Wednesday, 3/17/10, Public Square

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31 responses to “Wednesday, 3/17/10, Public Square

  1. fnord

    May you have warm words on a cold evening, a full moon on a dark night, and the road downhill all the way to your door.

  2. Not much luck happening around Ireland at the moment.A happy St.Paddy’s day to all.

    • fnord

      Stopping to think about the phrase, “The luck of the Irish,” does put it into perspective, doesn’t it!?

      I appreciate the happy st. paddy’s day wish! A happy day to you, Mule taker!

      • Zippy

        Yeah, no kidding. Yet, strangely, so many Irish came to this country that a lot of them made good, despite enduring the usual immigrant contempt and “paddy wagons.” I was suprised to hear a factoid that it the most common ethnic heritage in the US today.

        Incidently, part of my own very mixed ancestry traces back to Cork, Ireland. I found the Wikipedia description amusing and somehow fitting:

        Cork has a reputation for rebelliousness dating back to the town’s support of the English Pretender Perkin Warbeck in 1491 following the Wars of the Roses. As a result, County Cork has earned the nickname of “the Rebel County”, while Corkonians often refer to the city as the “real capital of Ireland”, and themselves as the “Rebels”.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cork_%28city%29

        I bet a few of you have some Irish in ye, too!

      • Zippy

        Muletaker inspired me to look at some of the Irish headlines. Just skimming, I saw things like “economic downturn,” “brain drain” and “bank bailouts.”

        I didn’t want to read any more.

    • I looked around the Internet briefly and it seems that the concensus is that the phrase “Luck of the Irish” is either ironic, or means bad luck. So, this Irish American learned something new today–thanks Mule taker!

      Also, I found a short but humorous take on the subject at (of all places) CBN –the Christian Broadcast Network!! Probably the parts I found amusing weren’t meant to be though. 😉

      http://www.cbn.com/spirituallife/Devotions/Butler_Irish.aspx

  3. fnord

    Cobh, just outside Cork, is the port where most immigrants left Ireland. There is a museum there and you can look up your ancestor’s records. Been there! There are also a treasure trove of wonderful pubs — spent most of our time in those instead of the museum.

    I am mongrel — little Irish, little black Dutch, little English, little American Indian… Griffin is Irish from the tips of his pointy shoes to the tips of his pointy ears 😉 . I actually think he is the end of the rainbow, at least he is as valuable as a pot of gold to me!

  4. Zippy

    P.S. Drinking in Ireland? You gotta be kidding!

    We all know the Irish don’t drink! 🙂

  5. Zippy

    So long as we’re talking about leprechauns 🙂 , I noticed Dennis Kucinich signed off on the healthcare bill after a conversation with the president.

    Since he’s been known to dig in on a position for principle, I am curious as to what Obama said to him.

    http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/03/17/health.care.undecided/

  6. WSClark

    This and $0.50 will get you a cup of coffee – our dear friend Reggie has been banned from WEBlog.

    In other important news today, the chicken crossed the road……..

    • Zippy

      I also heard someone in Cleveland ate an omelet.

      • WSClark

        I had a ham and cheese omelet this morning at Don’s with my friend Freebird. He’s really a pretty nice guy – much more moderate than he comes across at times on WE.

      • fnord

        I’m glad you have made a new friend! Can’t ever have too many of those. And, of course he is more than a blog shows, we all are!

      • For what it is worth, I am having a hard time seeing how hanging out at the WE Blog can be a good idea for a recovering alcoholic.

        Reggie’s explanation for why he got banned was interesting too. CapnA disappeared from thg blog at about the same time as Reg. I can’t help but wonder if those two events are connected?

    • Just out of curiousity, I wonder what sort of actions or activities could possibly get you banned from a blog?

      • He outted a posters real name on the blog without their permission. He has done stuff like posted photos of posters on that blog. So, I guess I am perplexed by why they decided to take action against him, when his actions were just a continuation of what he has been doing for literally years. The person who was banned is a very serious troll – in the worst meaning of that word. He even has admitted such before.

  7. A short tour down the history of comedy recordings – this installment from Radio Dinner by the National Lampoon. This song was supposedly sang by Paul McCartney:

    Give Ireland back to the Irish,
    Give Lapland back to the Laps,
    Give China back to the Chinese,
    And give Yoko back to the Japs…

    McCartney really did write and sing a song called “Give Ireland back to the Irish” – early in his non-Beatle career – the rest was obviously made up.

  8. tosmarttobegop

    A true story that is also a example of what is wrong with Washington D.C.

    One of the thing that reaffirmed the suspicion that Saddam was doing something he was not suppose to was.
    Saddam’s Government was acquiring things through the black market that they could have through the open market.

    Things there was no need to go through the illegal trade to get.
    So he must be doing some that he did not want anyone to know he was doing.

    It was not until after the invasion that it became clear as to why they would go through the black market for these things.

    It was the only way they knew how to do things, the system was a series of kick-backs.
    Saddam sons would get a kick-back, their friends would get a kick-back the neighbor down the street would get a kick-back.

    They just could not figure out how everyone could get a kick-back by going through the open market?
    Their entire system was middle men and Kick-back all a long the way.

    Washington and both parties has the same problem, even if it is something that neither party would disagree with.

    They just have been doing things the same way for so long they just do not know how to do it any other way.

    Is there a problem with the way that health care is being paid for? Yes.

    Are there those who are denied health care or suffer from the cutting of costs to make more profit? Yes.

    Is there already enough money being spent to cover and provide health care for every U.S. citizen? Yes.

    Would by rearranging the system, cutting waste and making a sensible system that does cover everyone with good assurance of health care take more money? No.

    It would take a combining of both ideologies to make it work as it should.
    I am going to be insulting but I did predict it would come to that.

    It is the Conservative mindset and not the Liberal mindset that will lead to rationing of health care.
    Killing Granny make more sense to a Conservative to cut cost and not waste money on a non-productive citizen.

    The other hand a liberal would want granny to have a new puppy by her bed after receiving life saving care to keep her alive one more day.

    The real answer is in the middle of those two mindsets.

  9. fnord

    I think the Republicans greatest fear is that President Obama and the Democratic majorities will accomplish health-care reform. What else are we to believe when they’ve worked so hard to simply defeat it? Not to change it, improve it, make it more efficient or less costly — just to defeat it, period.

    When they make their oft-repeated talking point statements, like, “We can’t afford this,” it’s obvious the truth is the Republican Party can’t afford for Democrats to meet with success in legislating health-care reform. They are well aware this is the first and hardest step.

    Their worst fear is being realized and they are powerless.

    • tosmarttobegop

      Nail on the head!

    • David B

      I have to agree that the Rs are more opposed to a victory for the Democrats than they are to healthcare reform. They know damn well the current system is a car-wreck.

  10. tosmarttobegop

    Some times I like freebird post and other they are too ridge for me.
    It is kind of interesting the differences between how someone is in person compare to their posts.
    Other then for Paul I had not found anyone that was as unreasonable as their posts some times are.
    Never met Reg, Anti or JJ, most times I am not sure I would want to.

    So much of the partisan mud fest takes over and for some it is an alter ego while others they get so caught up they say thing that do not believe in real life.

    Here is something I think will blow your mind. There have been some new names here I suspected were the alter ego of the hard core Cons coming out.

    • fnord

      When bloggers follow the rules, and behave like adults we should welcome differing perspectives. Isn’t that beneficial to gaining understanding? I don’t know anyone here who doesn’t want to keep an open mind and double check their opinions. It’s when you support your opinion that you’re most likely to find out whether it’s strong enough to stand up to scrutiny. Think about the many times when we hear complaints with nothing to back them up. Kinda proves they lack any validity!

    • The current banning is the third one for ole Reg. Brownlee had given up trying to successfully ban him because he figured Reg could work his way around it somehow. They look to be more serious this time. I can’t see where his current offense was any worse than his many others before.

  11. David B

    I met my ex on a St Patrick’s Day. Does that suggest I go out tonight, or hunker down and hide????

  12. Thunderchild

    “Regular” has not been banned from the We Blog and continues to post there under various nics.

    And unless and until it is proven otherwise?

    “Freebird” would be one of them.

  13. wicked

    Paranoia strikes again?

    What an imagination you have, TC. I’ve never really cared who was pretending to be whom or even if they were. In the grand scheme of things, it makes no difference who said it, it’s been said, and it’s usually something derogatory in nature.

    You see, in my old, tottering dotage, I’ve decided I don’t care all that much what people think. Everyone has an opinion, and it often isn’t even close to the truth.

    They think we left because we were scared? That’s a crock, and they can believe if they want to. It doesn’t make me feel less as a person. In fact, it makes me giggle. I don’t know about the rest of you, but I left because it had become a group of junior high boys, trying to outdo each other with outrages. Did they believe everything they said? Very doubtful.

    And, iggy, if you should read this, a belated happy b-day! I started counting backwards on my 40th, which makes me…very young. 🙂 Now if my body only believed that, I’d be good to go.

    Back to the make-believe world…