Friday, 3/25/11, Public Square


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38 responses to “Friday, 3/25/11, Public Square

  1. indypendent

    Speaking of living in fear – I posted a website late yesterday about the infamous Kochs.

    I post – you decide…. (to paraphrase – LOL)

  2. indypendent

    Have you noticed how hard the Republicans are trying to paint Obama as just like their little cowboy president George?

    They are really trying to spin this Libya into a full scale war. Maybe that is secretly what these folks want? Just imagine all those profits from another round of no-bid contracts….

    And then we’ve got Sarah Palin over in Israel accusing Obama of interferring in nothing more than a ‘zoning issue’………


    • wicked

      It doesn’t matter what Obama says or does, the Republicans will be against it, en masse. Even if they have to flip flop from one day to the next. The Libya thing is the perfect example.

      They complained because he moved too slowly.
      Once our planes were there, protecting the no-fly zone and doing what the Repubs wanted done more quickly originally, they dissed him for the U.S. being involved at all.

      Our President needs to be the President and do what’s right for the country, instead of trying to make Republicans happy. It’s an impossible task, and he’s wasting precious time. In other words, he and the rest of “the Democrats need to stop being wusses.” (So said former PA governor and Dem Nat’l Committee Chairman. I agree!)

  3. indypendent

    Wow – Another GOP flavor-of-the-month is contemplating throwing his hat into the 2012 presidential ring.

    Speaking of the 2012 presidential contenders – When I heard that Donald Trump wants to see Obama’s birth certificate – my first thought was – I want to see the birth certificate for that critter that is living on Trump’s head.

    What did I say just a few days ago about there not being any shame anymore in our society. Can I add embarrassment to that list? Seriously, anyone with that much money wants to look like that?

  4. For a change of pace:

    The Atlantic bringing some smack on men’s basketball:

    Not the usual sports magazine, but The Atlantic. Who’d have thought? πŸ™‚

    • Nonsensical.

      “If you root against KU basketball, then, you are actually rooting for slavery.”

      Sense cannot be found in nonsense.

    • wicked

      Okay, what if I don’t root against KU, but I don’t root for them, either. What does that make me?

      • a non rooter?

        My granddaughter who is now 15 learned the song ‘Take Me Out To The Ballgame’ when she was very young, but she sang it “roop, roop for the home team.” I questioned the word and she told me, “Gramda! roop, like roop beer!”

  5. I posted this late last night so I thought I’d post it again here (and see if I could get it to actually post the video)…

    Why does this not surprise me…
    Fox Lies, You Decide : What Weiner Really Said

    • Why am I not able to get the video to come up? What code should I be using? I used the default ’embed’ could yesterday and chose the ‘html’ code today.

    • That is really weird! I posted the link that was in my browser bar, not the inbedded code. And, I have no clue why it shows for me and not for you.

      • wicked

        I’ve noticed that for some odd reason the words [youtube show up before the html, which is how a link begins, showing that it’s a link, not something else. If you delete that [youtube part, it should show up correctly.
        Your Friendly Webwitch πŸ™‚

  6. Did everyone see this in today’s Eagle…

    Unrelated add-ons threaten long-term budget
    Isn’t this part of what the tea-baggers where complaining about? Why are we not hearing any protests from them? Is it because the add-ons are things THEY want? And now that makes it OK?

    • I can only state my own opinion which is the tea baggers only wanted to elect Republicans, they may have said they had (or have) other agendas but I never believed it for a second.

      • indypendent

        Me thinks you’re correct in your assessment.

        If they really believe in what they profess they believe in – then they would do some research on where all that corporate money that is bankrolling them came from.

  7. 6176 —

    Here’s the link on ‘black humor.’ I found it great!

  8. indypendent

    GE paid zero in taxes for 2010 – but I thought the mantra of Republicans was that Obama taxing all corporations out of existence?

    BTW – What is the irony of Obama naming the GE guy to the job of supposedly helping America find jobs and tax issues???

  9. indypendent

    In light of our discussion yesterday about religion – this news makes my heart
    sink and my anger to boil over – again.

    Perhaps this religion needs to continue to clean up their backyards before they start dabbling in politics.

    • WOW!

      I think dividing $166.1 million by 450 will still give each victim a sizable amount. I also think money can’t undo the harm that’s been done.

      • indypendent

        I did notice the abusers were also ordered to write a letter of apology – that is at least more than some of the others have had to do.

        I guess I just don’t understand how anyone who professes to be so godly and is representing the church can even behave in such a way and NOT feel so guilty. And then their leaders in power that obviously looked away and covered it up.

        I have some Catholic friends and coworkers and they all still support the church. When I asked them how they could do that – they respond – well the church did not do it – those priests did.

        But these lawsuits are being brought and won against the church because the church covered it up – not because they had priests molesting kids. The church knew it was happening and looked the other way.

        But this has gone on for how many years? And it was not just in this the USA – it has been around the world.

        I think I would like to amend my stance from yesterday – how can a serial child molester and those in power who cover it up be able to go to Heaven because they are so-called ‘saved’ and someone who never had the chance to hear the message of salvation be doomed just because they did not accept Jesus in their heart as their Savior.

        That just will never make any sense to me.

      • indypendent

        Please forgive me – I get very passionate when I hear of these child molestation cases. I just want to scream because I am so tired of all the hypocrisy.

        Did you hear about what Elizabeth Taylor’s secret was about James Dean? According to the interviewer, she told the story that James Dean was molested by his minister when he was a kid. Taylor said that she and Dean would sit up at nights and talk when they were filming ‘Giant’.

        I remember that movie – Rock Hudson was in it also. I remember the scene where Rock and Elizabeth’s characters grandchild and daugher-in-law were with them in some restaurant. The daughter-in-law was Indian and the owner of the restaurant told Rock to get them out of there.

        Of course, if you know this movie, you know what happened next.

        I remember the scene after that restaurant fight though – Rock and Elizabeth’s characters were sitting there and looking at both their grandbabies – one was white and the other one was half-white and half-Indian and then they asked the question if there would ever come a day when both their grandbabies could be viewed the same (I am really paraphrasing this).

        I guess we are STILL not to that day yet – are we? Not only are we kept being divided into ethnic groups – now we are being divided into women and men – voters and illegal voters – pro-choice and pro-life – Christian or heathen….

        God, will we ever learn the simple fact that we are all in this boat together? We are all living on this one planet and if you blow up one group – the group doing the blowing up will also suffer the consequences.

        Oh BTW – we all do remember Rock Hudson was homosexual. Yet another group that some others want to divide from the rest of the population.

        And yet the Bible states that we are all God’s children……

        Hmmmm……….makes one wonder, doesn’t it?

  10. The Vermont House Passes Bill Calling For A Single Payer Health Care System In The State

    As we previously reported, the Vermont legislature, led by Gov. Peter Shumlin (D), has been considering a proposal to establish some sort of single payer health care system, where a single public insurer provides health insurance to all state residents, similar to the Medicare system for American seniors.

    Last night, the Vermont House of Representatives debated and approved by a 92-49 a bill that would create a single payer system in the state.

    more —

  11. DavidB

    Did you all see the amazing news that Vermont is setting up a voluntary, state operated single payer health care system.?

    This was promoted by the Governor and seems to be the real deal.

    • I might consider moving too, just like the 200 doctors willing to move their practice to Vermont! Hooray for the people of Vermont!

      • 6176746f6c6c65

        Yeah, that’s what you say now, but think about snow in April. πŸ™‚

        Seriously, Vermont is a great place (to visit, at least), much natural beauty. The leaves in the fall are dramatic, and if one likes to snow ski, there are several resorts. Favorite town name: White River Junction (once one goes there, one doesn’t wonder the source of the name).

        The politics seem a bit more my style, too.

      • HGTV gave my house in Stowe, Vermont to someone else! I was so sure it was going to be mine. πŸ˜‰

      • indypendent

        fnord – My husband was sure that house in Stowe was going to be his….

        I told him that I would gladly move there if he did win that beautiful house.

        I guess the Luck God knew how much I hate snow and allowed my husband to pay the price of losing that dream house. At least that is what I tried to tell him – but he only smiled and said – so what. There’s always the next drawing…

    • indypendent

      Good for them!!

      I wonder how Fox News will be handling the reporting of this? I’m sure gloom and doom will be the order of the day.

      And fear – never forget the fear – that is what drives their targeted audience.

  12. How the Stimulus Is Changing America

    The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 β€” President Obama’s $787 billion stimulus β€” has been marketed as a jobs bill, and that’s how it’s been judged. The White House says it has saved or created about 3 million jobs, helping avoid a depression and end a recession. Republicans mock it as a Big Government boondoggle that has failed to prevent rampant unemployment despite a massive expansion of the deficit. Liberals complain that it wasn’t massive enough.

    It’s an interesting debate. Politically, it’s awkward to argue that things would have been even worse without the stimulus, even though that’s what most nonpartisan economists believe. But the battle over the Recovery Act’s short-term rescue has obscured its more enduring mission: a long-term push to change the country. It was about jobs, sure, but also about fighting oil addiction and global warming, transforming health care and education, and building a competitive 21st century economy. Some Republicans have called it an under-the-radar scramble to advance Obama’s agenda β€” and they’ve got a point.

    Yes, the stimulus has cut taxes for 95% of working Americans, bailed out every state, hustled record amounts of unemployment benefits and other aid to struggling families and funded more than 100,000 projects to upgrade roads, subways, schools, airports, military bases and much more.

    Read more:,8599,2013683,00.html#ixzz1He7oXxHz

    • indypendent

      Alot of that stimulus money went for things that Obama and Democrats cannot actually point to and say ‘this is what your money bought’…

      instead, it kept the country from falling into a deeper recession than if nothing had been done .

      But you know, Republicans will put their particular spin on anything and still try to come out looking like the winner – and their targeted audience will eat it up like cotton candy.

      But that all important group – the independents – are not falling for the old tricks anymore. And with the current path of GOP demonization of teachers, public service workers and all women – that GOP big tent is shrinking smaller with each passing day.

      Pretty soon the only people in the GOP big tent will be that small car with all the Krazee Kissin Kousin Klowns – and they all seem to be running for president come 2012.

  13. Guess what?

    If those idiot Republicans actually accomplish their goal of repealing The Affordable Care and Patient Protection Act they’ll make Palin’s death panel rumors the truth — and they will be those death panels.

    OK, Let’s Talk About Death Panels

    Critics of the Affordable Care Act keep saying health care reform will kill people. Repealing the Affordable Care Act, as the law’s critics advocate, would likely mean more people die.

  14. I found this article (, and given the current budgetary constraints faced by school districts, passed it along. Wonder if this might be of interest to the deficit hawks? Probably depends upon whether Microsoft makes campaign contributions to the correct folks.

    • wicked

      Didn’t you see where Bill Gates was not among the top billionaires anymore? He gave away a large portion of his pile of money to charities.

      I understand the animosity some have toward Microsoft, but it’s hard to diss Bill and Melinda. They do a lot of good in the world.

      • 6176746f6c6c65

        My issue with Microsoft has to do with its monopolistic market position and acting like it knows it (licensing practices, costs, policies, etc.), and doesn’t care.

        The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation (to which Warren Buffet gave a chunk, too, creating a problem for the foundation to give it away to qualified charities fast enough to avoid tax problems) has done a lot of good with the Gates’ money. Some of the things being done are simple and relatively “cheap” (mosquito nets to reduce malaria as one example); the Gates Scholar program is another. Not a hater of Bill, just disgruntled over what the company he co-founded has become.