Sunday, 4/4/10, Public Square

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  1. The history lesson

    In July, 1798, Congress passed, and President John Adams signed into law “An Act for the Relief of Sick and Disabled Seamen,” authorizing the creation of a marine hospital service, and mandating privately employed sailors to purchase healthcare insurance.

    This legislation also created America’s first payroll tax, as a ship’s owner was required to deduct 20 cents from each sailor’s monthly pay and forward those receipts to the service, which in turn provided injured sailors hospital care. Failure to pay or account properly was discouraged by requiring a law violating owner or ship’s captain to pay a 100 dollar fine.

    This historical fact demolishes claims of “unprecedented” and “The Constitution nowhere authorizes the United States to mandate, either directly or under threat of penalty…”

    Perhaps these somewhat incompetent attorneys general might wish to amend their lawsuits to conform to the 1798 precedent, and demand that the mandate and fines be linked to implementing a federal single payer healthcare insurance plan.

    The other option is to name Presidents John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison et al. in the lawsuits. However, it might be difficult to convince a judge, or the public, that those men didn’t know the limits of the Constitution.

    Because the attorneys general research is obviously lacking a comprehensive review of history and the Constitution, I’m providing a copy of the 5th Congress’ 1798 legislation:

    http://open.salon.com/blog/paul_j_orourke/2010/03/24/news_pres_signs_h-care_insurance_mandate-212_years_ago

    • indypendent

      If these Tea Partiers were to do research into many of these Founding Fathers’ beliefs – they would soon realize that what the thinly-veiled Republican Tea Party is doing is nothing even comparable to what the Founding Fathers fought for.

      But doing independent research would require they turn off that 3-hour segment of Rush and the constant drumbeat of the other notorious Fox News ‘journalists’.

  2. Did you ever wonder where the Easter Bunnies learn the ins an outs of their jobs? No need to wonder further!

    College Overrun by Rabbits

    Long Beach City College has a Rabbit Population Management Task Force. Why? To manage the rabbit population, of course. Just south of Los Angeles, hundreds of bunnies lounge in the shade and hop around the college campus fighting turf wars, burrowing holes in the lawns, and eating up thousands of dollars worth of landscaping. The college began a program to capture the rabbits and put them up for adoption, send them to sanctuaries or neuter and re-release them on campus. The school blames Easter—which causes families to buy rabbits as novelty pets, but abandon them once they realize taking care of them is too much work.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303395904575158581521399358.html

  3. indypendent

    I saw on Rachel Maddow this past week where the Attorney General in Georgia was asked by that governor to look into filing a lawsuit against the federal healthcare reform bill on behalf of the State of Georgia.

    This Attorney General did just as asked and reported back to the governor that no lawsuit was warranted and their was no need to waste the taxpayers money on a lawsuit without legal merit.

    This attorney General is now being threatend with impeachment!

    For what? Doing his job? He was asked to look into it and he did just that. Just because he saw no legal merit to their case, was that his fault?

    But then I’m sure the Georgians calling for this guy’s impeachment are the first ones to call Obama a tyrant and – I love this one – the Chicago Bully.

    Seems to me there is bunch of bullies in Georgia also.

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again – you just cannot fix stupid!

  4. tosmarttobegop

    Got back about an hour ago from a visit with in-laws it was great and to my surprise was able to discuss Politics and the Health reform bill. These were the in-laws (the sister-in-law that I got in an argument with over Bush). Made some inroads and at least got them both to think for them selves over simply drinking the kool-aid.

    LOL I told my wife if we won the Lottery I wanted to move back to that town.
    Would not if it was to find work there, small town in a Rural area not jobs within forty miles one way.
    Though my sister-in-law knew of many places in Hutchinson that either is hiring or will be at a good wage.

    Man oh man surrounded by small kids of the small kids I watched growing up with my own.
    All girls except for one boy and I had to watch every girl showing me her skipping rope skills!
    Then watch my wife trying to do something she had not tried in over twenty years!

    One niece had inherited her grandparents old farm house after several years of being abandoned.
    A lot of hard work already done and far more to do, over grown and someone had broken in to the house and two garages. Over twenty thousands in loses and who ever did it seem to know what they were going to steal as nothing was ransacked.

    LOL I think I may have gotten my brother-in-law hooked on cable news!

  5. tosmarttobegop

    I think the moment I liked most was when I pointed to Obama is a Moslem who attended a Assembly of God church for 20 years. Was he a under cover spy for the Moslems?

    The silence was absolute, then finally the “I never thought about that!”.

    everything after that was listen to and thought about before speaking on it.

    • WTG!

      People looking for information, separating out the nonsense and hooking up with facts. It will be a better world when more are able to do that.

      And YOU helped! 😉

  6. indypendent

    I was at a bridal shower yesterday in one of the local country club’s guest houses and one of the guests next to me said something about Obamacare. I quietly said – I just hope it helps more than it hurts. There are parts of the bill I like and there are parts I don’t like but, our current health care system certainly is not working, so something needs to be done.

    I was halfway expecting an argument from an assumed Republican country-club well-to-do woman, but amazingly she agreed with me that the current system is not working.

    I wonder if it is possible that the majority of Americans are not true blue or true red and are indeed various shades of purple?