Wednesday, 9/29/10, Public Square

“Regret for the things we did can be tempered by time; it is regret for the things we did not do that is inconsolable.” —  Sidney J. Harris

OK!  Pony up, folks!  Otherwise, be prepared for Boehner, the head clown, leading the clowning around of the House under the G.O.P. leadership.  What will they accomplish?  Remember!  It wasn’t that long ago, we haven’t even fully recovered and they haven’t changed.

29 Comments

Filed under The Public Square

29 responses to “Wednesday, 9/29/10, Public Square

  1. I read an interesting article this morning that addressed obstructionism from several vantage points. It addressed Speaker Pelosi obstructing Repbulicans, the Republicans obstructing on everything democratic. It actually started with Gingrich obstructing and went forward with the newly elected party ‘paying back.’ I can’t find it right now, been too many places. If I run across it I’ll share the link. One of the main thoughts I took from the whole op-ed piece was that if things go well the voting public has no reason to vote out the scoundrels, so if the democrats are in charge the republicans must make sure the public is frustrated so they have a chance. Of course, if the republicans are in charge then it’s the democrats who must make sure the public is frustrated…

  2. wicked

    Seems like it’s politics 24/7/365, with absolutely nothing getting done. To explain that, I mean that the people we elect are focused on politics, not us, not the betterment of the country, just politics and filling their pockets.

  3. Yep! The politics of getting elected, filling their pockets as full as possible, getting reelected so they can change pants and have new pockets.

    But who cooperates? The voters. Will we learn? Let’s see, we gave republicans 12 years before we kicked them out, now we’ve given democrats 4 years and everyone that does polls seems to thinks they’ll be kicked out this fall. So, when we replace the democrats with the republicans, how long will they get this time? Most importantly, how long will we just move the revolving door? What is that definition of insanity?

  4. Here’s the article. It bashes Pelosi and democrats and says republicans will do better because they know they have to… Ya know, it’s one side, and if the op-ed had been written by someone who admires Pelosi the other side would have been bashed. We know how it works, we do it ourselves. 😉

    — snip —

    “A re-empowered Republican majority won’t mistreat their former tormenters “because of a sober recognition that the public’s tolerance for non-productivity is at an all-time low,” argues Roskam, a member of the minority leadership as a deputy whip. “Fundamentally, everybody is looking at this process and they’re saying it’s desperately broken, and we’re at a very serious, perilous time…The voters have an expectation that people are going to come up here to try and solve problems as opposed to doing what we’ve seen in the past.”

    House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer—who predictably rejects the popular scenario of a Republican victory on November 2nd—doesn’t claim Democratic purity, but argues that it was Gingrich who started the cycle of abuse that persists to this day.

    “They say they’re going to be more transparent, more this, more that. We’ll have to see,” Hoyer scoffs. “The reality is that Newt Gingrich had a theory, and the theory was, ‘Bob Michel, I don’t agree with you. Bob Michel, you want to work things so that the Congress passes bills that are consensus bills’ ”—a reference to the courtly former House minority leader of the 1980s and early ‘90s who often reached across the aisle to get things done. “Newt Gingrich’s theory was: As long as you do that, there’s no reason for the public to change leadership. What you have to do is confront. You have to accuse. You have to denigrate—so that the public comes to believe that the institution is broken, it’s immoral, it’s da-da-da-da, whatever. And therefore they will turn to us!”

    Hoyer continues his parable: “Newt Gingrich pursued that theory for 16 years. Bob Michel left the Congress. Newt Gingrich prevailed. And, very frankly, that lesson was to some degree learned by the Democrats. To the extent that we continue to do that, the public is going to be frustrated and the legislative process will not work well. But that has been the underlying operational principle that the Republicans have pursued during this Congress and, frankly, during the last Congress.”

    Gingrich, now a Fox News commentator, didn’t respond to my request for his take on Hoyer’s analysis, but David Dreier disbelieving exclaims: “Oh my gosh! A speaker who left 12 years ago gets the blame?”

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-09-29/gop-payback-members-plot-vengeance-for-pelosis-iron-rule/2/

    • tosmarttobegop

      Sorry that dog does not hunt, there is no lesson that has been learned simply they are going with the for now you all hate them so we have a choice to get in.

      There is no thought of any need to change from how they acted before.
      The end result is that since you are not happy being raped by that smelly drunk I also being a smelly drunk you might think I am more enjoyable at raping you!

    • paulasayles

      “A re-empowered Republican majority won’t mistreat their former tormenters “because of a sober recognition that the public’s tolerance for non-productivity is at an all-time low…”

      Whatever. They said the same thing when they put out the Contract On America. They said, “Oh, those mean old Democrats shut us out of the system, but WE won’t do that because we are sincere in our desire to DO RIGHT by the American people…” blah, blah, blah.

      There is no civility left in Congress, let’s face it. And it doesn’t really matter because not much that gets done there is in the best interest of the people anyway.

      In my mind, there is only one very pathetic reason to vote Democrat this fall and that is because Republican policies are mind-numbingly stupid. Republicans have been backing the same horse (or should I say beating the same dead horse?) for decades and they aren’t even interested in LOOKING for a new mode of transportation. This does not say ANYTHING for Democrats. They don’t really deserve our vote, but they will get mine by default.

  5. tosmarttobegop

    I am not sure which is more disappointing, that they think we are nothing but a bunch of fools to be played.

    Or that it actually works so well being treated like a bunch of fools to be played?

  6. wicked

    Is anyone else following the Christine Donnell angle? I’m certainly enjoying the joke.

    2nd school suggests Christine O’Donnell fudged record

    Poor Christine. She stated on her LinkedIn profile that her education was from Fairleigh Dickinson University, Claremont Graduate University, and the University of Oxford. But Oxford says no.
    Greg Sargent of the Washington Post reported that O’Donnell’s Oxford connection appeared to be that she took a course conducted by an organization called the Phoenix Institute, which, as Sargent wrote, “merely rented space at Oxford.”

    As for Claremont… “Claremont Graduate University has no student or education record for an individual named Christine O’Donnell,” a school spokesman told Christina Bellantoni of Talking Points Memo, who confirmed Gary Scott’s blog report.

    And for Fairliegh Dickinson? In an earlier dispute, meanwhile, O’Donnell has drawn accusations that she misled the public about her graduation from Fairleigh Dickinson University. O’Donnell attended the school’s cap-and-gown ceremony in 1993 but only this month received her diploma. Her staff told news outlets that she just recently met a final course requirement, but O’Donnell had previously said that the school withheld her diploma because of outstanding tuition debt.

    Not to mention the “Witchcraft” she was a part of in high school, except that part about the Satanic altar that she states was a part of it. But you see, witches (and Wiccans) don’t believe in Satan, the Devil, or any of that b.s., so she wasn’t “dabbling in Witchcraft” as she stated several years ago, she was dabbling in Satanism. Just one more lie to add to the above education ones. 🙂

    • When I think about some of the tea party candidates I know it can get worse than it is now. Just think, maybe those Mama Grizzlies will go on to higher office. Palin pres, Bachmann vice pres, O’Donnell or Angle Speaker… There are a couple of new ones out in California too, aren’t there? No brains, education, experience, just everyday folks is what the republicans say: “They are just like us and that’s perfect.”

    • tosmarttobegop

      which, as Sargent wrote, “merely rented space at Oxford.”

      Well they had to rent it, when they told Oxford it was for a human sacrifice the University would not let them have a room for free!

  7. tosmarttobegop

    (I kind of feel bad about it afterwards.
    I do try not to let out that mean demon that is a part of my soul.

    But hey there were several even cons going after him… And after all I am a Republican and the scent of blood in the water brings it out!)

    HeY give Division a brake! He use to stand on street corners and spout this stuff…. And people just walked by ignoring him… giving him more distance…. Shaking their heads in disbelief…. THEY WOULD NOT EVEN STOP AND READ THE DAMN SIGN HANGING AROUND HIS NECK!

    Here at least someone pays attention to him, read his sign and actually on occasion talks back to him.

    This is much better then the time he spend setting in a corner all by himself and talking…. The only one that was hearing him was himself….. Then he would argue with himself and kept losing the argument!

  8. tosmarttobegop

    I heard a Pompeo ad this morning what it basically translated to was:

    Goyle will screw just any ole whore walking down the street… I only want to screw you!

  9. Since we’ve all been hearing the recent reports on the widening divide of income inequality, here is a book review I found interesting.

    “Economist Robert Reich isn’t surprised at the anemic economic recovery from the meltdown in 2008. His new book, Aftershock: The Next Economy and America’s Future, argues that the economy isn’t going to get moving again until we address a fundamental problem: the growing concentration of wealth and income among the richest Americans.”

    There is even an excerpt of the book at the link below.

    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=130189031&sc=fb&cc=fp

    • prairie pond

      I love me some Robert Reich! Clinton would have been a lot better of if he would have, ya know, LISTENED to Reich.

  10. On Tuesday night’s The Daily Show, Arianna announced that HuffPost will provide buses from New York for all those attending Jon Stewart’s Rally to Restore Sanity, scheduled to take place in Washington on October 30.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/28/sanity-bus-arianna-offers_n_742739.html

    I can’t even explain it to myself so don’t ask me why, but I want to attend this rally. I detest crowds, don’t have the money to spare, don’t think it will actually serve any purpose, and I still want to go. I think I must be progressing into my second childhood.

    • wicked

      I’ll go with you. 😉

      Arianna will be on Bill Maher’s show Friday at 9, which is repeated again at 10. She’s one of my favorites! Sure beats Brietbart last Friday. I nearly hit the TV with a brick.

  11. tosmarttobegop

    Me too Fnord, perhaps it is because I want sanity too often it seems only insanity gets noticed.

    We either delute ourselves that we are the sane ones and the majority is on our side.

    Or we are the insane and do not see reality?

    • All we have to do is figure out how to get to New York! They have a free bus from there. 😉

      • wicked

        I think they figure there’s a lot of people in NY and the northeast who would go, but transportation is a problem, thus the free bus.

        Too bad (as always) that I’m stuck in Kansas, where the only free buses are one way trips to Hell. (And I don’t even believe in Hell!)

      • prairie pond

        HA! That’s funny Fnord. I was watching that show and thought to myself, if I were going, I’d go to New York and ride the bus with the Huffpo people instead of going directly to DC.

        Of course, I’m too broke to go anywhere, but ya gotta know, three hours or so on a bus, to and fro, with those folks would be a blast, not to mention it would feed my lonely midwestern soul.

        Sigh. I’ll just have to read about it.

  12. tosmarttobegop

    I hate being on unemployment and the stupid Government I have not received anything for three weeks now and I finally got through on the phone today.

    Seems it is because I have not been sending in some paper work that I had not received!
    The only thing I had gotten was on the 15th and it was back in the mail in 30 minutes.

    But it seems I was suppose to get a packet back in August and to have been sending in a listing of all my job searches since Aug 15th. Now they did receive the paper work I send back.

    But because it had the wrong dates on it for the week they wanted which was back in Aug not the week before I received it.

    So that does not count and will not until I have sent in the correct information for the weeks before and since.

    I need a Job!

    • Sounds to me like you have a job and are working hard to keep up with whatever they expect!

    • prairie pond

      Me too, TSTB. I have a job, but I need a job with benefits that pays a living wage. My health insurance costs are killing me. I’m paying through the nose for insurance I can’t afford to use.

  13. Will, that is a beautiful sunset on the header! Is that one of your photos?

    • WSClark

      I can’t take credit for that one. I do plan on taking a “photo expedition” for similar pix with my daughter soon, but we can’t work out a day just yet.

      The best times for landscapes photos is just before sunrise and just after sunset. The light is softest then and provides the best opportunity for sun/moon streaked skies.

      Kansas is great for landscape photos that are not the run of the mill types. I have scouted a few out of town locations, so I am ready to go.

      I have more zoo and air show photos to add to my FB page, so check them out in the next few days or so. I have picked up my game quite a bit as a photographer and am growing more comfortable showing my “work” in public.

      • prairie pond

        Will, you know you and your daughter are always welcome out here for some photo ops.

        And some great food….

        Ditto for all my other blog buddies!

  14. Zippy

    I saw Jack Cafferty on CNN harrumping (as usual) about “When is government going to discover austerity”?

    Cafferty is, of course, a moron. If you look around the country, state and local government are going broke. It takes six weeks to process an unemployment claim in Arizona (hang on, Smart).
    Vital services–including police and fire–have been cut back.

    The stupid presumption is that the federal goverment is somehow sucking up all the money. In fact, if you take away the two money hogs–the wars–federal spending has been relatively modest (yes, even if the stimulus bill is included).

    And taxes are at the lowest rates in a generation.

    The problem is that we have a system set up to suck the money in the upper class accounts, and keep it there.

    And the Teapublicans want to make it worse.