Friday, 5/20/11, Public Square


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35 responses to “Friday, 5/20/11, Public Square

  1. Freebird1971

    Anyone get a White Castle yesterday? My fiancee’s daughter stood in line for about 2/12 hours and brought some home to us. They were as good as I remember them

  2. Does anyone know when White Castle left Wichita? I don’t ever remember them being here, but then as a child my family didn’t ‘eat out,’ because we couldn’t afford it. I lived in St. Louis for a brief time as a young adult and did try them there.

  3. prairie pond

    Fnord, I think I read yesterday that White Castle left Wichita in the 1930’s. But I swear, in a drunken St. Patrick’s day haze circa 1985, after we left the bars, we picked up White Castle burgers and went home to eat them.

    Perhaps someone else was selling them, or imitations thereof?

    Woof. That weekend was my introduction to Wichita. Perhaps a reason I hold fond memories? Heheheh!

    • wicked

      They opened in 1921 and (according to MSNBC) left in the late 1930s. I doubt any of us here remember them. Our parents may have enjoyed the real thing. Maybe we remember hearing stories about them.

      • indypendent

        I remember White Castle from St. Louis as we drove through to get to Illinois.

        When we lived in Tennessee, there was another hamburger chain alot like White Castle – they were called ‘Krystal Burgers’. The food was good; but by no stretch of the imagination was it a meal.

        My kids loved the mini-hot dogs. They were cute with their little buns. My son used to get his with chili on top.

        The last time I went through St. Louis, we got some White Castle burgers. I thought there was a White Castle in Kansas City, Kansas – but it is no longer there.

  4. Do those annoying people all around the world leave simultaneously or is this time zone dependent? When we wake up Saturday morning will there already be news reports of people gone missing in Australia?

    • wicked

      I just have this feeling that when the Rapture comes, there’s going to be an awful lot of disappointed people going, “What the hell?”

      I’d like to ask this “Rev.” exactly where in the Bible the Rapture is mentioned.

  5. POSTED: May 18, 11:16 AM ET | By Matt Taibbi
    A New Wall Street Investigation: Is the Hammer Finally Coming Down?

    “…We were brought in to talk about the new investigation of the banks that apparently is being launched by New York State Attorney General Eric Schneiderman, which looks like it might be the first for-real attempt at a prosecution of the systemic corruption that led to the financial crisis.

    Schneiderman’s probe, news of which came out yesterday in this piece by Morgenson, reportedly targets the banks’ mortgage securitization process during the bubble years. Morgenson reported that Schneiderman is focused on at least three companies: Morgan Stanley, Bank of America, and old friend Goldman, Sachs.

    This investigation has the potential to be a Mother of All Nightmares situation for the banks for a couple of reasons. For one thing, the decision to go after the securitization process is a total prosecutorial bullseye. This is the ugly heart of the wide-scale fraud scheme of the bubble era. Again, the business model during this time was a giant bait-and-switch scam. Sleazy lenders like Countrywide and New Century first created huge masses of bad loans, committing every conceivable kind of fraud to get people into loans (from doctoring income statements with white-out to phonying FICO scores to engineering fake appraisals). They then moved the bad loans quickly to the big banks, which pooled them and chopped them up (this is the “securitization” process), sprinkled hocus-pocus math on them, and them sold them to suckers around the world as AAA-rated securities.”

    • The “securitization” process is indeed where it’s at. Countrywide was a major offender in the bad loan initiation process, and the questions raised in the linked piece certainly need answered.

      I’ll be rooting for the NY AG, all the while mindful of the gigantic resources the banks are able to apply in an attempt to “just make this all go away”. The feds may try to derail, but (without looking, just applying a bit of thought) the State of New York certainly seems to have independent jurisdiction in this matter.

      • indypendent

        I predict an agreement to a settlement – fines will be paid – but no one will see the inside of a jail/prison cell. and God forbid if anyone were to actually lose their job.

    • wicked

      Ha! I see Matt’s at it again. Or still. 🙂 At least I can understand what he says/writes.

  6. Hi Prairie P&Ps, it’s just ticked over to the 21st down under and so far nothing!!!! Not even a little rumble. I’ll let you know if I hear or see something suspicious. If you don’t hear back from me, you are on your own…good luck 🙂

    • indypendent

      Thanks for the heads up….I was kinda looking forward to some peace and quiet with all these Religious folks Rapture bound…..then, and only then, will the rest of us get some actual progress made in this old world.

  7. How to prepare for The Rapture

    “In my opinion, Christ-like christians should not be allowed to do anything tomorrow that might jeopardise the rest of us. If these christians are suddenly Raptured, the rest of us could be permanently maimed or we might die horrible, fiery deaths as unattended stoves send flames shooting through restaurants (the rapture is conveniently scheduled for the dinner hour, after all), as cars crash onto crowded sidewalks, as passenger-filled aeroplanes plunge into neighborhoods.

    Why make things worse for us heathens? We’ve already got The Tribulation ™ to look forward to.

    What are you planning to do for The Rapture? Are you one of the lucky ones who will be Raptured? Or are you a heathen, like me, who will be left behind on earth after The Rapture to clean up the mess?”

  8. According to the Christian Science Monitor in 2004 George H. W. Bush more or less said the same thing that Obama said yesterday about the Israel borders that prevailed before the Six-Day war that began June 5, 1967.

    You think Romney and Huckabee who are spouting off remember this? Nah! Even if they do their goal in life is to oppose President Obama so it’s par for the course that they are complaining and exaggerating.

    What’s so ‘shocking’ about Obama mentioning 1967 borders?

    Not much. A fact check on Huckabee and Romney’s outrage, and Netanyahu’s mention of a 2004 US ‘commitment.’

  9. indypendent

    Romeny is so busy kissing Religioius Right butt right now he does not dare speak the truth.

    Huckabee is a Baptist preacher……enough said.

    When it comes right down to it – Republicans do not want Obama to have any success at anything he does.

    Obama was the one that got Bin laden on his watch. And I am not saying that Obama deserves all the credit but I’ve never heard Obama try to claim all the credit either (as some Repubs have said).

    Obama helped steer the country out of the 2008 economy crash – and I shudder to think what would have happened if President McCain and his sidekick SP would have been in the White House at that time.

    I was just thinking the other day – Republicans ran in 2012 on their promise of job creation through tax cuts – remember? Why would Republicans even want to create any jobs because they would not want Obama to get the credit for anything and Obama is in the White House.

    So, let’s not expect the Republicans to ever do anything that might actually help our country. Their first loyalty is to their Party and through their party, their pockets get filled with alot of money.

  10. indypendent

    GWB has been a busy little boy since leaving office. Wow – alot of money from speeches. I wonder why he does not venture outside of the US? (Well, there was that one speech in Canada – wasn’t there?)

    I still think GWB should have showed up at the Ground Zero ceremony after Bin Laden was killed.

    If GWB would have put his big boy pants on and acted like an adult, alot of the Fox News/talk radio nonsense of Obama hogging all the credit would have never had to be aired…….if GWB would have just found those big boy pants…

  11. indypendent

    I’m glad to know there are some things that are universal. Seems the people in Rome are having a debate on their statue as the people in Wichita are having about the new art work sculpture.

    At least our artwork sculpture was not supposed to be a real person – but what gets me is the fact that the allegedly approved it.

  12. indypendent

    Does Sarah Palin saying she has ‘the fire in the belly’ mean she will run for president in 2012?

    Or is his just more of the teasing act she likes to throw out in order to keep her name front and center? Of course, it is like one analyst said this past week – the minute Palin announces she is not running for president in 2012 – the focus spotlight goes off her and so the money cash cow will follow the spotlight to the next candidate.

    • indypendent

      As for me, I would love to see Sarah Palin throw her hat into the ring. Only when she gets beat either by her own party during the primaries or by Obama in Nov 2012 will this woman get out of the spotlight.

      Personally, I think SP likes to be that person that everybody runs to and begs them to do something but they would rather sit on the sidelines and throw bombs at the other guys.

      Of course, there will be pageant walking, hand waving and Bible thumping along with those bombs being thrown.

      • wicked

        I’m not sure it would be a good idea for Sarah to run for president…or any other office. If she lost, she’d be a has-been. Not that she isn’t already in most folks mind. If she won, she’d never survive. Why? She doesn’t know how to keep her mouth shut. Besides, like the others who have led their fans on a merry chase and then decided not to run, keeping people guessing works much better than actually having to do the deed.

    • wicked

      That fire in the belly is caused by too many tamales. Being from Alaska, she isn’t used to them.

  13. wicked

    Did anyone go to the Tim McGraw concert last night? My son-in-law met him and found him to be friendly and talkative. Before anyone asks if this took place at the concert, it didn’t. My s-i-l works for a company that taxis and fuels incoming non-commercial (private) planes. Not long ago he met Goldie Hawn.

    Yes, I’m jealous.

    • indypendent

      I did not go to the concert last night. The last concert I saw Tim McGraw was about 15 years ago.

      I always liked Goldie Hawn – but never had the chance to even see her in person. There was some network we get on Direct TV that was having a Laugh In marathon. I remember when that show first aired and the ruckus it stirrred.

      I also remember the first All in the Family show – that really stirred up a ruckus.

      • indypendent

        But the show that really stirred up things was the Smothers Brothers. I remember watching that show but I do not remember many details. I always liked their little skits and then when they would sing at the end of the show.

        Little did I know that alot of their comedy was political. Were the Smothers Brothers involved with the Laugh In show?

  14. indypendent

    I watched President Obama’s speech to the CIA this afternoon. He was very well received and I thought he did an excellent job in giving credit to each and every department and person in the killing of Bin Laden.

    But, of course, Obama did say one thing that will rile up the Republicans – Obama did say that he informed Leon Panetta to make Bin Laden Job No. 1 two years ago when he first got into office.

    And then he had the audacity to say – that the CIA doubled down and thanks to alot of people, the mission to get Bin Laden was accomplished.

    So, just expect the Repubs to go ballistic one more time… dare Obama imply that getting Bin laden was not Job No. 1 on the Republicans’ watch. or maybe Obama just took GWB at his word when GWB stated that he did not even think about Bin laden anymore???

  15. indypendent

    Rick Perry is the New Flavor of the Month for the GOP 2012 presidential hopefuls?

    All I can say is – if Perry wins, the stock in hair spray is going to sky rocket!

    • wicked

      I’m not sure whether to laugh or cry. I’ve alerted my Texas friend about Gov. Hair’s possibilities. Can’t wait to hear what she has to say. Bet I’ll be able to hear her all the way from Texas. LOL

  16. Freedomwriter

    It may be a little too radical for some of you, but there is a gathering of secularists gathering at WSU CAC theater tomorrow to listen to speakers on how fatalistic religious views are bad for society. You can find out more info at

  17. Zippy

    Well, I gotta say the end of the world wasn’t what I expected. While you all were sleeping, I saw the Vogon destructor fleet cruise into orbit.

    I just hope there will be no poetry reading. The horror!!