Enemies or Frienemies?

This fascinationg video esamines the relationship between Obama and Hillary Clinton.  She has been a good and faithful servant for the Obana team.  She was instrumental in sending Bill Clinton to North Korea to help win the release of a couple of women detained by them.

She does not see herself staying an 8 years for Obama, should that be possible.  My hope is that she will be named as a Supreme Court Justice.  What are your thoughts on this possibility?


Filed under Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton

19 responses to “Enemies or Frienemies?

  1. PrairiePond

    From your lips to god’s ears, Iggy! I’d love to see her as a member of SCOTUS.

  2. WSClark

    Hillary would be an outstanding choice for the Supremes – very solid and likely to easily win confirmation in the Senate. As a Senator, she gained much respect on both sides of the aisle for her hard work and dedication.

    There would be the usual naysayers, but the adults would see that see is clearly qualified for the position.

  3. When you stop and really consider every role, every position she’s filled — she has been exemplary in all. She is most capable, hard working and unselfish in her service to America. She does her job well no matter the obstacles, and no matter who she deals with.

    How many people can you say that about?

    I think it’s possible that even with her skills, competencies and abilities she has led her life being reminded of ‘her place.’ She’s married to a man who filled the spotlight and shared to the degree he chose. She stayed loyal to that man, and I think loyal has to be part of any description of her. Obama won the election, she knows that, and she is loyal — if not to Obama, definitely to Americans.

    Women are held to a different standard. It shouldn’t be this way, and no woman has done more than Hillary to ensure the rights of women. But we still know that the same action performed by a man will be deemed aggressive in a positive sense, and something less positive if it was performed by a woman. The same different standard applies to men in other ways. It’s more readily accepted that a woman shows emotion, but can be seen as a weakness in a man. Our culture has made boxes that neither men nor women should be put into, but are.

    As for a SCOTUS appointment, I don’t think we should get our hopes up. If she were nominated she would be exemplary, but I don’t see it happening.

    For one thing, she’s 63 years old. That used to be the age group that was appointed to the highest court, it isn’t any longer.

    • indypendent

      I don’t think Obama is into all that age appropriateness in nominating his SCOTUS.

      That is something Bush and Republicans did by deliberate calculations. I think they assumed their party would be in power for a long, long time and wanted to make sure they had their partners in crime on the Court.

  4. indypendent

    I don’t know if that is what she really wants? I read on Huffington Post yesterday the White House came out and said that Hillary was not being considered for SCOTUS. Obama is very happy with her as Secretary of State and she has done a great job. Obama wants her to stay where she is.

    But, maybe down deep, Hillary would love to be on the Supreme Court. If for nothing else to give those Tightie-Righties a run for their money or a good pare of spiked heels up their butts.

  5. WSClark

    I think Hillary has been an excellent SOS – far better than her predecessor – but long term, a seat on the court would have a greater impact.

    It’s a bit damned if you, damned if you don’t for Obama on this issue. If she goes to the court, then he will be losing one of the most valuable members of his cabinet, one that has a very difficult job that is critical to the success of his administration. On the other hand, Hillary would be a superstar as a Supreme.

    In my mind, if Hillary wants the job, Barack should nominate her.

    • indypendent

      I agree. I think the decision should be up to Hillary.

      But if she does go to the SCOTUS, that will leave a big hole in the Secretary of State.

      Has Hillary ever said anything about not wanting to be the SOS for the entire Obama term?

      Does anyone here think that Hillary will ever run for president again?

      I’m inclined to think that all our past precedents of this way or that way works to get to the White House has been shattered into bits in the last election. Whoever thought Obama would end up being the president in 2008?

      I remember reading about the Mayan calendar and the significance of the year 2012. What I got from my research into this issue is the fact that 2012 will be the year of enlightenment. How much more enlightment could the Republicans stand to have Hillary Clinton be on the Supreme Court?

    • While I agree with you on all accounts, I fear that “No Drama” will be too timid to nominate Hillary for SCOTUS. That would start a whole new firestorm from the right.

      After all, I think the only person they hate more than Obama is Hillary. Don’t you know she is the most liberal person in the history of mankind?

  6. In the video Iggy linked to in the thread header Hillary said she didn’t want to be Secretary of State for an eight year term. She didn’t say one way or another about a four year period.

    • indypendent

      That’s why I asked that question. Hillary has not really given any time period for SOS that I’ve ever heard.

      That’s what has me thinking – maybe she does want the SCOTUS?

      Or maybe she thinks she can run for president again?

      I know, her age could be used against her if Obama is elected to a second term – but I remember alot of older men who got the president’s chair and nobody seemed to question their age.

  7. tosmarttobegop

    well it would certainly fulfill the Republicans wet dream at the confirmation hearings!
    Many were so for Hillary being the Democratic candidate for POTUS back in 2008.
    Since Obama lack the baggage to attack they had to make things up but their were files after fills on Hillary from during Bill’s administration.

    She has shown ability in the SOS role and so much focus that she would be a good judge.
    Not likely to back down in favor of the Conservatives on the bench.

    • indypendent

      Couldn’t you just see Roberts, Thomas, Alito and Scalia all foaming at the mouth at Hillary being in a black robe on the same level as their black robe?

      But, on the other hand, they might like going to the office more. Just think about the office party chatter? LOL

  8. indypendent

    Whatever Hillary decides to do will be interesting to watch.

    I always thought Bill is a master politician but I think Hillary is the brains behind that man. I think that is why they are such a good pair together – and they know it.

    Bill is now doing his charity work around the world and Hillary is doing the diplomatic work around the world.

    Because of these two people maybe the world will be a better place than they found it in spite of the bitter, sore loser Republicans that have tried to drag them down to the GOP sewer level for years?

    At least they are trying.

  9. indypendent

    For some reason, I see Hillary as the Moses in the Bible.

    Remember the story about how Moses was the leader that got their group to the crest of the Promised Land but Moses never got to step foot in it?

    Maybe Hillary is like Moses for the Women’s Movement? She is the leader that got our country ready for a woman president but never actually got to hold that honor.

    God forbid if Sarah Palin walks through that golden opportunity! If that happens, then I know there is an actual Satan in the world. LOL

  10. It would be unbelievably sad if a fake like Palin benefited from the work done by Hillary. What a disappointment it would be to have any woman who has set back women’s rights be in any position of prominence. We all deserve better than that, but most especially people like Hillary who fought the good fight.

  11. indypendent

    Maybe you’re right Paula. Obama does not need to pick a fight with the Right at the moment.

    But that has not stopped him before from calling out Rush, Glenn Beck and the rest of the Merry Men from Fox News.

    I think Obama likes to see how the Republicans wiggle and squirm when they all get caught up in their fits of fury, with spittle coming out of their mouths, smoke coming out of their ears when whatever talking points they have been spreading for the past week has been debunked by yet another videotape of the very same people saying the exact opposite of what they are trying to spin at that moment.

    You see, Republicans are not exactly 21st century, technologically savvy. I swear these people do not know what videotape is and they have had the same old fossils in power for the last 20-30 years. There are countless times caught on video of everything each one of them has said or done.

    Why do you think so many of their brainchild ideas has backfired? How many times has Michael Steele made to look foolish?