Sunday, 3/27/11, Public Square

Of course their 11th commandment is cut taxes,

giving the biggest cuts to those of the greatest wealth.


If President Obama came out in favor of oxygen,

Republicans would suffocate themselves.

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14 responses to “Sunday, 3/27/11, Public Square

    • Zippy

      Thanks, Fnord. I have respected Juan Cole’s observations for a long time.

      I’ve always tried to make my politics about reality, and Cole is talking about reality. He could , of course, be wrong, but that’s the funny thing about reality.

      It isn’t based on slogans. Cole methodically destroying some of the weaker non-intervenionist arguments we’ve heard.

      However, seeing military force as the messy instrument it is, I remain, well, let’s put it this way: I’m watching.

      And ignoring the pundits, as usual.

  1. Read the comments too.

    House Republicans’ Next Target: The Old Peoples’ Lobby

    http://gawker.com/#!5785848/house-republicans-next-target-the-old-peoples-lobby

  2. The video is almost 8 minutes long, but worth watching.

    Maher: GOP birthers think Obama’s race is “un-American”

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/bill-maher-obama-republicans-birthers-race/

    Bill Maher, upon learning that 51 percent of Republican voters now believe that President Barack Obama was not born in the United States, thus making the GOP majority birthers, he asked his conservative panel, “At what point do you say, I can’t be a Republican anymore?”

    • Freedomwriter

      I enjoyed watching the video clip and listening to the discussion. All the innuendo, negative labeling, and misinformation coming from the conservative side irks me. I know both conservatives and liberals make mistakes with language and labels when they get excited about their cause, but I think we have a responsibility to be alert to these and correct them. Bill Maher talked about his pledge to continue calling Tea Partiers , Tea-baggers, until they stop calling Health Care Reform, Obamacare. We too need to watch our use of such terms, as it just popularizes it.

      It has been these soundbites that have influenced the Right to spread their misinformation like wildfire. I want to invite you all to a grassroots effort to look at this issue. On April 8, 2011 I am helping sponsor an event to be held at the Sedgwick County Extension building at 7001 W. 21st, in Wichita, KS. It will be held in the Meadowlark Room from 7-9 p.m. Anyone interested in joining us to take a look at how we can start creating our own positive approaches to dealing with these issues is invited to come. Coffee and tea will be provided, but if you’d like to bring a healthy snack to share, that would be appreciated, but is not required.
      If you think you might come, drop us a line at grassroots.RSVP@gmail.com That way we will have an idea about how many may be showing up. Any questions you have about the event, can be emailed there also.

      The next major election is coming upon us quickly. Now is the time to strengthen our stance and become more visible in our communities. Sitting on the sidelines just gets viewed as cheering on the opposition. As long as we stay invisible it just strengthens the conservatives opinion that we don’t count.

      • I would be very interested in hearing about how we may progress in a positive manner. My life is somewhat unpredictable right now, with family showing up at unexpected times, but I’ve written it down on the calendar along with the email addy for the rsvp. I hope to have a better idea of what plans I can make in about a week. Is that too late?

      • I’m certainly interested. Will have to see what we’ve got going on.

  3. Freedomwriter

    No, it won’t be too late Fnord. RSVP’s are encouraged, but we welcome anyone who is interested in creating a more positive approach, whether they RSVP or not. PPP’ers please feel free to extend this invite to anyone you know who might be interested in this event. We want people to leave their anger at the door and come with positive intentions to help each other articulate our political ideas factually, clearly, concisely, and sanely!

    The RSVP’s are just to help us gauge how many chairs to set up and coffee cups to bring! This is truly a grassroots effort to be a part of the solution in small but very significant ways.

  4. Robert

    fnord, Thanks for the welcome. I don’t get on the computer much, but this is a site I’m begining to like. It’s nice not having to listen to the koch grassroots teaparty or as Bill Maher says-teabagger bull. I just wanted to say if you like Bill Maher go to the Free Speech Channel. (channel 348 direct tv)I think you will find it quite informative; better than the networks for news.
    Take Care!

    • WOW!

      Some of those are extremely powerful.

      The one where the women are picking up the rice; the farmer petting the domesticated animal that isn’t being raised to kill and eat; the addict (actually there are two — both strong to the point of being disturbing like the disease); the clock digging the grave.

      I’m out of words…

  5. indypendent

    The main reason these birthers have kept this lie going is because this is the surest way to make Obama an illegitimate president.

    In their logic – how on earth did God ever allow a young black man to beat them at their own game – unless Obama is just the benefactor of some huge hoax? –

    And this is why these birthers HAVE to believe this lie.

    If they acknowledge the truth that Obama was born in Hawaii, then they also have to acknowledge the fact they they lost to a Democrat – and worse than that – a black man.

    I know, I know the majority of Republicans will jump up and down and loudly proclaim they are not racist – but actions speak louder than words.

    Just listen to any of the Pied Pipers of the Social Conservative Republicans and the issue of race is always just below the surface.

    Kinda like what that Republican Kansas Congressman comparing the shooting of feral pigs to shooting illegals as a way to fix our immigration problem

    On some level – don’t you think there is a tinge of racism – and what’s worse, alot of those folks on the ‘right’ defending this guy are saying he misspoke. WTF

    I wonder if these good folks would be wanting to give the same free pass to Obama if he had said shooting feral pigs is like shooting white evangelical christians?

    I suspect the second Civil War would break out if Obama was stupid enough to say something like that.

    But deep down – I suspect these good ‘right’ folks feel the same way Peck does but they just don’t say it out loud.

    • WSClark

      House hunting sucks, even when a lot of the work is done on the Internet.

      Anyway, just commenting on the ‘birther’ issue – I have no doubt that there is legitimate disagreements from the Right with Obama, but there is also no doubt that some of the issue is race. Duh Cons disguise their racist with code words, but it just boils down to disdain for a black man.

      Two years ago, I wrote on this blog that the election of Barack Obama may have actually made race relationships in America worse because it brought out a lot of the latent and hidden racism of many of our citizens. Now, they can say vile things about the President and claim that their opposition is just political.

      Today, I realize that I was much more accurate in my assessment than I originally thought. Racism is more than alive and well in America.