Thursday, 10/14/10, Public Square

“Never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity.” —  Unknown


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28 responses to “Thursday, 10/14/10, Public Square

  1. An interesting analysis, and one I think has merit —

    “Blue Dogs Will Need New Leadership

    The House Blue Dog Coalition of conservative Democrats is going to need new leadership in 2011 since its founder, John Tanner (D-TN) is retiring and many of its 54 members are in tough reelection battles. To a large extent, the size and power of the Blue Dogs is a result of Rahm Emanuel’s strategy in 2006 of looking for conservatives who could win in rural, Republican-leaning districts. It worked and many won their races. Now it appears that the Blue Dogs will take the brunt of the 2010 Republican tsunami as their districts return to their normal Republican bent. A much smaller and leaderless Blue Dog Coalition is likely to have far less power in 2011 than it had in 2009. So ironically, although the Democrats are virtually certain to lose many seats in the House, the party’s center of gravity will move to the left as the Blue Dogs are decimated.”

  2. “Polls That Omit Cell Phones May be Biased

    A new study from the Pew Research Center notes that a quarter of U.S. households no longer have landlines–and thus cannot be reached by pollsters who use only landlines. None of the automated pollsters, which includes Rasmussen, SurveyUSA, and PPP, call cell phones and thus have to correct for this effect. If cell-phone-only households voted the same way as landline households, missing them wouldn’t matter, but there is an increasing amount of evidence that cell-only households are more Democratic than landline households. In a recent poll, Pew tried to determine the amount of this effect by interviewing 2816 registered voters of whom 786 were called on their cell phone. Among landline voters the Republicans led by 1%. Among cell-only voters, the Democrats led by 3%. When only likely voters were counted, a similar bias was encountered. Polls in March and June of this year showed this effect as well, but the poll in the middle of the summer did not show it. With a 4-point bias among 25% of the population, the total effect on the poll could be around 1%.”

    • I’m thinking about going cell phone only. We have one of those ‘package’ deals for television, internet, and home phone, so I have to see what effect dropping the home phone would have and maybe I wouldn’t save.

      It’s all so expensive!

      • wicked

        I have Vonage. It includes all the bells and whistles available and probably more. Much better deal than in the bundles.

    • I know a bunch of people who have gone cell phone only, especially those who no longer have children at home. They say the convenience of having their phone in their pocket makes this a better choice. They give the examples of waiting around the house for the doctor’s office or repairman, etc. to call and tell me they feel much less tied to home. I always want to ask why they didn’t give their cell phone number even when they had the home phone and that would have accomplished the same…

    • wicked

      I’m tired of getting poll calls on my cell phone. I have to assume that I stupidly gave out my number, although I’m not sure when. Maybe when I registered to vote? It wasn’t something I did on purpose. It was the only phone I had at the time.

      I already know who I’ll vote for. I don’t need some perky “I did this!”, even from politicians I support, to help me make up my mind this late in the game.

      And I wonder who and what my number is being sold to…just like my email address.

      • That is a valid reason to keep a home phone! So few people have my cell phone number — probably fewer than I prefer. I am home most of the time and that’s the number I make calls from, receive most calls…

        But, I need to look for ways to cut costs so I still plan to find out if there would be any savings.

    • wicked

      3 of my 4 kids all have cell phones. 1 of those 3 has also put in a landline. A second of the 3 is thinking of doing it. Why? Children who are 1) getting closer to the age they can be left alone at home, and 2) have begun sending and receiving calls to friends.

      The convenience of having a phone handy at all times is great. The price of that and including internet and more for two people is outrageous. I’ve been looking into adding a line for my youngest, and it would more than double my bill, and that’s without internet, but adding text, which I don’t have or use.

      Life has become much too expensive.

  3. indypendent

    We dropped the landline phone about 4 years ago. We had cell phones and the landline phone. We simply got tired of paying the extra $50 a month for a phone that only got telemarketing and/or political calls.

    I think every household has to assess their own needs and their own situation as to what to do about having or not having a landline phone.

    But I have noticed there are alot of people that do not have landline phones – (I work in the medical field and have to enter demographics for my records and most everyone has a cell phone but alot don’t have landline and cell).

    I’ve noticed since I registered Republican – I am getting alot of political calls to my cell phone. I can’t remember but did voter registration require a cell phone number? Or if it required a phone number – I simply put my cell phone # down because I don’t have a landline – is that what is going on?

    • indypendent

      BTW – Our cell phones have the 750 minutes talk and unlimited text package – which is great for us.

      We never come close to using 750 minutes but our texts can run into the 800 range easily. All our family and friends use texting.

      I called T-Mobile (our provider) and asked if they had a cheaper plan with less talk minutes since we never come close to that level and they don’t have one at this time. But I found it interesting the customer representative told me that I was not the first person to request such a thing.

      Maybe texting has taken over talking – in everyday general use?

  4. tosmarttobegop

    I an thinking of writing a poll to show that the vast majority of people are Conservatives, here is a example of how it will show that the major are more Conservative in their thinking:

    1: Which is more of a concern for you today?

    a: the Deficit.

    b. Space aliens coming and having your brain for lunch.

    2: Which is more likely to happen to a child today in school?

    a: they will be taught leftist and socialist leaning ideology.

    b: They will fall victim to a pack of ravenous Werewolves.

    3. Which has more of a hardship impact upon your family and you?

    a. High taxes.

    b: The leaves turning from green to a lovely red and golden brown on the trees as the seasons change.

    4: Which is more your current fear?

    a: You will be laid off and it is because of Obama’s stimulus package failing to do what he promised it would.

    b: You were actually born a different gender and your entire life has been a falsehood and in fact it was all your parents fault. What you have taught were the genitals of your gender are actually those of the other gender. But since birth both your parents had wanted (insert “a boy” or “a girl” depending on which ever is the opposite of what you currently believe yourself to be) and have deceived you telling you that your
    wo-wo is a pe-pe and likewise.

    5:When walking down the street at night, which is a more reasonable fear of what will jump out from behind the next lamp post?

    a: Five illegal alien males who have came from Mexico looking for work and failing that, have turned to robbery and murder.

    b: A sex starved Bull Moose, with lust in his heart and you in his eye sight.

    (foot note: if the majority or all of your answers have been “a” you are a Conservative and should not be reading on this liberal, leftist leaning blog !)

    • Your poll proves without a doubt that not only am I a registered Republican but I am Conservative in my thinking. 😉

      • wicked

        I found b: A sex starved Bull Moose, with lust in his heart and you in his eye sight and the other b answers to be a more me. 😉

  5. tosmarttobegop


  6. ‘The Family’ Got Money from Alleged Terrorists

    The elite religious organization that is sometimes referred to as The Family—and that owns the infamous C Street House in Washington, D.C., where many congressmen live—received money from an alleged Islamic terrorist group, according to a group of Ohio ministers who’ve asked the IRS to investigate. ClergyVoice wrote a letter to the IRS Wednesday saying the Fellowship Foundation, which also sponsors the National Prayer Breakfast, violated the rules that allow it tax-exempt status, which don’t allow funding from such groups. In May and June of 2004, the foundation received two checks for $25,000 from the Islamic American Relief Agency, based in Missouri. That Islamic charity was named to a list of financial backers of terrorism that same year by the Senate Finance Committee. The foundation says it didn’t keep the money or use it to pay for overseas travel of lawmakers like Sen. John Ensign (R-NV) and Sen. Tom Coburn (R-OK). The Islamic charity was raided by the feds in 2004, but began lobbying lawmakers to clear its name shortly thereafter.

  7. wicked

    “Never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity.” – Unknown

    aka Consider the source.

  8. prairie pond

    I don’t know if you all have seen this yet, but I’ll quote the person who posted it where I saw it.

    “If you only do one thing today, watch this video.”

    • WSClark

      I saw that clip on MSNBC this evening – it was quite moving and straight to the point. It should be required viewing for ALL teens and parents.

      • indypendent

        I saw it too but when he was talking straight to the parents and adults that this bullying needs to stop – I have to wonder how many parents and adults really took it to heart?

        Or were they the same pious church goers that sit in the front pew and when the preacher tells them to stop gossiping – these are the people that smugly look around and think to themselves – I guess the preacher told you, didn’t he.

        In other words – they missed the entire point of this guy’s heartfelt message.

    • Anyone who could watch and remain dry eyed must be made of stone.

      • indypendent

        I agree – but I’ve seen alot of pious, self-righteous church people (not real Christians) who are just that – stone.

        When this recent talk of bullying popped up again – I thought back to the many times Dr. Tiller and his staff (and other abortion doctors/staffs) have been bullied and harassed over the years.

        And who was behind all that nonsense ?

        And what was done about it? Absolutely nothing.

        Another example of bullying seen as okay- Little League games. How many parents and/or coaches have been videotaped getting into a brawl over some game?

        Bullies come in all sizes, shapes, colors and ethnic background. But when it comes from the church leaders – that is when I find it the most offensive.

    • My daughter went to a “tweet up” earlier this week and met Jeff Pulver who speaks in the above YouTube video.

      I won’t do as good a job of describing Jeff’s mission and goals as she did but I’m going to attempt. I’ll ramble I’m sure, please bear with me — I think this is very important!

      Jeff emphasizes connections between people. Connections that allow us all to have a voice, conversations, a place to learn, socialize, be us… And, he says the big businesses like AT&T are pushing to get the highest speeds and best internet connections for themselves while leaving common man the dregs. This must be fought! He did bring up Al Franken and his noble efforts to ensure net neutrality.

      Let me repeat some of Jeff’s stories (as he told at the ‘tweet up’ and my daughter told me — I guess I’m saying this is a retelling so take it as such). He said he was a geeky unpopular kid who really didn’t have many friends. At home his geeky parents were big time ham radio operators. They spoke to people all over the world and he listened. You had to be at least 12 years old to have a ham radio license so he spent many years listening before he actually participated. While listening he explored different cultures, ideas, he learned rude people turned him off more than people who thought differently than he did. He connected! He had friends!

      Fast forward to his teens. He loved music! He collected music, and he made himself fine stereo systems with knowledge gained beginning in childhood from those ham radio days. Thus, he said he was invited to parties in the role of DJ. He took his music and superior sound systems and he got to go to parties, where he listened. Witnessed connections and took note.

      After college he went to work at a dotcom company, quickly was promoted through the ranks because he was a really really smart man. He was a vice president in a huge company officed in the World Trade Center, making big bucks, living the good life. In around 2000 there were spectacular failures in the dot com companies. He says there were frequent all-hands meetings and org charts were handed to you as you entered the meeting, everyone quickly looked to see if their name was still there. And sure enough one day his name wasn’t any longer on that org chart.

      Not too long after he lost his job planes were flown into the World Trade Center and his former coworkers died.

      to be continued…

    • Those deaths had a great impact on him. He became obsessed for awhile with every detail of 911. One thing that truly bothered him was the deaths of rescue workers who weren’t able to communicate with one another because their communication devices were all on different channels. He remembered some code that had been around quite a few years but not utilized — it was SIP (don’t know what the “S” stands for but we all know the IP is internet protocol). He used SIP and wrote the code for VoIP (Voice over Internet Protocol). He started Vonage which provides telephone service via a broadband connection. He fought the FCC! He is the chief writer of what is referred to as the Pulver Order, which was adopted in 2004 by the Federal Communications Commission as the first FCC ruling regarding Internet Protocol (IP) communications.

      to be continued…

    • Here is one of many pages you can find about Jeff Pulver. The video on this page is interesting.

  9. Finally, why did I post all this to yesterday’s Public Square instead of todays?

    Maybe I should have posted this question to the Random Thoughts thread…