple of months, but her headache vanished.

      You asked for advice, I gave it. Ha! Never ask what you don’t want to hear. Other than the above, ENJOY everything you possibly can!!!

  7. indypendent

    When discussing Weiner and his sexting, one factor that I think is missing is that people who engage in this type of behavior do so because they feel they are anonymous (even though they are identified when sending pictures) and they feel they can say anything and get away with it.

    I think it is that feeling of excitement these people get ,in some perverse way, that drives them to keep on sexting.

    And I also think more men do sexting than women just because they can – especially powerful and rich men. For some reason, in our society we have allowed this thinking to become prevalent.

    Men are basically about feelings at the moment and women are more into building relationships – maybe that is why sexting appeals more to men – it is instant gratfication on some level and they forget it about the minute the phone goes off. Women are not built that same way.

    I don’t know if any of this makes any sense – but I’ve known a few friends that engaged in sexting and for the most part, it was the men that enjoyed and engaged in it to the point of obsession.

    One male friend told me that he felt like he was being that bad boy that he always wanted to be but couldn’t because his mother would kill him. Now that would take a few months of therapy to figure out – I would think???

    • WSClark

      I may have mentioned this before, but I just don’t get how sending pix of my crotch could be considered anything other than just flat out creepy.

      Maybe I am a prude, too, but I just don’t get it. How does that work?

      “Hey, babe, wouldja like to see a picture of my ****?”


      What ever happened to “wouldja like to have dinner and see a movie?”

      • indypendent

        Dinner and a movie went out of style when Fred traded their Brontosaurus 4-door for that sporty little SexySabertooth Corvette during his mid-life crisis.

        speaking of the Flintstones – Wasn’t your heart’s desire in that movie? One Ms Halle Berry???

    • wicked

      NO, no, Weiner wasn’t showing his pictures anonymously. The receiver knew who he was. There’s power in being “somebody,” and Tony took advantage of it. Luckily he stayed clear of anyone underage…or at least it appears he did.

      • indypendent

        I did see where Weiner also sent a picture of himself with a sign pointing to him and saying ‘it’s me’ – so I agree that Weiner absolutely wanted the woman to know who he was.

        But what I meant by saying they feel they are anonymous – is the fact that since they are not face to face with the person or even physically talking to someone – so these people have a false sense of anonymity (sp?).

        I should have clarified what I meant better in my first comment. Sometimes my brain thinks one thought but it is paraphrased by my typing fingers. LOL

    • wicked

      Get it watched before it disappears. HBO can be very stingy.

    • I believe there’s more people that engage in this and similar types of activity than people realize. I think there IS a “bad boy/girl” aspect of it that is involved. Online or texting/sexting is a way to act out these behaviors without actual physical participation. In this they don’t feel that they are really doing anything wrong. I can’t tell you how many people I know of that have virtual sex lives in Second Life. Some are married, both male and female, in real life with families and online they have virtual marriages to someone else that they’ve never really met. Creepy? Maybe. Not my cup of tea. Are they committing adultery? Bigamy? It’s not real. I think Weiner’s sexting has been blown out of proportion though and is diversionary to other more important topics. It bothers me more how he reacted to be caught than what he was caught at. A real disappointment, I really like the way he stood up to the GOP and Faux News.

      • indypendent

        Unfortunately, I think you’re right about there are more people engaging in this sexting, cybersex or whatever they call it.

        It is almost like an obsession with some people that I know – it’s really scary. And it’s also sad to think these people have families that they should be spending time with but they’re too wrapped up in some useless virtual world.

  8. I’d like to meet the man who invented sex and see what he’s working on now. ~Author Unknown