Where were the women?

“Lots of men in the room, nothing accomplished.  Where were the women at the Health-Care Summit? Dan Rather on the need to get more females in positions of power in America and around the world.

To be sure, some were in the room, most notably Kathleen Sebelius, secretary of Health and Human Services, and Nancy Pelosi, the first woman Speaker of the House. The Republicans had one female attendee, Rep. Marsha Blackburn from Tennessee, and the Democrats had three others: Nancy-Ann DeParle, the White House health-care adviser, Sen. Patty Murray of Washington, and New York Rep. Louise Slaughter. That’s it. Six women out of 42 attendees on a piece of legislation that deals with health care, an issue that affects all Americans.

If you were to rank countries by the percentage of women in their national legislatures, the U.S. would be somewhere around 75th, on par with places like Turkmenistan and Albania.”

What difference do you think women might make?


Filed under Healthcare, Progressive Ideals, Woman Power

21 responses to “Where were the women?

  1. fnord

    There are only 17 female Senators out of 100. The question should be why isn’t the nations largest demographic group adequately represented in Congress.

  2. tosmarttobegop

    For one thing the subject that became a stumbling block and directly effects women was not addressed.
    No one addressed the issue of choice and I think may still be the stumbling block for the upcoming vote in the Congress.

    No one there addressed how women are charged more and in a sense not covered as well as men.

  3. fnord


    Before it became legal no one argued about it, no one used it for political advantage. Those who could afford the cost went to their doctor’s office or the hospital and had the procedure (usually called a DNC) performed, and those who couldn’t afford the cost went to those dark alleys and had the procedure performed. Sometimes those back alley procedures killed the pregnant woman too.

    No fewer abortions were performed before they became legal. Those who think making them illegal again will reduce the numbers or stop them are deluded.

    • wicked

      It’s D & C. Stands for dilation & curettage.

      Dilation and curettage (D&C) is a procedure in which the cervix of the uterus is expanded (dilated) so that the uterine lining (endometrium) can be removed with a spoon-shaped instrument called a curet or curette. The procedure is performed for a variety of reasons. Most commonly, this surgery is done in order to help determine the cause of abnormal uterine bleeding. It can also be done to help determine the degree of abnormality of the endometrium in cases of cancer or pre-cancerous cells that are detected by an in-office biopsy. D&C is also sometimes necessary to remove tissue after a miscarriage.

      And, yes, prior to abortion being legal, it was sometimes used to end a pregnancy.

      • fnord

        Thanks, wicked! I’d never seen it in print, only heard it spoken.

        Kinda like my kids who were used to having ‘andy’ applied to scrapes and scratches. You and I know it as A & D ointment.

  4. fnord

    It was so easy for the anti-abortion folks to ignore it when it was illegal. Kinda like they easily ignore those blastocysts that are destroyed in the incinerator out back of the fertility clinics and saved from research. How stupid can they get? How hypocritical can they be?

    • tosmarttobegop

      Because for the most part it was kept secret and was shameful to admit a woman had one.

      Most being unmarried and not suppose to be having sex.

      LOL I thought of something this morning that is kind of sort of in line with that.

      Men could walk around with their dinkee hanging out and baying at the moon and that was OK.

      A woman who wanted sex was looked down on and considered less respectable.

      Women were not allowed to be human beings. You all had to be saints and pure.

  5. fnord

    Before abortion became legal no one was stupid enough, no one was a big enough hypocrite to shoot a doctor in the head in his church.

    • wicked

      Because most people refused to believe it was done. It wasn’t discussed. They also didn’t know which doctors were doing them.

      Making abortion legal has a downside. Now they know which doctors to shoot in the head in their churches.

  6. fnord

    You know how often we ask who would want to run for political office? Does the answer tell us why few women are members of Congress?

  7. wicked

    Where are the women?

    They aren’t being elected…because they’re women. Think about it. Conservatives, especially those connected to the Religious Right, believe a woman’s place it in the home, not in the House…or Senate. Even when a woman runs in the Republican party, she’ll usually lose, because those men with little R’s beside their name won’t vote for them, and the women they control won’t either.

  8. tosmarttobegop

    One of the most shocking things my mother said when President Obama and Hillary Clinton were still in the running. She said she did not think she could vote for a woman!

    And it would be hard enough to vote for a Black man but she did vote for Obama.

    Ladies sometimes you can be your worst enemy, far harder on another woman then you can be on a man.

  9. indypendent

    Abortion is such a political wedge issue because it is now usually performed in a free standing clinic – whereas in the days before Roe v Wade, most hospitals performed abortions. But, as most of you have already noted, nobody knew which doctor or which hospital because it was not a separate entity as it is today.

    And that political wedge issue has served both the Democrats and Republicans quite well for many years. Republicans must not really care about stopping abortions because I noticed not one Republican in their total control of Congress and White House in 6 of Bush years did not even attempt to overturn Roe v Wade.

    And yet the Republicans keep voting the same old farts in year after year.

    What I want to see is what Sen. Scott Brown of Massachusetts will choose to do when confronted with the abortion issue. He has voted pro-choice before and he only got in by the Independent voters rejecting his opponent. So, if he votes pro-choice, will that upset the apple cart of his honeymoon dance with these Republican Conservatives who think he is their Messiah?

    • wicked

      Brown is definitely one to watch. I added myself as a “fan” on FB, so I’m watching closely. VERY closely. Not that I’m a fan, but it could get (as Arte Johnson used to say) verrrrrrrry interesting.

  10. fnord

    “Ladies sometimes you can be your worst enemy, far harder on another woman then you can be on a man.”

    That, tstb, is so true! Wish it weren’t so, but it is!

    That said, in the south and in the backwards attitudes of those who call themselves “conservative” it is even more pronounced. My sister (who lives in Charlotte) said she and her hubby work with people who said they couldn’t vote last presidential election — one ticket was a black man and the other ticket had a woman on it — they couldn’t vote for either.

    • indypendent

      I worked with a woman who said she was impressed by John Kerry in the debate but her husband told her that it was a law that a wife has to vote the same way as her husband.

      I wonder if this poor, pathetic little creature actually believed her husband?

      I don’t know if she thought this was a funny joke. But then again, Republican women tend to like being told what to do by their men.

      • wicked

        My ex–a Republican–always expected me to vote as he did. When he learned that I didn’t, he would complain that my vote canceled out his…even though I voted earlier in the day than he did.

        To this day, I think he believes I voted for Ross Perot. (I was told not to vote for Clinton.)

      • tosmarttobegop

        The biggest Political argument my wife and I got into was kind of that subject.

        I voted Kerry and she voted G.W. Bush.

  11. tosmarttobegop

    ” I just always assumed you was as smart as I am!”.

    OHHHH that almost got a thrown book beside my head…. Kidding.

    • tosmarttobegop

      though it did get that heated…

      • wicked

        Now you know why I told him I voted for Ross Perot. 🙂 Although he wouldn’t have thrown anything at me. He wasn’t violent, just passive agressive.