Tuesday, 4/6/10, Public Square


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29 responses to “Tuesday, 4/6/10, Public Square

  1. Good morning!

    I read a book review at NPR that I found really interesting. The book, “Lost States: True Stories of Texlahoma, Transylvania, and Other States That Never Made It” by Michael J. Trinklein tells true stories of state names that never materialized.

    — snip —

    “Almost smack in the middle of the country could have been a state called Forgottonia. Comprising 14 counties in western Illinois, Forgottonia was an idea created by a group of disgruntled citizens who felt, well, forgotten. In the early 1970s, the would-be state’s residents proposed an interstate that would run from Chicago to Kansas City, but they were rebuffed and so decided to try to split off.

    Other citizens who have felt neglected by their state governments have followed the urge to create their own. In the early 20th century, residents of northern Texas wanted more roads to drive their new Ford Model T’s, so the story goes, so they teamed up with western Oklahomans to suggest a state called Texlahoma, another “failed state.”

    At this point, if the addition of a 51st state to the United States of America seems far-fetched, consider that Barack Obama is the first American president not to have seen a new state added in his lifetime.”

    With all this talk of state’s rights and hate of federal government, maybe we will see states change. Take at look at this article, there are some maps showing those states that never were.

  2. Profile: Who are Wikileaks?

    Whistle-blowing website Wikileaks has released a video which it claims shows the killing of civilians by the US military in Baghdad in 2007.

    It is the latest in a long list of “leaks” published by the secretive site, which has established a reputation for publishing sensitive material from governments and other high-profile organisations.

    In October 2009, for example, it posted a list of names and addresses of people it claimed belonged to the British National Party (BNP). The BNP said the list was “malicious forgery”.

    During the 2008 US elections, it published screenshots of the e-mail inbox, pictures and address book of vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin.

    Continues —


  3. indypendent

    Just saw on Huffington Post about Jon Kyl threatening a Republican filibuster against the next Obama Supreme Court nominee.

    I swear, Republicans threaten filibusters as often as I change my underwear.

    • indypendent

      And my underwear gets changed daily – LOL.

      Don’t you think these people would get a clue and figure out the more they threaten, scream, rant, rave, whine, cry and throw their baby tantrums that the majority of Americans just want to kick their butts.

      They’re like the boy that cried wolf – pretty soon, nobody will even give them the time of day.

  4. It’s only the person who does something who risks the blame for failure. When you do nothing you can’t be blamed. Obviously you can’t be given the credit either. These fools are willing to never get any credit just to avoid potential blame. The people who elect them are just as cowardly, just as backwards, and as incapable of thinking and finding solutions. No pain, no gain.

  5. He seems to be on a roll…

    RNC Chairman Michael Steele may have tried to sweep away one sex-club scandal on Monday by shooing out his chief of staff; however, he may have ushered in another one last month when he hired Neil Alpert, his “special assistant for finance” whose previous employer, the Major League Baseball PAC, accused him of improperly spending PAC money at nightclubs. The MLB PAC says Alpert, who was its chairman, used the PAC debit card at Washington’s Dream Night Club, as well as other places like CVS, Chick-fil-A, and the Old Ebbitt Grill. The PAC filed a complaint against Alpert with the Washington Office of Campaign Finance in 2005.


    • indypendent

      Birds of a feather flock together?

      I read on Huffington Post where Newt Gingrich is calling on Republicans to stop focusing on Michael Steele and start focusing on the Democrats.

      Is that something like the wizard behind the curtains in the Wizard of Oz movie?

      • tosmarttobegop

        Good analogy, you can not remove the splinter from the Democratic eye as long as you are focused on the pillar in your own!

    • I can’t remember where I read it, and of course can’t find it again now…

      But it was about a small group, including Rove, who were raising funds, making decisions and strategy for mid-term elections. No where did it say RNC Chairman Michael Steele was part of this group! In fact, it sounded like they’re ignoring their ‘token black,’ and doing the job he isn’t behind his back.

      I think Gingrich may be part of this group and him asking the focus to change makes sense. They would much prefer to be in a position where they point fingers (and of course they don’t understand that when you point, four point back at you).

  6. indypendent

    Trying to separate sex scandals and Republicans is like separating sand from the beach.

    It’s just not gonna happen folks.

  7. indypendent

    Is anyone following the tragic news of the mining accident in West Virginia? There are 25 dead and 4 missing. Huffington Post is reporting this mine site was hit with 57 safety violations last month. It is also being reported the company has been fighting or simply refusing the pay past fines for safety violations.

    Let me see – as I recall – it is the Republicans who say all unions are bad and that the evil government and all their ‘agencies’ are the problem.

    But, wait, what responsibility does this company have when there are blatant safety violations and then 25 miners are killed and 4 missing? Do we simply say – well, too bad – so sad?

    Our country should be better than this.

    • INDIVIDUAL responsibility, Indy. That is what conservatives preach.

      This darling little philosophy conveniently forgives any corporation abuses by trumping them with the “they should have known the risks of working in a mine” mentality.

      It’s all about the individual. Groups are off the hook as any perceived responsibility that they might have is always trumped by the responsibility of the individual. Genius in its stupidity, isn’t it? But ever so helpful to robber barons, ruling elite and greedy corporate bast@^ds.

    • And totally defeating as a political party. If it’s all about individuals, no wonder they have NO ideas or solutions. They don’t even exist. Self defeating, don’t you think?

  8. tosmarttobegop

    Steel pulling the race card reminded me of something that was happening in High School.
    I am sure you have seen the scene, the teacher is not in the class room yet and everyone is talking up a storm.

    But once the teacher enters the room everyone would quit talking and face forward.

    But in one class that was not the case, all but a small group of Black students would quit talking.
    They on the other hand would continue talking in a loud manner.

    When the teacher would finally call them to order and tell them they needed to quit talking so class could start. They would shout that the only reason she was calling them out was because they were Black!

    Everyday this would happen that they would pull the race card and it worked on the teacher.
    She would blush and try to explain that she was not being racist.

    One day I was called down for talking and said that she was only doing it because I rode a motor cycle!
    The small group of Blacks laughed and said I had caught on to the game.

    I later explained that the game was disrespecting the struggle of those who had won after hundreds of years the civil rights of their people. They cursed at me and said I had not earn the same rights as they had.
    Later though they did admit that I was right and it stopped.

    Steel is in trouble because of the foolish stuff he has done and the lack of control he has over the RNC.

    • indypendent

      I have found those who yell ‘racism’ the loudest are usually the ones who has sacrificed the least for any cause.

      These are just the people with loud mouths and a bully’s mentality.

  9. tosmarttobegop

    It had to be a point that many can not understand and hard to accept.
    A mother lost her son and two of her grandsons in the mine explosion.
    Her other grandson lived and walked out of the mine, she hugged him.
    Than said she did not ever want him to go back into a mine!

    He told her, Grandma it is who I am and what I do.

    Such pride in being a miner considering what had happened that he even with losing his dad and brothers.
    Will continue to do the job, in a sense don’t you wish that you felt that way about what you do for a living?

    • indypendent

      Many men and women have and will continue to perform dangerous jobs and kudos to them – because I could never be that brave.

      But when a corporation blatantly disregards safety violations, that just makes for these deaths the real tragedy. Maybe this tragedy could have been prevented – maybe not.

      But there will forever be those nagging questions due to their previous history of ignoring or fighting the ‘evil government’ over safety regulations.

      • indypendent

        Life is already full of danger and if we have the technology to make it safer, then why don’t we?

        I read somewhere this company had been fined for some ventilation problem. Rather than fix the problem, the ventilation system was never replaced.

        If this is true, is this really what we want in our workplaces?

  10. indypendent

    Quick – somebody check if Hell has frozen over…….LOL

    Tom Coburn Defends Nancy Pelosi, Criticizes Fox News
    First Posted: 04- 6-10 11:05 AM | Updated: 04- 6-10 11:08 AM

    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has not been getting a lot of praise from Republicans lately, especially after she helped shepherd the passage of health care reform bill.

    But in a recent town hall meeting Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) offered some kind words for her, saying “she’s a nice lady.” Coburn added that although he and the Speaker differ on policy issues, she’s a “good person.”

    Perhaps even more stunning than Coburn’s conciliatory words for Pelosi was his criticism of Fox News.

    “What we have to have is make sure we have a debate in this country so that you can see what’s going on and make a determination yourself,” he said, adding: “So don’t catch yourself being biased by Fox News that somebody is no good. The people in Washington are good. They just don’t know what they don’t know.”

    Coburn made his remarks at a town hall meeting in Oklahoma. They were recorded by radio station KGOU in Norman, Okla.

    • WOW! It’s about time someone with an “R” beside their name behaved as an adult. Glad Senator Coburn spoke up!

      • indypendent

        I guess Tommy found some big boy pants to wear and plans to participate at the adults table?

      • indypendent

        The article did not say what the crowd’s reaction was, did it? And I’ve not heard Rush’s take on it either.

        Maybe they plan to just let it lay there. Maybe God did get through on one of those C-Street direct lines and told Tom to start telling the truth.

      • tosmarttobegop

        First I am sorry that I am not attending the little meet up today (Wednesday) I thought today was going to be more full and had already accepted WS invite for breakfast from the BTSNBN with Freebird.

        Then was needing to get back home, but so much for the best laid plans of mice and men!
        So I might stick around to go to this town hall, it is almost depending on which day it is whether I like Coburn or not. And I want to hear what Moran has to say though he may not like what I might say.

  11. indypendent

    Along the lines of having technology to make the world safer, I saw someone write into the Wichita Eagle about drunk driving. This person asked why every car is not required to be equipped with the automatic system of the engine not being able to be started if somebody’s blood alcohol level is too high.

    Now, as I see it, maybe not every car needs to be equipped with this safety feature – but after your first DUI conviction, then perhaps this safety feature needs to be mandated for any car that person drives for a period of 1 or 2 years? After the 2nd DUI conviction, after a longer stint in jail – this person is mandated for life to have this safety feature in their car.

    I know a law like this would be a terrible monster to monitor but if it could save one innocent life, wouldn’t it be worth it?

  12. indypendent

    The new Republican Virginia Governor has declared April to be ‘Confederate History Month’.

    I guess this was something that has been done before but in the last 8 years, two Democratic governors – Mark Warner and Tim Kaine – refused to issue such a declaration citing they did not think it was a good idea and it was not something that could bridge the differences between blacks and whites.

    So, this new Republican governor (of which they have already stated he is a rising star in the GOP) knows where his bread is buttered – huh? Let’s not forget – he is one of the darlings of the Tea Party.

  13. indypendent

    I read MSNBC suspended David Schuster indefinitely. It was reported in Huffington Post blog that Schuster filmed a pilot for CNN – so I don’t know if that is the reason for suspension or David has told another Republican/Fox News junkie where to stuff something.

    David has been known to come out with the truth from time to time when dealing with Republicans who – shall we say – bend the truth.

    It will be interesting to see what develops. I used to watch more of MSNBC than I do currently. Their daytime lineup leaves alot to be desired. I just cannot stand their Morning Joe with Joe Scarborough and that Mika. Then Dylan Ratigan comes on and I lose my breakfast.

    • tosmarttobegop

      David and for that matter Lawrence at time are the hard ones for me to take.

      Too often it seems simply for both that if it is a Republican saying it then it is always wrong.
      I have often said that the Right make it too easy for the Left to have valid faults and points against them.
      Really it is almost as if the Left could be on vacation and the Right is doing all the work to damn them.

      LOL when it came to David he is like TB having his own show on MSNBC.