Tuesday, 1/5/10, Public Square


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21 responses to “Tuesday, 1/5/10, Public Square

  1. Good morning Prairie Pops. My once every four week civic duty has rolled ’round again. I’ll ‘read’ you this evening. Have a great day, stay warm, the turtlenecks sound like a good idea.

  2. lilacluvr

    Turtlenecks or not, it is a cold day. But you know this just proves there is no such thing as global warming (just thought I’d throw that one in there to see if you’re all paying attention).

    Did anyone read or hear about the majority of the staff of Parker Griffith from Alabama resigned all at once yesterday! His staff decided to wait until after the holidays so that they could all turn in their resignations at once – to make a statement.

    This guy is the Democrat that recently announced he is changing to Republican.


    • The cynic in me wonders if those people just thought they were jumping from a sinking ship instead of that they had some sort of moral dilemma. Also, why the choreography? What point were they trying to make and to whom?

      • lilacluvr

        I think they were all trying to save their own skins (it’s been reported this Griffith is not liked by either side of the aisle) and now that he has changed his brand – they simply wanted to make a statement and embarrass him.

        I have been in a supervisory role previously but I have never had anyone resign in protest because of me. I realize not all bosses are liked (nor is there any expectation that they should be), but there should be some level of respect.

        But, this is Washington DC and that bunch is a different kettle of fish.

  3. Thunderchild

    I brought this admittedly personal story to the WE Blog but feel it needs air here as well.

    Many readers here will remember that my then 11 year old son was recruited into a middle school program called “leadership”. The fact that it goes by “leadership” when it is actually the Junior ROTC, a military recruitment program is open for opinion. The fact that my son was recruited into the program without my knowledge or consent was to my thinking unacceptable.

    Well. it has happened again. My son reports that a friend “recommended” him to the JROTC and they signed him up. I was not notified or consulted. Of course, at this age, the recommendation of a friend and the acceptance is being seen by my son as some sort of honor.

    I see it rather differently. As I reported on the other blog, a quick search finds that these recruiting abuses are widespread and the stories very similar to my own.

    Offered only for information sake without comment other than implied about the JROTC.

    • lilacluvr

      I don’t understand how a friend can sign up your son for anything – let alone JROTC.

      But nothing surprises me anymore.

      My son started getting phone calls from every branch of the military from the time he was 17 yrs old. Each and every time my son would tell the recruiter that he was a diabetic on insulin and then my son asked why he was being called.

      The response was always the same – your name was on my list (and that list came from school?).

      Each time a recruiter would call (and these phone calls came every month), my son would simply say – I am still diabetic on insulin – and the same recruiter would say – I know, but I have to call.


      Our tax dollars at work or is it just stupidity abounds?

      • Thanks for this information as well. I will be sure to screen all calls for my son when he is in high school. And I won’t be half as nice or respectful about it as you and your son were.

        As a matter of fact, I am going to have a conversation about this with my son this afternoon to let him know what to look for himself.

    • I want to thank you for alerting me to this. I have a 12 year old son and over my dead body would he ever have anything to do with any sort of military organization or program. As a matter of fact, if the draft was reinstituted, we would leave the country.

      Some kids are drawn to guns and army men and war games. My son never has been and would be of little use on a battle field. I won’t have him used for cannon fodder by a government that represents neither him nor me. Let the CEOs go to war themselves.

  4. lillacluvr

    Paula – those phone calls stopped when we dropped the landline phone and we all went to cell phones.

    But the way telemarketers seem to still get cell phone numbers, I would not be surprised if recruiters had access to cell phone numbers, as well.

    My son is 29 yrs old and still a diabetic on insulin – in case any recruiter is reading this blog – LOL

  5. Zippy

    This was a creepy provision added to the No Child Left Behind Act during the Bush years. Like many creepy things from from the Bush years, it hasn’t gone away just because we’re under new management (sigh).

    No Child Unrecruited

    • That article was a real eye-opener. I remember being outraged about that language at the time, but since then there were so many other outrages that I forgot all about that one. (I believe that was by design)

      This would be why us “lefties” are so utterly disappointed in the Obama administration; so many outrages left unchanged. Gotta love MotherJones!

  6. Zippy

    P.S. Looking at the Mojo article I hadn’t read in several years, how fascinating that Rep. David Vitter was “offended” by what he considered anti-military attitudes.

    No shit.

    • lillacluvr

      If only Louisiana people were ‘offended’ by Vitter’s reported and self-admitted lack of character and show Vitter the one-way door to obscurity.

      But they won’t – the last article I read stated Vitter is highly favored to win re-election.


  7. My son had a good friend of his try to talk him into joining his school’s ROTC program. Luckily for me, my son is so horribly lazy that the whole ROTC thing sounded like a huge pain in the butt to him.

    One of my favorite stories from my son: the friend who tried to talk him into joining the ROTC program is the class president and makes straight A’s in school. While I told my son that I was glad he declined the ROTC thing, he could copy his friend in some ways. His reply was “Dad, he has to be good, he’s an illegal.” Which was news to me.

    • lillacluvr

      Illegal? Does the ROTC or military even admit illegals? I am not trying to be sarcastic here – I am really wondering.

      Does anyone know?

  8. The military does. If they get killed, they make them citizens posthumously. They should make their whole families citizens, if you ask me.

    I assume it is the same way in JROTC.

    • I don’t think that the residency/citizenship status of a student enrolled in high school is of any concern to the JROTC instructors. The ‘class’ is an elective, and presumably open to enrollment for any student who is of a mind to so do.

      Things may have well changed in the 33 years since I was on active duty, but illegals were discharged if their status was discovered after enlistment (fraudulent enlistment). Resident aliens were and are accorded the treatment iggy describes (limited to the individual) ‘back in the day’ and I’m sure it continues to present.

      • I’m sure that they are looking the other way and/or have changed the requirements to accept just about anyone that is willing to sign on the dotted line at this point. They are so low in recruitment numbers and we have been at war for so long, they have pulled every trick in the book in order to get warm bodies on the line.

  9. Zippy


    It makes me think of the decorated Vietnam vet who repeatedly told the draft board he was gay–they shipped him off anyway, he served with distinction (as they say), and eventually became an officer.

    Twenty years or so later, they booted him out, because he was gay.

    • lillacluvr

      That’s what I was thinking also. Isn’t it a shame our military cannot seem to get its focus off their ‘perceived’ sex issue?

      So, bottom line, the military will take anyone (they are even taking felons now, as I heard it) but yet will have a hissy fit over someone being gay?

      No wonder the military thinks the biggest tank or the biggest bomb will win the war – intelligence is not their strong suit – is it?

  10. tosmarttobegop

    I still remember career night in High school, I wanted to be a Marine biologist and had already talked to a Navy recruiter. While waiting to talk to a Coast guard recruiter, suddenly the biggest hand I had even felt landed on my shoulder and I was being drugged backward!

    Finally stopping in front of the Army recruiter’s booth, then turned around.

    This had to be the biggest guy I had seen by that time! I was 6’ 2” at the time and this guy towered over me.
    He then asked me what I wanted to do with my life?

    When I said I wanted to be a Marine biologist and he cocked his “A what?”.
    When I told him he told me, “Well not too many people know this but the Army actually has more ships then the Navy! And they could use mid-shipmen for those ships.

    By this time I had moved far enough away that I figured he could not grab me and as I ran off I said
    “No thanks!”.

    LOL like my Company commander said at “great mistakes” Illinois the morning I arrived.
    After asking my company certain questions like. Did your recruiters tell you the Navy was a 9 to 5 Monday through Friday job?

    He said this about recruiters:
    “Did your recruiter kiss you on the lips when he put you on the bus to come here?
    He should have because he sure screwed ya!”