Monday, 1/3/11, Public Square


What will happen this year?

Anyone willing to wager a guess?

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25 responses to “Monday, 1/3/11, Public Square

  1. Here’s the link to the image in the thread header since it’s fuzzy and unclear…

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40878159/ns/business-stocks_and_economy/

    • I posted a link last week to the Iraqi Constitution — written by bushco — which includes single-payer health care for every Iraqi citizen! Yep, the Iraqis were given, BY BUSHCO and paid for by Americans, exactly what the Republicans don’t want Americans to have. They just want us to pay for health care for citizens of Iraq!

  2. indypendent

    Bush spent how many billions in Iraq and this is all we got for it? The same question goes for Afghanistan. Exactly where is all our taxpayer money going and what is being accomplished?

    For all their ranting and screaming about the massive and wasteful federal spending, why don’t the Tea Party Republicans rant and scream about the real story of where alot of those billions for war really goes?

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/02/AR2011010202491.html?hpid=topnews&sid=ST2011010300195

    • indypendent

      I must add something – Obama is also spending billions in Afghanistan – so he is at fault also to let this continue.

      Although, I do have to give Obama credit in at least getting most of our troops out of Iraq. That’s more than Bush and Republicans wanted to do.

  3. indypendent

    This is something that will come back to bite us in the new year.

    Those extended Bush tax cuts to the wealthiest 2% had better be creating those promised jobs or I suspect the next tea party revolution will not be about some stale tea but rather some hard cold ice water thrown in the faces of the arrogant and ignorant.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/03/unemployment-2011_n_803473.html

    • I disagree. I don’t think the Republicans / Tea Partiers will notice if Republicans don’t deliver. They don’t expect anything from Republicans beyond getting elected.

    • I don’t expect to hear much from the Tea Party until 2012 elections, and then only the same crap we heard leading up to the 2010 elections — all exaggerated, some totally made up and all favoring the GOP. If the GOP attempts to repeal health care, even with full knowledge it’s a waste of time and money, that’ll be enough. They’ll all fall in line and brag about how their guys did what they said they’d do. Never mind they said they would repeal the Affordable Care Act, not just try. All credit will go to the GOP and all blame to the Democratic Party — it’s all they know how to do!

  4. indypendent

    As a cancer survivor, I am excited to read this news. One one hand we have the possibility of a new diagnostic tool to use to help people but on the other hand I am wondering – how much will this blood test cost and what if the health care reform is repealed and we go back to the old health care system of only those with money and/or insurance will be able to get this new diagnostic testing?

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40881967/ns/health-cancer

    • indypendent

      In the article it states that doctors have had to rely on giving drugs and then taking CT scans to see if the tumor shrinks.

      Let me tell you from firsthand experience – I have had multiple CT scans since 2007. These are not cheap tests and they are not pleasant to go through. If this new blood test can prevent this much CT scanning and to cut down on the radiation exposure, then it is a good thing.

      But again, I ask, what about the cost of this new blood test? Will those lucky ones with money and/or insurance be the only ones who can get this testing done?

  5. indypendent

    How sad when people get so caught up in an organized religion that even if the end times are coming, they were too busy to spend their time with their loved ones?

    Is this really what organized religion is good for?

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40885541/ns/us_news-life/?gt1=43001

  6. indypendent

    fnord wrote: I posted a link last week to the Iraqi Constitution — written by bushco — which includes single-payer health care for every Iraqi citizen! Yep, the Iraqis were given, BY BUSHCO and paid for by Americans, exactly what the Republicans don’t want Americans to have. They just want us to pay for health care for citizens of Iraq!

    Of course, GWB also told us that the Iraqi oil would pay for his Iraq War. And Cheney told us that Iraqis would welcome us as liberators.

    But, you’re right, Republicans don’t seem to want all Americans to have health insurance (let alone single payer insurance).

    I wonder if all those private corporations and/or contractors’ obscene profits off the war have anything to do with giving the Iraqis single-payer health care?

    Maybe I am just being too cynical???

    • indypendent

      And let’s not forget all the other stuff our borrowed tax dollars paid for in Iraq. Important stuff such as that water park (as mentioned in my comment posted above).

      Whenever there is government paying for a nation-building exercise, there will be alot of spending the Tea Party Republicans claim to be against. But where, oh where, are their rants and screams?

      They are as quiet as they are when accepting the new Medicare benefits from Obamacare. I wonder if they realize that when the GOPPERS repeal Obamacare, those new Medicare benefits will also go bye-bye?

  7. indypendent

    I expect to hear from the Tea Party during the next two years. But from all the rumblings on the news coverage front, it looks like a fight is brewing between the establishment GOP and the Tea Party.

    But how can the TP people do much to change the GOP when they allowed themselves to be hijacked?

    Plus, the TP leaders seem to be a group of people who like to draw crowds but when it comes to actually governing – they are all talk.

    I am watching the No Labels Movement though. The success of that group largely depends on how the Tea Party and the GOP fight goes and how the Democrats react to both the TP and the GOP.

    But when it come right down to it – it is the unemployment problem and the economy driving the politics at this time – in my opinion.

    Alot can happen in the next two years . Or maybe the end of the world will be May 21, 2011 – as explained in the comment I posted above.

    • indypendent

      I have one question – what about the fathers of these children? What is their role in this house?

      And to make things even more controversial with you – where will these teen moms find a living-wage jobs to support themselves?

      With the current climate of unemployment – with alot of those unemployed being college-educated – what real chances will these teen moms have for success?

      A whole lot more has to happen than some well-intentioned couple wanting to help teen moms.

      While I applaud their efforts, I have to ask – what about all the other facts that go into teen pregnancy – are those being looked at?

    • indypendent

      correction: facts should ‘factors’.

      If you give a man a fish, he eats for a day. If you teach him to catch the fish, he can feed himself. The same goes for teen pregnancy – teach them how to be successful and then provide the tools in our society to stay successful.

  8. indypendent

    I just heard about this today on MSNBC. And can you believe this commander has been promoted?

    Tell me again how the gays are ruining our military? If this is any indication as to how the heterosexuals behave while serving our country, then please bring on the gays that know how to act like civilized human beings.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/01/uss-enterprise-video-scandal_n_803263.html

  9. This comes from a health-care exec who quit his job, grew a conscience and now tells the truth:

    Wendell Potter: The Health Care Spin Continues

    “And if you were persuaded that the health care bill President Barack Obama signed into law in March 2010 was a ‘government takeover of the health care system,’ my former colleagues and I earned every penny of our handsome salaries.”

    http://www.truth-out.org/wendell-potter-the-health-care-spin-continues66501

  10. Remember the uproar over President Obama speaking to school children?

    Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa) said in a recent interview that he often raises “the abortion issue” to school children, “at even the K-through-12 level.”

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/03/steve-king-abortion_n_803694.html

    • WSClark

      It is amazing what some consider appropriate to speak to children about these types of things at a young age, but they do not want comprehensive sex education taught to young adults at a reasonable age.

      Amazing, stupid but still amazing.

  11. tosmarttobegop

    I came here about thirty minutes ago and had nothing to say.
    But a few minutes ago I thought of something to say.

    One of those oddball things in life, a favorite glass or spoon!
    Some time ago while visiting with family in OKLA the topic was brought up about one of great nephew.
    Has a favorite fork, he almost refuses to eat anything with any other fork!

    I had to side with him, since I too have a favorite spoon and tumbler I use for my coffee.
    The spoon has “USN” pressed on the handle and the tumbler is a colored plastic 32 oz.
    I wash it and set it aside away from any of the others.

    Today I washed it and was thinking of making me some coffee when I looked up and there was mom with my tumbler! She was drinking something using my TUMBLER!!!!

    I bit my tongue, I so wanted to make a big deal out her drinking out of my tumbler.
    I actually rush up to see if she used my spoon too!
    I stood for a second then grabbed a different 32 oz plastic tumbler and made my coffee.

    I was just in the kitchen and saw my tumbler setting on the counter and washed it.
    Put my spoon in it and hide the damn thing!
    OK there is my confession for the year….

  12. itolduso

    “I have one question – what about the fathers of these children? What is their role in this house?

    And to make things even more controversial with you – where will these teen moms find a living-wage jobs to support themselves?

    With the current climate of unemployment – with alot of those unemployed being college-educated – what real chances will these teen moms have for success?

    A whole lot more has to happen than some well-intentioned couple wanting to help teen moms.

    While I applaud their efforts, I have to ask – what about all the other facts that go into teen pregnancy – are those being looked at?”

    Do what you will. Your business. I choose to help where I can