Thursday, 4/29/10, Public Square


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37 responses to “Thursday, 4/29/10, Public Square

  1. tosmarttobegop

    I want to be a upbeat and thoughtful person today….

    The problem is the more I think the less upbeat I become!

  2. indypendent

    I just took a stroll through the WE Opinion Line and Letters to the Editor section.

    The usual Republicans are being snarky and using that ‘lamestream media’ term alot.

    I swear, do Foxbots, Palinettes, Rushbots, Beckbots, Seanbots and any other bots ever think for themselves? It’s like they’re all in a mean girls club at middle school and they are so snarky.

    Maybe they all need a good trip to the woodshed and shown they are not all that and a bag of chips?

    • wicked

      I must have been strolling right behind you, and I came to the same conclusion. It didn’t take me long to get the gist of this morning’s comments and find something more interesting and entertaining to read.

      Same old, same old every day.

  3. indypendent

    toosmart – Guess my little tirade above could be seen as being downbeat but I prefer to call it upbeat because I think the majority of Americans are catching on to the Republicans and are tuning them out.

  4. I’m not sure whether they think on their own, or have opinions without being told what they should be — because all I ever see them post is criticism of anything different. Often they don’t even express any opinion and their whole post is nothing but how stupid, ill-informed… someone else is!

    I ignore those. Some don’t and then you have the backandforth snarking which never ends.

  5. I leave tomorrow before the sun comes up! I’m trying to make things around the house as easy for hubby as possible during my absence.

    This trip is for a bridal shower and I will meet my soon-to-be-daughter-in-law’s family — parents, sister, grandmother…

    • tosmarttobegop

      My wife has long said that if she was not here. She knows that as long as I have a package of hotdogs, a loaf of bread and a micro-wave I will not go hungry.

      I am a lazy cook, after mom moved in I discovered where I got it from.

      I would not go naked since right now I put a load of clothes in the washer and will hang them out when done.

      We adjusted when for so many years I worked third shift. I got independent and she got less needed for daily survival.

      • indypendent

        My husband and I did the two diffrent shifts thing also. That was good for both of us. I learned how to handle the outside stuff like learning how to drive a riding mower and fixing the small stuff and he learned how to do wash without everything coming out pink.

        It’s that sorting that will get you every time – LOL

    • I’m not worried about Griffin surviving — he will! But I like the guy and want to make ‘things’ as easy as possible for him. Plus, he’ll be taking care of the pets and they won’t be OK without a human provider! Just not something he does often… He usually doles out treats and hugs and such, doesn’t have to do the clean up and feeding…

  6. tosmarttobegop

    For now Indy, of late the Cons are saying things that are too obvious lies and it is often hard to believe with the past lies. That it is even possible to be too obvious when it comes to some believing the lies.

    I guess it depends on the topic, as I said yesterday in a post that this financial and banking thing hit where it hurt the Conservatives who thought themselves financially wise. The fact that they had health care and health insurance meant that it did not hit home that others did not.

    So the lies were accepted without question or thought, but when they saw the retirement plans going down the drain it woke them up.

    Will they stay awake is a different matter and with a new day comes lies that is more acceptable without thought or effect to them.

    • indypendent

      I guess it depends on how low their prominent Republican leaders go in coming up with more lies and more lies to try to bring down Obama.

      I really think what Republicans are waiting for is to find something on Obama that will make him vulnerable.

      In Bill Clinton’s case – it was Monica Lewinsky. And how many millions were wasted on that fiasco?

      But I don’t think they can find anything on Obama and I’m sure that is about to bust their gut.

      In the meantime, the GOP’s reputation is going further and further down the toilet. Especially, when Charlie Crist is going independent down in Florida.

      Crist is just another example of a moderate Republican being run out by the Rabid Religious Right Republican group because he is not a ‘real’ Republican.

      I suspect there will be more and more prominent moderate Republicans who might just follow Crist’s lead and give the current GOP the boot.

      Republicans are boasting about a surprise in November and they may just get one – but not the kind they are expecting. The surprise will be on them when the silent majority of the GOP which are moderate all tell their radical right fringies where to shove the elephant.

    • Excellent point, Indy!

      What’s left of Republican legislators, especially Senators, at the national level are the most radical and mostly from the South (which adds new levels of radical to the nutjobs). What Repbulican used to mean is gone, and they are so far out of it they are pushing for more purity, to follow their ideas of what ‘conservative’ means instead of taking stock and seeing how out of step they are.

      They also aren’t used to modern technology — tweets, blogs, etc. capture their moves, their excuses, their childish and stupid actions and spread them in an instant. They are in the public eye, not a place they are comfortable!

      When they saw that Democrats were going to move in the cots and keep the Senate open overnight they finally realized that would make news big time and they could no longer continue their childish obstruction of financial reform!

      • indypendent

        I noticed that too – those cots were probably the thing that gave Mitch McConnell his Waterloo.

        I had read that even before this week, several Republicans were starting to turn on their leadership and were starting to make rumblings about switching their vote if something was not done soon to stop this obstructionist game.

        There are alot of incumbents up for re-election and they are not looking forward to facing the general election (their primary is safe as long as they are rabid enough) but when it comes to winning the general election – that is another story.

        Let’s remember – the approval rating of the Republicans in Congress is very, very low.

  7. indypendent

    Did you happen to read the letter to the Editor about how someone’s hope has been revived by watching the Kansas State Republican meet and adopt their state platform?

    If not, go back and read that one. It is so heartwarming, I almost cried – from laughter.

    This person was telling how great it was to be with people who listened, debated, and then voted on amendments and finally agreed on a platform.

    WTF? Isn’t that what the US Senate Republicans and Democrat Ben Nelson were voting against just this very week – to actually bring the financial reform bill to a debate and offer amendments?

    I guess it is hunky-dory when Kansas State Republicans do it – but it is not okay when Democrats control the US Senate?

    But then I thought – no wonder they had it all so easy to pass their platform – the Kansas State Repubican Party has been hijacked by the Rabid, Radical Religious Right Republicans. And they all basically believe in the same things – their Christian God, they deserve the power, they deserve the money, etc. Because, after all, God has told them they are his favorites.

  8. tosmarttobegop

    Life if much easier when there is only one answer to every question.
    There is no need to think or reason out and everyone already knows what the answer will be for every question.

    • indypendent

      That’s true.

      But life is not that black and white. I think that is what some people’s problem is – they fail to see all the gray areas in life.

      But I question a few things Republicans try to tell me about the Founding Fathers.

      If these men really did mean for God and country to mix, then why did they not specify which God? There were certainly more religions than just Christianity in the 13 colonies.

      Or do Republicans really think there were only Christians living when our country was formed?

  9. indypendent

    LOL – you’ve got a great point!

  10. indypendent

    fnord – have a safe and fun trip to Boston.

    • Thanks, Indy! I’m traveling with my oldest daughter and it’s been too many years since the two of us had time together alone. I’m looking forward to it!

      • 6570 just returned from Boston; had a good time with fellow Colby alumnae who are there. Had a weather related delay on the way back to ICT at ORD (of course) which dampened her total experience a bit (both figuratively and literally).

        Fnord – have fun, don’t let the stress get to you, and have dessert at The Cheesecake Factory! đŸ™‚

  11. Will the leaking BP oil well be President Obama’s ‘katrina’? It isn’t a natural disaster but does have the potential for grave consequences to our southern states, the people, the economy, the environment… Will he mishandle this disaster? And what in the world can be done? Once again it may be a matter of getting American citizens to safety, reducing the loss of life and livelihood.

    • indypendent

      The Republicans would probably love to hang the ‘katrina’ label onto Obama but this oil well spill was brought on by a corporation and they should be held responsible – not Obama.

      As for the Southern States this will affect the most, aren’t all of those Red States and Republican-controlled? Where are there elected representatives to make sure their states are adequately protected, now and in the future?

      Let’s also remember – most of those Southern States are the very same ones that receive more federal dollars than they put in. So, I think these are people that already know how to use the government for what they want.

      • BP has a big problem. I understand it has asked for assistance from the U.S. military. Seems to me that the cleanup and all associated costs are the burden of the corporation. Someone in the Congress will try to assist BP in socializing the costs, though….

  12. wicked

    Did anybody see the Goldman Sachs guy try to explain to Sen. Carl Levin about the “sh!tty deal” comment in an email?

    Seriously, my Texas friend had me google the video last night because she’d only heard bits and pieces and most of them bleeped.

    Watch the video. It’s so sad I was LMAO.

    • indypendent

      I watched this buffoon and he gives buffoons a bad name!

      I also heard that he tried to say the guy that handled all the bad deals was not a crook but was ‘misguided’.

      Yeah, sure. Kinda like Al Capone was misguided about not paying his taxes and wound up at Alcatraz.

    • indypendent

      Keith Olbermann of MSNBC bleeped out the first run of the video; but, as he put it, since these words are in the Senatorial record – they need to be heard in it’s entirety.

      Let’s just say – Keith had a good time with this entire fiasco.

  13. indypendent

    Speaking of Katrina – did you all hear about Laura Bush’s book? Seems Ms Laura is defending her husband’s decision to fly over New Orleans and not go into the city due to his desire to not get in the way of any rescue efforts going on ground.

    BTW – she also thinks that GWB, herself and the rest of their group might have been poisoned at the G8 summit in Germany.

    She also talks about the car accident she had when she was a teenager. She talks about losing her faith that night and the guilt she felt for many years. But I did not hear whether she talked about the legality of accountability in that accident.

    Of course, if she had been Ted Kennedy, Republicans would still be harping about that car accident.

    • wicked

      Funny how the victim of the accident had just broken up with Laura. She knew what times he’d be at that intersection, too.

      Of course I’m not saying it was anything other than the accident she has always claimed it was.

    • wicked

      I’m curious to know if the book mentioned her choice of drug. Prozac or what? She often has that “The lights are on, but nobody’s home” look to her. Quite the opposite of an intelligent woman, and I do believe she is that.

  14. indypendent

    Have you heard the news about the General Manager of the Intrust Bank Arena resigning. He gave two weeks notice because he wants to devote more time to his family.

    • I wonder if the recent negative press generated by the financial loss incurred by KSHSAA on the 6A/5A state high school wrestling tournament had anything to do with it (yes, the Arena showed a profit).

      • indypendent

        From the gist of the comments on the WE site, I guess there are rumors flying about him personally.

        I don’t have any opinion about the guy or the arena since I don’t know him personally and I have yet to go to the arena.

        But usually when someone quits abruptly and says it is to devote more time with his family and the guy has no job lined up, it usually is suspect.

  15. indypendent

    Someone in the Congress will try to assist BP in socializing the costs, though….

    6176 – While I am not opposed to having our military help with maintaining the safety of our people, land and our resources – I do think the final tab should be tallied and charged to one BP Corporation.

    Because, after all, any self-respecting Republican Tea Bagger does not want our government taking away from one to give to another – or is that rule out the window when it comes to an oil company that makes billions in profits?

  16. Zippy

    Obama didn’t cause the oil spill, but, jeez, what horrible timing.

    I get the argument about hard decisions, but I think someone didn’t factor in this kind of “oops,” which was really inevitable. It was just a matter of time.

    A radio commentator noted that he adapts. That’s true. It will be years before those derricks become reality.

    But what now? A climate change bill I haven’t read is being stalled by Lindsey Graham.

    Winds farms off Cape Cod are a start.