Friday, 9/3/10, Public Square

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  1. david B

    Ut oh!

    Vanity Fair:
    Sarah Palin: The Sound and the Fury

    hhttp://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2010/10/sarah-palin-201010?currentPage=1

    “She exploits the same populist impulse that fueled the career of William Jennings Bryan—an impulse described by one Bryan biographer as “the yearning for a society run by and for ordinary people who lead virtuous lives.”

    Palin does not always treat those ordinary people well, however—it depends on who is watching. Of the many famous people who have stayed at the Hyatt in Wichita (Cher, Reba McEntire, Neil Young), Sarah Palin ranks as the all-time worst tipper: $5 for seven bags. But the bellhops had it good in Kansas, compared with the bellman at another midwestern hotel who waited up until past midnight for Palin and her entourage to check in—and then got no tip at all for 10 bags. He was stiffed again at checkout time. The same went for the maids who cleaned Palin’s rooms in both places—no tip whatsoever. “

    • Ditto on Glenn Beck. My nephew works at a hotel in NYC. He said Beck was the rudest celebrity he had ever dealt with. He says Beck is extremely arrogant. No surprise there.

    • She is just trying to establish that she doesn’t believe in bailouts. 😉

    • wicked

      Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t William Jennings Bryan the loser in the Scopes trial?

      WJB was a Democrat. 3 time Presidential candidate. A real screwball. LOL The Dems would laugh him out of the party now days.

      I’m an Inherit the Wind junkie, along with others.

  2. tosmarttobegop

    Of all the faults I find in Sarah Palin, tipping is so low on the list it does not actually make the list.
    It is part of the partisan game, like the 57 States thing and misspeaks in general.

    The Governor of Arizona and her brain freeze, yeah is was a moment of embarrassment but concerning all the meaningful issue with her and that State it solely was nothing more then expelling gas in public on the importance meter.

    Yet that story is getting as much coverage as if she had said that the way to recovery was to kill children.
    It is one of parts if the partisan game that is so mindless when ever either side does it.

    I seriously doubt if Palin was President that the headline would include:

    President Palin caused the total collapse of the Government… And oh yeah she was a loosely tipper while doing it!

    • I look over those who are currently in the news as wanting the Republican nomination for the 2012 elections and I remind myself it’s too early, someone we don’t know about will come forward. There has to be a person who stands head and shoulders above this group we’re hearing about. If not, the Republicans are in real trouble, and so is America.

    • wicked

      tstb, you truly believe the Gov of Arizona had a brain freeze moment? If so, I’d have to say that her brain is permanently frozen, because there’s no doubt that she was avoiding answering the question asked of her not just once, but multiple times, over and over. If she was the classy lady she seems to think she is, she should just tell the press that she has no intention of answering the question and stands by her original statement. To err is human, after all. Admitted a mistake shows knowledge has been acquired. As it is, she looks like a stubborn moron. Could it be she is?

      • As it is, she looks like a stubborn moron. Could it be she is?

        There is a high statistical probability.

      • indypendent

        I watched the rerun of that brain freeze moment. What made me angrier was the way she just laughed after the long pause. What was so damn funny?

        But what was more telling was her reaction to the press afterwards.

        It was quite clear to everyone the tension after being asked the headless corpse question several times was getting to the woman. Rather than just answering with a polite ‘no comment’ or that she stands by her original statement, she went with the look of arrogant disdain on her face and abrupty turns around and walks away.

        That was the worst thing she could have done because now that is the story for the next few days.

      • tosmarttobegop

        I am referring to the video that keeps being played, it is not from afterwards when she was asked about the claim of decapitations. The video is from when she was said to be reading from a scripted answer and either lost her place and then had to try and find it again. Or that suddenly it was not making sense to her.

        LOL I have never lost my place when reading something have you?

        Believe me there is so much to point to about her and that law attacking this is nothing more the putting icing on a cake.

      • tosmarttobegop

        BTW there really is no doubt she is a stubborn moron. But that is showed more by her stances then by a simple moment of losing her thought train.

      • wicked

        My bad, tstb. All I’d seen was the video of her being asked to refute her statement, then the news people hounding her afterward. And she deserved the hounding.

  3. As we enter Labor Day weekend I found a story at NPR worth reading. It’s just a few paragrahs so takes a minute to read, but it leaves you feeling happy, proud and inspired. It’s about men who collect garbage. Remember yesterday when we discussed the neglect of expertise, the rush to mediocrity? I found this part of this article very inspiring —

    “When I first came on the job, there was one old timer … I remember Gordy Flow his name was. One day, he stopped the truck. He tells me, ‘Angelo, you look down this block first. See all the sidewalks are all crowded up with garbage?’ So I think nothing of it. My father always told me to respect my elders. I get to the end of the block, and he stops me again. ‘Get out of the truck, look back. Nice and clean right? People could walk on the sidewalk. Guys can make deliveries. Be proud of yourself,’ Bruno explained.”

    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=129604903&sc=fb&cc=fp

    • Medved’s reasoning skills are that of a 12 year-old spoiled arrogant brat.

      God thinks that the progressive version of social justice is discriminatory? To who? Let’s see…who did Jesus help?

      God must be so ashamed of his own Son for helping the poor…like modern progressives always want to do. Boy are WE on the wrong path!

      Thank God Medved has it all figured out! God wants us to err on the side of giving too much to the millionaires and politicians. How did Jesus get things so wrong??

      • indypendent

        I suspect if God came down from the Heavens and told these ‘real’ Republicans they are wrong, they would all spit in God’s face and call him a GINO – God in Name Only.

        You know, these are the same people who are attempting to rewrite the Bible according to the ‘right’ version of things.

        I wonder how God feels about that?

      • wicked

        He’s probably less impressed than He was with the first one.

      • I am ROTFLMAO at the cons calling God a Gyno–I mean GINO. LOL!!

  4. I am smiling! The temperature is in the fifties! Ah, it really feels great! 🙂

  5. Yes, unemployment is dismal, but August was the 8th consecutive month showing job growth in the private sector. When we look at all that is gloomy, pause for a second to see the rainbow behind the dark clouds. It will buoy your spirit if even for that tiny second.

    • Yes, there may be a brief rainbow. Let’s not fool ourselves, though; the rainbow is more transient than the clouds, and the clouds are what will be remembered.

      The number of jobs created < the number of new entrants into the labor force = increased rate of unemployment (all other things related to computing the rate being equal).

    • I know. (sigh)

      I hear all the doom and gloom and understand that our economy stinks and there are many indicators of worse, but I also look for good. It keeps me busy and off the streets. 😉

  6. indypendent

    I heard all the gloom and doom about the economy and the unemployment rate – yada, yada and more yada.

    But one analyst on some show (I don’t remember which one) said that people are currently blaming Obama for the high unemployment rate but do they even realize that if Obama had not done what he did that the unemployment rate would be even higher today?

    Sometimes I think Obama should have just let the whole damn thing fall down before he even reached the White House. And then simply point the finger at Bush and Gang and not say one single word.

    But Obama cared too much about the country and that was his downfall. He was able to look forward and at the big picture – while Republicans can only look straight ahead in their narrow tube of arrogance and ignorance.

    • And there’s the rub, indy. The general ignorance in this country is stupefying; when one gets into “the dismal science”, or other technical disciplines, it explodes exponentially.

      Thus, the difficulty; how to explain in a thirty-second sound bite that which economists write papers of length measured in multiples of ten, replete with (gasp!) equations with Greek letters, graphs of curves, etc., in disagreeing over whether the delta is, e.g., 3.5% or 3.4%.

      I do not possess the answer. BTW, “not doing anything” would not cause “the whole damn thing (to) fall down before he even reached the White House”; rather, that which has occurred would have occurred, only more spectacularly. Translated: it still would be the fault of the current administration.

      • indypendent

        You’re right and I know the blame still falls to the guy in the WH at the time things are occurring – but why are the average Americans too ignorant to see it took years to get to that cliff?

        And now it looks like the same Pied Pipers that took us to that cliff are poised to get another running start at that cliff and this time – they will take us over and then be blaming Obama all the way down to the bottom.

    • I just wish people would stop assigning blame, which is a fruitless pursuit and start looking at accountability instead.

      To what can we attribute our current condition instead of to whom? Because the what indicts the who, and we all pretty much know the who anyway, but if we all sat down and did some research into the what, not only would we be better informed as a society, but we might even get some answers to the problem and figure out a way to prevent it from happening again.

      But when people go casting about for someone to blame, they generally don’t look too closely and they get it wrong and they don’t take it any further because they aren’t actually trying to SOLVE anything. I want solutions, man.

  7. indypendent

    I seriously think Obama should throw a wrench into the 2012 elections and announce that he will not run for re-election.

    I think there are some smart and charismatic Democrats who could run for president and win. But I would like to make one condition on this scenario – Alan Grayson from Florida has to be vice president!

    I love Grayson.

    • I would like to see a national search for the person with the most integrity in the entire country. I don’t care if its a he or a she, old, young, black, white, etc. I think this time in our history SCREAMS for someone with integrity.

      Maybe someone with integrity could turn things rightside up because they’ve been upside down for too long now.

      • indypendent

        But as we have seen all too many times, one person’s view of integrity is another person’s view of dishonesty.

        Case in point – Beck’s restoring honor and integrity rally.

        I have to question Beck’s judgment of what is really integrity and honor when he knowingly tells a lie.

        I agree with you that was a stupid lie – but how would their group be handling this story if it was Obama that told that same lie?

        You see – one man’s lie is just making things ‘easier’ and the other man’s lie is just a damn socialistic lie. It all depends on the view of the particular side of the political fence you are on.

      • One man’s lie is just making things ‘easier’ and the other man’s lie is just a damn socialistic lie.

        You’ve got that right, indy. Guess that’s what 6176 means when he says we have to change our way of thinking and looking at things before we can get on the same page. I just don’t know what horrible catastrophe it’s going to take in order to make s0me people open their minds a little bit.

  8. indypendent

    Did the people in Hell get ice water? Beck really admits lying while leading a rally to restore honor and integrity?

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/03/glenn-beck-admits-lying-i_n_704958.html

    • It’s a stupid lie to call him on when the other lies he tells are so outrageous.

      Of course, it would be a full-time job to map the lies he tells on a daily basis. Which would be harder, wouldn’t it?

      • indypendent

        I find all their lies to be stupid. But this one in particular could be refuted by the National Archives – and didn’t he know that it would be investigated by someone, somewhere?

        Beck reminds me of a televangelist wannabe – he uses the same old con man, snake oil salesmen pitch.

        Why – he even can manufacture those crocodile tears on que.

  9. indypendent

    But what I don’t understand is Beck’s reasoning for telling this particular lie – did you notice that?

    It was just ‘easier’ this way? Why not just tell the truth – that is easier.

  10. indypendent

    I would like to see a national search for the person with the most integrity in the entire country. I don’t care if its a he or a she, old, young, black, white, etc. I think this time in our history SCREAMS for someone with integrity


    It would be interesting to witness such a search. We would have to market it as a television reality show to get most Americans to even tune into to it though.

    And then once television fame comes into play – all bets on that integrity would probably be off.

    I suspect the person with the most integrity would likely not be suitable for the television cameras.

    I used to believe the majority of people are good but lately I have to wonder if I am just naive.

    And I hate to say this, but the past few years when I am out shopping with my granddaughter, I cannot tell you the number of time senior citizens actually break into a run to beat me and a small child to the checkout line. I mean – they actually break into a run. I’ve had several of these senior citizens push my cart away with my small granddaughter in the seat to get to where they want to go.

    What has happened to all the nice old grandmas and grandpas? Then I wonder if these are the same senior citizens who proudly belong to the Tea Party and rant against socialized medicine while they are in the pharmacy waiting line to pick up meds that my tax dollars paid for.

    Well – I’m sorry – that is my latest pet peeve – rude senior citizens. And these are the ones that complain about young people?

  11. indypendent

    He’s probably less impressed than He was with the first one

    wicked – you’re probably right. LMAO

    The Bible has been translated alot of times – hasn’t it?

  12. tosmarttobegop

    they would all spit in God’s face and call him a GINO – God in Name Only

    Now that made me chuckle!

    SCREAMS for someone with integrity.

    That is me… Ok you caught me I am lying!

    Earlier today I had to drive the pick up and my wife was the last to drive it so the radio was set to a Christian station. I heard what has to be one of the dumbest comments and that is saying a lot since I often watch the CSPAN call in show.

    Some one called in and said: “As Christians we should not focus on feeding the poor.
    We Should focus on bring them to the Lord so when they died they will go to Heaven!”.

    Oh boy…. First I end up trying to show that not all Republicans are mindless simpletons.

    Then it turns to defending Christianity against the morons who come out with such logic!

    OH THE SLIPPER SLOPE I AM MELTING …. I AM MELTING!

    • wicked

      I’m sad to say that while downtown today and driving home along south Broadway, I saw many, many homeless. At least somebody was willing to feed them.

  13. Zippy

    What’s at issue coming into the elections is whether the crisis is taken seriously enough to put it ahead of election-year politics, and engage to “No” community head-on.

    The answer, ironically, is no.

    How to lose an election without really trying:
    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gWifx4pzOPIWhSx1Xff9H1vua02AD9I0L0D80

    Whatever gains we’ve seen this year will disappear in an electoral onslaught.

    Some small upsides to the coming disaster:
    1) As has been mentioned before, the newly radicalized Republican party will be like the dog that caught the care (thank you, Bob Inglis, for that gem).

    2) Obama might discover that pen of his can be used to assert the Executive Branch authority, too.

    3) Republicans will have to get any extension oftax cuts for their plutocratic friends past Obama’s signature. See #2 (or I’ll see you in Hell, as that will really be Game Over if he caves on that).

    But the downside–the same agenda that wrecked the world economy front-and-center again–is a little too scary to meekly accept as inevitable.

    By the way, I’m not sure who initially advocating not voting (I know it wasn’t me), but I’ve never thought that was a good idea. Writing in your own name or Mickey Mouse is even preferable to that, if you really can’t stand any of the choices.

    Register your objection!

  14. Zippy

    . . .caught the car. . .oops.