Fighting Themselves

Infighting could hurt Republican chances in midterms, RNC members say

Republican National Committee members urged each other to put aside their squabbles and focus on winning big in this fall’s midterm elections at a closed-door meeting this week. After November, and only after November, “if we want to have a convention to argue among ourselves, we can do that,” said former New Hampshire Governor John Sununu, chair of his state party. Sununu later said that infighting is a luxury a party can indulge in only with a super majority. Republicans, eying the president’s slip in the polls, are confident they can win the 40 seats needed to retake the House, and some are optimistic about winning the Senate. But little leaks have become distractions, like a letter saying the RNC is deeper in debt than reported, and an email to foreign ambassadors offering meetings with Chairman Michael Steele. The Nevada Republican Party chair told members, “Forget this fighting—just send us money,” as she tries to help Sharron Angle unseat Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid.  Read more here.

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  1. I have great confidence they’ll get it together and be marching lockstep to regain majorities.

    Then what?

    Then they start blaming the democrats for being obstructionists, and it goes on, like a circle, never ending.

  2. itolduso

    “Then they start blaming the democrats for being obstructionists, and it goes on, like a circle, never ending.”

    Sounds like now, now doesn;t it. Except it is the Democrats, who hold a majority in both houses, and well as the Presidency.

    Politicians are by nature creatures who don;t take responsibility for their own actions and parties, but who consistently blame the other guy.

    Unfortunately, we buy into it and vote the “party” line.

    Fool me once, shame on you
    Fol me twice, shame on me.

    And the circle goes on.

  3. What do you think about this new Republican initiative to ditch the 14th amendment?

    Here’s a snip from an op-ed piece that sums up how I feel about this political ploy. Problem I see is that we have a bunch of stupid Americans and they’re falling all over themselves in support of ditching this constitutional amendment. When did the brain rot get this bad?

    But hey, since it is in vogue to alter the U.S. Constitution, why don’t we just go all out and have congressional hearings to re-examine the entire document? We have blue ribbon panels in Washington for everything else, so why not pop the hood on that old document and bring it into the 21st century?

    Let’s start with Article 1, which states that you must be at least 25 to serve in the U.S. House of Representatives and 30 in the U.S. Senate. Since our men and women can die for America beginning at the age of 17, vote at 18 and drink at 21, this is an arcane law.

    We’ve got zillionaires building Fortune 500 companies before they are eligible to run, so why not let them take their shot? If you can be senile and serve as long as you want, why not give the young bucks a shot?

    Whack the 2nd Amendment. That’s right, we don’t need it. If no one had guns, would we really be that bad of a country?

    According to the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence, more than 100,000 people are shot and killed annually on average. The framers originally intended for militias to be created. With the number of city, county, state and federal law enforcement agencies, they should be able to round up every gun in America. We’re paying these people; so let them do what they do.

    If guns were banned totally, our crime rates would be similar to that of countries such as England; our gun-related homicide rate is 44 times that of developed countries England and Wales, says the Brady Center.

    Tighten up the 10th Amendment. By doing this, we get rid of the constant states’ rights battles. Just put all of the relevant laws on the federal level, such as jurisdiction over education and voting, and then we won’t have to have 50 different ways of doing business.

    Let’s junk the 22nd Amendment. If we’ve got a great president, why limit how long he or she can serve? I don’t mind a four or five-term president. As long as the people are happy, let ’em keep handling our business! Franklin Delano Roosevelt is consistently voted the best president in American history. Would he have gotten that designation by just serving two terms?

    It’s un-American for a group of people to have no representation. The 23rd Amendment provides presidential electors to the District of Columbia. That’s not enough. They need their own members in the House, and two U.S. senators. Fair is fair, and this is dead wrong.

    The Equal Rights Amendment was never ratified, and it should have been. Why continue to screw over women in a male-dominated world? Come on, guys, stop being wimps and let the ladies have their say.

    I’m willing to put $1,000 down that the Republicans and Democrats won’t bother backing any of this. They’ll likely say this is going too far and we should take it one step at a time. The same folks want to ban gay marriage in the Constitution and now change citizenship.

    Sorry, folks. The U.S. Constitution is far too precious to be messed with by a bunch of rabid politicians who don’t have the guts to look their far left and right supporters in the eye and say they are going to truly lead on immigration.

    Let me know when this silly sideshow is over. Like many Americans, I am too busy trying to tackle real problems. This clearly isn’t one of them.

    http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/08/06/martin.fourteenth.amenment/index.html

    • itolduso

      I think any movement to change the 14th Amendment is BS. I understand the problem, and I understand the desire to do something about it.

      While I applaud them for following the rules for amending the effects of the Constitution by amending the Constitution instead of judicial fiat, I don;t think the issue is worth revising the Constitution over, nor does it create such a burden on the people or the government that it must be changed.

      I think those who are here illegally must be dealt with, and I don;t mean amnesty. However, if you are born here, you are a citizen. So the Constitution says, so it should be followed. And not amended.

  4. itolduso

    “When did the brain rot get this bad?”

    When they invented instant oatmeal. 🙂

  5. One place I was reading yesterday about this 14th amendment discussion had comments that I read. (paraphrasing) — This is such a biased article, no one wants to ditch the 14th amendment, they just want to reword it. When another commenter pointed out ‘rewording’ would be amending and explained how the Constitution is amended, the person then argued that things were ‘reworded’ every day…

    Brain rot.

  6. My google gadget, Quote of the Day, reminded me of the arguments some are making that go along the lines of — the people of California spoke and one judge has no right….

    “I think Superman should go on the Larry King show and announce that he would come back to life if people in all 50 states wanted him to.” — Dave Barry

    Maybe while we’re ditching the 14th we should go back through and make all the changes ‘the public’ wanted at the time. Since we have a bunch of minorities will only the blacks be not quite human?

    Brain rot.

  7. I don’t believe Americans have a chance of solutions until the loud-mouthed media is told to sit down and shut up. What is talked about isn’t what needs to be talked about. What passes for news, isn’t anything more than hyperbole. Here’s a classless Republican talk jock keeping the fires stirred —

    Rush Limbaugh said the press gave Michelle Obama a pass on her vacation to Spain because of “our slave past.” “As far as the media’s concerned, Mrs. Obama deserves this,” Limbaugh said on his Friday radio show. “Look at the sordid past. Look at our slave past, look at the discriminatory past. It’s only fair that people of color get their taste of the wealth of America too.” The shock jock compared Obama’s vacation to Nancy Reagan’s swapping of the White House china.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/06/rush-limbaugh-media-givin_n_674071.html

    Brain rot.

  8. tosmarttobegop

    This 14th amendment thing is similar to a number of time that the entire subject is not thought out or has became so focused that they do not see the entire results.

    It is like the time that a leading Conservative member brought about legislation that’s intent was to stifle someone else from receiving due.

    But the end result was that it stifled the Conservatives from receiving their due.
    The mad rush was done and the legislation was reversed.

  9. tosmarttobegop

    Watch out itoldyouso you are beginning to sound like one of us damn moderates!

  10. indypendent

    Let the conservatives fight the moderates and may the better man/woman win.

    But one thing I don’t think any of these Republicans have even thought about is that what will happen if they regain control of the House and/or Senate and they go back to their massive spending ways.

    Who will they have to blame it on? And if the voters don’t like what they see from the Republicans, will this make a second Obama term a sure thing?

    • indypendent

      I would still like to see a third party (I know, it is not going to happen) and give both parties a run for their money.

  11. I would just like to see a majority of Congress remember what they’re there to do, and it isn’t to fight among themselves. It’s absolutely wonderful that there are differing opinions, and outrageous they can’t work toward compromise.

    Explaining your own idea reveals its strengths and weaknesses. They have to talk it through and make everyone a winner. Wouldn’t that be encouraging to see legislators adopt problem solving skills?

  12. I think this might be THE year the economy is issue number one. Not gay marriage, not abortion, not any of the so-called moral issues. I would see that as putting the GRAND back in the old party and giving Republicans a huge advantage.

    What happens if they only make campaign promises but don’t carry through, don’t have solutions? I don’t know.

  13. You know, I’m ready for Republicans to be on the hot seat. It’s much more difficult to actually accomplish something than to simply sit back and criticize. I am looking forward to all their solutions and great ideas and for everything to be comin’ up roses!

  14. tosmarttobegop

    I have not said anything on this thread yet so here it goes!

    You all are just eating this up because we are becoming as disjointed as the Democratic party often appears.

  15. The Democratic Party doesn’t only appear disjointed!

  16. I meant it when I said I’m ready for Republicans to have the majority. The one thing I learned from bushco is that they weren’t able to destroy America — close, and maybe since they brought us down this far the next Republican administration can finish the job.

    And maybe that’s what it will take!

    Here we are barely beginning a recovery and people are touting Republicans as saviors. They’ve not expressed a single solution, not expressed a single idea different than those that got us where we currently are, yet they are favored to regain majorities in Congress??

    wtf??

    I honestly think if voters can forget this quickly there is no way to avoid the inevitable.

  17. It seems there is nothing more ‘uniting’ as being opposed. In opposition it seems you need nothing more than being against. You don’t need specifics or facts to be against. You sure don’t need ideas and can forget about thinking.